How many years would Glenn of lasted...

[McPeachy]

Based on his results at Wyoming, at the following schools...CU, Nebraska, Utah, BYU, TCU, etc., etc., etc. Point is, Wyoming fans have been ultra-patient. Wyoming fans fell in love with Joe Glenn the man, and forgot that he coaches the football team maybe.

 

[COS Cowboy]

Would Glenn have lasted 6 years if he followed Dimel or Tiller? Probably not, but the fact that he was an improvement over Koennig contributes too.

 

[McPeachy]

Good point. But...and that is a big 'ol but...there wasn't THAT much improvement. I remember Vic's record being attrocious, surely, but the team was at least "in" most of the games under Vic's tutiledge.

 

[COS Cowboy]

Oh come on now, there was a significant improvement over Vic. Vic only beat one conference opponent in 3 years. Glenn beat both BYU and CSU in his first year, (something no coach had done since Roach) and has beaten every conference opponent at least once (something Tiller and Dimel couldn't do). Vic didn't get enough wins in three years combined to go to a bowl. Glenn not only went to a bowl, he won it.

Now I'm not saying that is acceptable or where we want to be, but it is a huge improvement.

I wonder where we would be today if Glenn had kept Vic's offensive staff instead of bringin in Cockhill?

 

[Adv8RU12]

Glenn beat both BYU and CSU in his first year

Yes, with Vic recruited players. Even with the Glenn offense they still did better than Vic. But look at now. The conclusion is that Joe, in spite of his apparent charisma, can't judge who should be recruited. And it seems he can't judge who he should surround himself with as assistants. So what can he do except sing "Cowboy Joe" and be optimistic?

 

[Snowman_55]

If we are really going to compare the two coaches we need to remember that Vic did recruit some talented athletes, but he also had a problem with guys leaving the program. So while Glenn did inherit some talent, and was able to win with it, outside the starters we were pretty bare and didn't even 85 scholarship guys because Koenning had too many guys bail. Since you can only add 25 schollys a year it took Glenn a while to restock. No excuses as of right now neither of them appears to have been the right fit for the Pokes, but too suggest we were better with Vic is obsurd because at the rate he was going we would have had about 10 guys on scholarship or less by now.

 

[COS Cowboy]

Yes, with Vic recruited players. Even with the Glenn offense they still did better than Vic. But look at now. The conclusion is that Joe, in spite of his apparent charisma, can't judge who should be recruited. And it seems he can't judge who he should surround himself with as assistants. So what can he do except sing "Cowboy Joe" and be optimistic?

The difference wasn't the offense, Glenn's 2003 team scored 286 points, while Vic's 2002 team scored 288 points. The difference was the defense.

 

[Fullback41]

Yeah, Vic's defenses were horrible, which is funny because he is the D Coord at Clemson now, & when I go out to South Carolina to visit my dad I read about how they call for his head after every loss.

Vic's teams scored because they had NFL caliber QB (Wyo grown), and WRs, and O linemen, some of which are still bouncing around the league. Only, a couple of those types in the last 5 yrs, instead of together on one team.

Also, they threw a ton because they knew the D was going to give up pts on almost every drive. Vic's final yr he would have had a winning record if we could have held teams to just 30pts a game or something like that.

I guess my point is we need more talent, especially on the OL and at WR.