gopokes1399
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4/5 positions don't really matter name was. Dejuan Blair plays 5 at 6'8 and Duncan at 7' plays 4. They'll match up accordingly but they'll be the 4/5
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How long til hoops season???
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seattlecowboy
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I can tell you the starters right now. It is very easy IMO.
It will be :
PG- Gilmore
SG- Martinez
SF-Washington
PF-Nance
C- Cooke
Cooke has the highest vertical on the team and can grab the top of the backboard when he jumps. I watched the Wyoming video when Gags interviewed him and they said his vertical was higher than the machine measured. Said his hand goes over 12 feet high at the top of his jump. He is a shot blocker and a good defensive player. Shyatt loves defense so I can almost guarantee he starts at center plus he rebounds as well. I think from a defensive standpoint Wyoming's frontline with Washington, Nance and Cooke will be as tough as anyone in the league.
Adams, McManamen, Sobey and Grabau will probably be the first ones off the bench. Thats how I think it will go down anyways.
Here is Cookes interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItWlmVYAYCI
Guess we will see. I just don't see anyone else starting at the 3,4,5 positions.
It will be :
PG- Gilmore
SG- Martinez
SF-Washington
PF-Nance
C- Cooke
Cooke has the highest vertical on the team and can grab the top of the backboard when he jumps. I watched the Wyoming video when Gags interviewed him and they said his vertical was higher than the machine measured. Said his hand goes over 12 feet high at the top of his jump. He is a shot blocker and a good defensive player. Shyatt loves defense so I can almost guarantee he starts at center plus he rebounds as well. I think from a defensive standpoint Wyoming's frontline with Washington, Nance and Cooke will be as tough as anyone in the league.
Adams, McManamen, Sobey and Grabau will probably be the first ones off the bench. Thats how I think it will go down anyways.
Here is Cookes interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItWlmVYAYCI
Guess we will see. I just don't see anyone else starting at the 3,4,5 positions.
alyssa
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WYO1016 said:
Sure it is. I ran a cross country race 2 Saturdays ago. 5 1000m loops. It was very easy to see for the very few who watched.
I guess there is more confidence about the men's basketball team. I hope to see them in person when they come to play closer to where I live.
JimmyDimes
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I think he'll prove to be a better offensive threat that JayDee, but not as solid on the defensive side of the ball. I remember him playing well before his eligibility issues last year.Wyo2dal said:
Wyo2dal
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JimmyDimes said:
Ya but I'm kind of worried about that as Lusters last year he was an all around solid player outside of the charity stripe he hit when we needed it and he managed the game at a very slow and methodical pace and I think we need that. Maybe i'm wrong but I just don't see the depth being there yet for us to run and gun 70+ per game. Shyatt doesn't run that type of offense anyway, Doesn't mater I suppose still more excited about Basketball at this point.
BeaverPoke
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Wyo2dal said:
Shyatt said he wants the offense to improve a lot this year, where last year in pre season practices it was all D now it's 50/50 O and D.
If we have leonard at the 3, and martinez at the 2, that will be one of the most potent wings in the MWC. That along with the fact that our PG's will be able to contribute, and that nance is going to be a boss down low.
Oh, and the rebounds! Nance and leonard will be grabbing boards all day!
gopokes1399
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Wyo2dal said:
This
BeaverPoke
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gopokes1399 said:
Eh, if we talk it up or not, we have no control over the game, so just suck it up and join the BS!
What do you guys think our best record could be? Best accomplishment?
I think, we could hit 25 wins, MWC tourney title, and sweet16 in the big dance.
if we win the mwc tourney i definitely think that we can win a couple games in the tourney. too unreasonable?
gopokes1399
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[/quote]
Eh, if we talk it up or not, we have no control over the game, so just suck it up and join the BS!
What do you guys think our best record could be? Best accomplishment?
I think, we could hit 25 wins, MWC tourney title, and sweet16 in the big dance.
if we win the mwc tourney i definitely think that we can win a couple games in the tourney. too unreasonable?[/quote]
If those are your expectations then yes unreasonable. Before any bold predictions we must have a proven offense and front line. If that's an opinion and thought then no not unreasonable. But you can't expect us to go dancing let alone win a couple games until we can prove our frontline can get the job done and we run an offense that can score. I expect postseason basketball, to what extent? I'll tell you after the semester but I expect us to win at home, compete in conference road games and to have a very solid, well coached team. I also expect the dome to get loud again
Eh, if we talk it up or not, we have no control over the game, so just suck it up and join the BS!
What do you guys think our best record could be? Best accomplishment?
I think, we could hit 25 wins, MWC tourney title, and sweet16 in the big dance.
if we win the mwc tourney i definitely think that we can win a couple games in the tourney. too unreasonable?[/quote]
If those are your expectations then yes unreasonable. Before any bold predictions we must have a proven offense and front line. If that's an opinion and thought then no not unreasonable. But you can't expect us to go dancing let alone win a couple games until we can prove our frontline can get the job done and we run an offense that can score. I expect postseason basketball, to what extent? I'll tell you after the semester but I expect us to win at home, compete in conference road games and to have a very solid, well coached team. I also expect the dome to get loud again
BeaverPoke
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Wyo2dal said:
See Im not trying to be TOO overly kool-aidish BUT at the same time, we won 21 games last year. I see more than just a 1 game improvement from last season.
Especially if we do protect home court a little bit better (in MWC play) and DONT drop games that we should have won like at csu and at tcu.
Therefore we get a better seeding in the MWC tourney.
Ok so the only thing I'm really stretching on is predicting we win the MWC tourney. There is no way, to predict the post season in college bball, ESPECIALLY before the season. I'll admit that is literally, making the kool-aid, and pouring glasses.
But back to reality, if we repeat what we did PLUS don't drop the AFA game at home, and don't drop the game at csu then we are at 23 wins. then we go 3-3 against the big3 (SDSU, unlv, NM) instead of 1-5, we improve from 23 to 25.
Honestly I think we can get 25 wins. and go to the big dance
BeaverPoke
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I guess I didn't take into consideration our 1 CBI win. But hey that will be replaced with AT LEAST 1 mwc tourney win
It's so hard not to drink the kool-aid when it's being made, and looks SO GOOD!
It's so hard not to drink the kool-aid when it's being made, and looks SO GOOD!
NowherePoke
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BeaverPoke said:Wyo2dal said:
See Im not trying to be TOO overly kool-aidish BUT at the same time, we won 21 games last year. I see more than just a 1 game improvement from last season.
Especially if we do protect home court a little bit better (in MWC play) and DONT drop games that we should have won like at csu and at tcu.
Therefore we get a better seeding in the MWC tourney.
Ok so the only thing I'm really stretching on is predicting we win the MWC tourney. There is no way, to predict the post season in college bball, ESPECIALLY before the season. I'll admit that is literally, making the kool-aid, and pouring glasses.
But back to reality, if we repeat what we did PLUS don't drop the AFA game at home, and don't drop the game at csu then we are at 23 wins. then we go 3-3 against the big3 (SDSU, unlv, NM) instead of 1-5, we improve from 23 to 25.
Honestly I think we can get 25 wins. and go to the big dance
I think expectations are way out of hand. Not necessarily a horrible thing (it's great to have excitement around the program after the dark days of Heath), but could result in some disillusionment once the season starts.
This team just has some functional weaknesses that will be difficult to overcome. From an overall standpoint, we are just very small and not exceptionally athletic (there are exceptions of course). Certainly skill, preparation, and effort can overcome some of that, but it's a difficult road when you start at least half of the conference games off at a distinct physical disadvantage.
From a scheme/personnel standpoint, we have several glaring issues:
1. Limited post play - Who do we have that can post up and generate offense in the paint? Pretty much just Leonard, and he is 6'6" (still very effective on the block though). Nance has a long way to go before he can be a back to the basket force (although obviously has a lot of potential and significant gains from Fr. to So. would not be a surprise). He brings some things to the table that Waddell didn't (much more range on his jump shot, more of a shot blocking threat, etc.), but is still developing in many respects.
2. Rebounding - On paper this team should be better on the glass than a year ago. Leonard is a very good rebounder and I expect him to be able to stay on the floor for more minutes next year and Nance rebounds at a much better rate than Waddell did. Martinez is a very effective rebounder for his size and position, and Cooke brings a dimension that we didn't have last year as an athletic force that can rebound out of his area. That's on paper. In the Canada games, they were underwhelming on the glass against inferior opposition.
3. Create off the dribble - This is the same problem as last year. When it comes right down to it, who is going to create offense late in the shot clock?
Anyway, I am very excited to see this team develop, but I think we have an uphill battle. I think 20 wins (against an admittedly easy schedule) and CBI/CIT is the realistic target for this team.
BeaverPoke
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I like the assessment. But I just don't see us having less wins than last season.
For the fact that...
our PG production will be improved. Yes it is gonna suck losing the MWC D player of the year but gilmore and adams will be able to score
SG- luke martinez will be improved
SF- losing paco cruz will suck... the only way we can replace our production there will be if its leonard
PF- Either its leonard or nance, nance will be greatly improved
C- Not to offend any of the wyo wadell lovers, but he will be replaced in terms of production quite easily.
and our bench will be better. definitely. deeper, and stronger.
Aaah I can't freakin wait
For the fact that...
our PG production will be improved. Yes it is gonna suck losing the MWC D player of the year but gilmore and adams will be able to score
SG- luke martinez will be improved
SF- losing paco cruz will suck... the only way we can replace our production there will be if its leonard
PF- Either its leonard or nance, nance will be greatly improved
C- Not to offend any of the wyo wadell lovers, but he will be replaced in terms of production quite easily.
and our bench will be better. definitely. deeper, and stronger.
Aaah I can't freakin wait
