SDPokeFan said:
kansasCowboy said:
How many freshman playing right now? How many freshman who got beat by a top team in our league.
We lost. Bad. We didn't give up. And we competed.
- with a crap ton of freshman
- a stud Soph RB
- a 3rd String Fresh QB
- Young OL
- Extremely young D backfield... Are any of them above a fresh?
- and this Young team lost about as bad as an experienced Boise team did on the same field a few weeks ago...
Did you expect a win? Bohl a bad hire? Who the hell would win in this position? Can Bohl help injuries to key players (Wick, Gentry, Coffman)
Can he control the lack of recruiting on D years before he got here? Seriously we have established that our D players were overall horrid the last two or three years of the DC era. And we are in year two of Bohl. And he's playing a vast majority of his guys (still young) all over on D.
You can blame Bohl all you want. But you could give any coach this situation and we are still here. We have to grow out of it. Keep building.
Where to start with this. First and foremost, I don't think getting 60 hung on you is a good time to pat each other on the back and talk about how you competed. Apparently you have a very loose definition of that word. Oh me they didn't give up....great. What difference would it have made if they had? Give up 70 points instead of 60? Three of the examples you used for reasons we lost are all on the offensive side of the ball. Irrelevant. Offense wasn't the problem in this game. The third string QB, young offensive line and Wick don't play defense. Wick wouldn't be playing much anyway with the way Hill is running the ball. I get there that there is absolutely nothing this team can do that would draw criticism from you. It could lose 75-0 to Laramie High and you would be in here applauding that they "didn't give up." It's what you do, and in a way it's admirable. But you are REALLY grasping at straws at this point. At some point, the freshman have to no longer play like freshman. They have played a lot. The defense didn't force a punt until late in the fourth. It is regressing.
The D is regressing? We've played two of the best teams in the conference, one right after the other. Did you expect other results after teams like EMU, WSU, UNM and AFA hung 30-49
On us? Are we really regressing after playing probably two of the top three teams in the conference in a row? Come on. As I stated this USU did exactly this to a experienced BSU D and probably a little better FSU D as well. And it happened to us with an extremely young and thread thin D.
You're right to one extent, competed is not the word I should've used. Sorry, at that point I had been up 43 hours straight. At that point you sometimes tend to use the wrong verbiage. No, we didn't compete on D. We didn't give up. But we didn't compete. I don't think we regressed. I think our young guys were outplayed by experience. Eddie was a one man show out there last night. Again, is anyone lined up behind our small LBs over the year of Fresh or RS Fresh? So what do you expect? Give this exact D with its insane lack of depth, size and age over to a DC we've had that has proven they're good: Breske; Koenning, and we would still be getting really similar results. Sorry to say, but sometimes it takes more than one year for a fresh to "grow up"... Especially when you're D is saturated with youth.
O wise, yes, we competed. And that was with reasons I had listed. I was giving an overview of the entire team, though. I could've added more two that list, I just chose a few glaring items that would make any fan say, " why are we so bad?", that would make any coach look beyond the scores, see what has actually happened to this team and cringe.
Change Coord in year two? Are you all nuts? These guys are young and are also solidifying their knowledge and play in this D scheme. If we change Coord, everything we've gone through these last two years will be for not! We will be starting from scratch with a little more talented players which evens itself out to being bad or worse again. You allow your Coords to ride out a mess also.
Shoot, my first year where I coached my O, stayed intact and injury free all year. We lead the state in yardage and scoring. I came on to a new school last year. We had promise, but lacked depth. Real similar to UW. In order to not be stuck playing so many underclassmen I had to move guys around to different positions. It took the whole O two games to figure out everything. We won, but by our D only. Our O did just enough to get by. The next two games these guys fired on all cylinders and we throttled a bad team and a a top five team in our Class. But we had key injuries after that top 5 win. QB, RB, TE and two OL went down. Behind our playmakers at QB and RB and TE were Freshman. We chose to run with the fresh instead of changing any other position around mid year. We went from 4-0 and finished 4-5. My worst O performance ever. My only losing record I've been a part of. Did those results make me a horrible coach, who didn't know his O? Not at all. In fact, even though we went winless with those Fresh last year, those fresh are now my key contributors this year, sitting at 5-1... You can say its "highschool" all you want, but the youth factor and issue are the same at any level. Young in HS, you struggle against teams with age and size. Young in college and you struggle with size, experience and speed. Young in the pros and your team just flat out sucks.
Sometimes it takes a year or so for the results to come, no matter how good or bad you think your coaches are.
