DocHolliday said:
Poke Around said:
DocHolliday said:
I'm so sick of this Black-14 stuff...as I posited an an earlier thread, Coach Eaton and the entire University were caught up in the politically correct windage of the day...the players should have been held accountable for trying to take control of a football program and holding it hostage because they couldn't get their way.
Screw all 14 of them...unlike many, I have no reservations telling anyone that there is not an ounce of 'white guilt' residing within me...I refuse to hold UW responsible for the mess this situation created.
Those players went about a chain of command and through the proper protocol of lodging a grievance, they were heard, had a forum to express their concerns, and their request was denied by a coach who was more interested in the collective concerns of his entire team rather than 14 members seeking to grandstand for their own political purposes.
The players responded in an obtuse and selfish way after being told by Eaton that what they sought was not going to happen.
I stand by Eaton 1000% on this issue...and I 'm perfectly aware that I'm supposed to feel all guilty and tragic about these poor 14 souls who found their world's crushed by BYU players and fans at the time -- reason enough for UW's football team to acquiesce to a select few without regard to the entire team of players.
Every time this issue is bought up I get sick by the knee-jerk jump to cast the University in some sort of evil-like light...and whether or not you side with me or not, I believe it is high time to get down off of your stools of ever lasting repentance.
If anyone needs a reminder, I wrote the following a few weeks ago on this issue:
On another thread on another subject, another poster decided to bring about the subject of the Black-14 into the narrative.
By the '14', I'll assume the poster was referring to what is commonly known as; 'The Black 14?'
Since the issue was raised within the context of another thread - it compelled me to mention (just in case others have not) that that episode in this man's opinion -- was a very selfish and grandstanding type of an act -- that unfortunately resulted in the firing of a coach and the downgrading and staining of a football program, and I have never felt that to be right.
In fact, I feel the entire issue cast a pall over the University and the Pokes program - a pall that was never ever deserved.
The winds of political correctness in its aftermath have unfortunately stained a head coach (Lloyd Eaton) who would not allow any one single issue by any player - or sector of players - to disrupt the entire team wide concept. If I had been around back then I would have supported it completely and with history on my side I support it unequivocally, now, and forever.
While doing radio in Denver I had the opportunity to have book author Ryan Thornburn on my show and spoke about this issue for a good 45 minutes - indeed - I let Ryan know of my feelings regarding this issue.
Upon conclusion of the book I found the players to be obtuse in their actions and manners...they went through the proper protocol of airing a grievance, they were heard, had their forum, and the head coach of the team denied their request.
So far as I am concerned -- the 14 players in question got their just desserts and failed their own teammates and the University Of Wyoming - not the other way around.
Had Eaton allowed their requests at the time, it would have established a precedence that could have led to other 'singular' issues being put in front of the rest of the program down the line for years.
Just to clarify in case anyone believes that all Wyoming Cowboys fans side with the Black 14 players...this one obviously never has - nor ever will.
If you plan on making me aware of the political sphere at the time this issue evolved, spare your time, I am more than aware of what the societal grid was like at that time unfortunately -- and none of it moves me to consider that the players were correct in their actions.
I stand by my stance, and I'd think that probably many others would agree with me on my thoughts...thoughts that may be conviction driven, however, in the sick & twisted world of intimidating political correctness may not allow another person to publicly stand on the same side of the street as do I for fear of whatever scorn may come their way.
I on the other hand have no such concerns.
I think it is safe to assume this post is written tongue in cheek.
No, Ringolsby, you moron, you would think wrong, jackass.
Here's a dirty little secret as well, a lot of folks at UW currently would agree with me.
If you want to talk to me, you don't have to attack other posters for their feelings.
As for my feelings on Black 14, there is too much time oversimplfing the matter, too many details that are quickly overlooked, and too much blame placed on either side. What can't be ignored is that the timing of Black 14, no matter who was at fault, was such that it was easily the biggest blow our football program ever suffered. If you were around back then you would know that it came at the time that Southern schools suddenly decided to recruit and play African Americans, thanks to what USC did to Alabama. It also was at the time the NCAA instituted a 1.8 rule.
And, just curious, on twitter last summer you said you were going to join Cowboy Joe Club and announced to your followers you would donate no less than the minimum for Millward Simpson level, which is $25,000. Just wondering if that donation is coming.
And what you should know is you don't have to guess what I say or feel. My name is on it, and my accounts aren't blocked to hide my feelings from anyone who wants to know them.
