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Honest Prediction
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WestWYOPoke
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VisorHair said:
The legislature gives quite a bit of money to UW, granted we could always use more, but there is certainly a onus on the university President (if we had one) and AD to fund raise. I would wager that UW receives more money (as a percentage of total revenue) from the state than any other university in the entire country. Which means that other funding sources need to be tapped, I.E. fund raising, boosters, ticket sales, etc.
But like I said, if the state were to pitch in more I certainly wouldn't complain.
Wyo2dal
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100% honest guess on NCAA appearance bubble within team next two years if we don't lose anyone and I mean anyone to season ending injury. This could have been the year, We might have made noise in the MWC tournament. Hard to say we had good chance as we squandered them.
Most people sit around and say we aren't improving but we have been but Basketball like any other sport when you start with nothing it takes more time to be ready. I think we we're close to being ready this year but shit happens.
Most people sit around and say we aren't improving but we have been but Basketball like any other sport when you start with nothing it takes more time to be ready. I think we we're close to being ready this year but shit happens.
fromolwyoming
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We were on a roll and set to finish no worse then 3rd in conference. And then Nance went down. Didn't affect the Fresno game much, but every game since, it becomes more and more obvious how much he is missed on both offense and defense. If he can get to 100% by the beginning of next season (cleared by the doctors), we would have a really solid team and, if OOC goes well, a chance at the NCAA tournament. Because up until Nance went down, we were on par to have a good shot at the NIT.
kansasCowboy
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SDPokeFan said:
The answer is yes. Wyoming went from, what, 1987 season clear up to 2002 to make the tourney again, I'd say our chances are good that we will make it again, plus not counting the Schroyer debacle, we have not been terrible as a program. 21-11, 11-17, 15-13, 14-18, 17-15, 21-12, 20-14, probably 17-15 this year. Plus our talent is growing with our guys coming back.
Yes I bypassed Schroyers year here.
kansasCowboy
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Plus we always talk of the glory years, but remember how terrible we we'd through the 60's and 70's under Strannigan and others. We bounced back under Brandenburg and even had some success under Dees, we had some success under McClain and now we're building under Shyatt.
BeaverPoke
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If Nance didn't get hurt and Hankerson didn't get suspended...I would have said this year.
And I am not trying to be the overly-optimistic BeaverPoke here.
My reasoning for this year was: We would have won out. At worst, had 1 loss, and ended up in the 3 seed.
No one wanted to play Wyo pre-injury. We would have been on an 8 game win streak or have won 7 of 8 and the only 2 teams ahead of us in the standing were NM and SDSU. In 3 games against those 2 teams we haven't been outscored in regulation.
We would have been one of the scariest teams in the MWCT and I think would have won it.
BUT, I am not trying to convince you why we would have won it, just pointing out why I thought that way.
But with the way the team has gone in the last week or 2, I don't have any idea.
I doubt Nance will return 100% next season.
I doubt we will have the mega red-shirt year.
I don't think it will be this year, or next year.
It could be the year after with Adams and Nance (assuming he has a medical red-shirt) being seniors.
They could both be NBA players, and should make it.
If Nance plays next season, I think the team has a shot, but I don't think he will be 100% next season.
Too many what-ifs right now.
Let's see if the coaching staff stays together, and see what players leave and which ones come in.
And I am not trying to be the overly-optimistic BeaverPoke here.
My reasoning for this year was: We would have won out. At worst, had 1 loss, and ended up in the 3 seed.
No one wanted to play Wyo pre-injury. We would have been on an 8 game win streak or have won 7 of 8 and the only 2 teams ahead of us in the standing were NM and SDSU. In 3 games against those 2 teams we haven't been outscored in regulation.
We would have been one of the scariest teams in the MWCT and I think would have won it.
BUT, I am not trying to convince you why we would have won it, just pointing out why I thought that way.
But with the way the team has gone in the last week or 2, I don't have any idea.
I doubt Nance will return 100% next season.
I doubt we will have the mega red-shirt year.
I don't think it will be this year, or next year.
It could be the year after with Adams and Nance (assuming he has a medical red-shirt) being seniors.
They could both be NBA players, and should make it.
If Nance plays next season, I think the team has a shot, but I don't think he will be 100% next season.
Too many what-ifs right now.
Let's see if the coaching staff stays together, and see what players leave and which ones come in.
PotatoCreekPete
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SDPokeFan said:
Who knows, with a BOT's that have no interest in sports other than to walk out onto the floor to receive plaques, which aren't deserved IMO, it could be a really long time.
If Coach Shyatt doesn't surround Nance with better talent before he leaves then it could be a very long time. When Wyoming went to the NCAA's before they had 2 really good players and a bunch a great role players. Right now Wyoming has only one really good player and a bunch of role players. Frankly I do not see any of the players that Coach Shyatt has recruited so far having an impact like Nance, so if we don't improve the talent level with the remaining scholarship(s) for this season and next season......it could be a very long time.
With football, I have more hope that we will have a MWC Championship sooner than our men's BB team makes it to the NCAA's.
I just hope that the BOT finally gets their you know whats out of their you know whats.....and discovers the 21st century as far as collegiate sports is concerned and realize that there is a lot of benefit to a university to have a high profile athletic program that is very successful so that they adequately fund it.....before it is too late!
johnywyo
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Reality Check. The next bounce will be NIT in Nance Senior year, if he's able to return. The last two great players we've had facing this injury have had limited impact with rehab and court presence in game situations. Afam, and Bailey were ghosts of what they once were. Hate being a Debbie Downer, but Groundhog Day is repeating itself on a cycle that is disturbing to the core of our Poke soul. I don't see good things in the near term, and that is the next 3 years. Hope is a crazy thing, and I'm hunting for any bright horizons anywhere with our program. This thing is a meltdown of epic proportion, no President with balls. A used car salesmen running our Ath Dept, and the struggles go on, and on. I just don't know how we catch a break at this point to put us in the big dance soon, which I think is what we want to hear.
SnowyRange
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The BOT has a university to run, and that university has far greater issues than athletics.
In addition, funding for athletics is not the issue. We have good facilities and good coaches.
fromolwyoming
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Bohl was just hired, Shyatt is getting things turned around, and Branch is doing great, but what about everything else?SnowyRange said:
PotatoCreekPete
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SnowyRange said:
Gee, I didn't know that the BOT has a university to run.....really, let me send an email to the news services. The BOT HAS been taking care of the academic side of the university for years and it is has gotten huge amounts of money for improvements, etc. and it is in very good condition...but the football budget is in the lower half of the conference, so funding IS an issue. Evidently you aren't nearly as informed as you make out to be. We need more money for coaches and we need more money for recruiting and we need more money to bring in teams to Laramie....for just a list of a few of the things that you aren't aware of. We have some good coaches but they are taking salaries that are not near the top of the conference, especially the assistants salaries. In order to keep good assistants you need good salaries, and we aren't there as yet. So you just go back to your dream world and if you want to learn the cold cruel facts come on back.
Funding IS an issue!
BackHarlowRoad
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johnywyo said:
Don't want to nitpick but Afam tore his patellar tendon. Which, in my opinion, is worse than an ACL for a basketball player. Bear in mind, both are obviously not good and returning to your previous level in bball is a bigger challenge than in football.
BackHarlowRoad
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Side note, check out Afam's twitter profile. Dude still has major love for Wyoming. MAJOR love.
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BackHarlowRoad
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WYO1016 said:
Right? Isn't it crazy how many people simply don't know how to hold a worthwhile conversation? It is possible to disagree with someone and still be civil and courteous. I've seen it. Way more gets accomplished, trust me.
PotatoCreekPete
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WYO1016 said:
You can hold your family names for discussions with your family. The person made an incredible statement that shows an utter lack of knowledge about the funding problems with the athletic programs especially football. Anyone who has followed Wyoming athletics knows full well that the BOT has constantly underfunded the athletic programs to make sure the academic programs are not nearly as impacted as the athletic programs are when cuts are made or funding decisions are made. For years there has been an anti-athletic clique in the administrative/academic side of the university and anytime funding questions are brought up they go almost ballistic to protect their own "rice bowls" to take a Chinese phrase. The BOT has constantly sided with the academic side over the years and made the athletic programs do with as little as possible and when compared to others programs in the MWC Wyoming constantly ranks in the lower portion of the conference in funding. It is way past time for the BOT to do more than lip service (which they are very good at) and deliver the funding to make the athletic programs especially football comparable with the upper echelon teams in the conference if they truly believe in "athletic excellence" as they are always saying!
kdwrightuwyo
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Tater, that doesn't require you to be a dick. You are ALWAYS bitching about something. Whenever someone says something contrary to your belief, you turn on them and treat them like they are a complete idiot. You do that all the freaking time. Your condescending attitudes towards everyone is beyond old. It really makes you look like an ass, rather than providing your point.
Like momma used to say: "It's not what you say, it's how you say it."
Like momma used to say: "It's not what you say, it's how you say it."
