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Glenn to replace QB's if turnover

Cad Poke

Cad Poke

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What is everybody else's opinion on this. For me I don't think it is a very good idea, just for the fact that Crum or whoever is at Quarterback is going to be playing not to make a mistake, which means he will probably be afraid to throw the ball. The offense is not getting the job done and I think everybody from the Oline to the coordinator need to be accountable, but to me it sounds like all of the blame is being put on the Quarterback. This whole offense is very offensive.

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2008/09/25/sports/19sports_09-25-08.txt
 
To be fair...Glenn said at his radio call in show that all skills players would be held accountable. If the RB's and WR's make mistakes they are supposedly going to sit as well, so its not just the QB's. Not sure if that applies to the linemen in regards to stupid penalties, etc or not. As for the coaches being held accountable I think they will be, at least the general feeling most people got from Burman's comments last season was anything less than at least a 6-6 record wasn't acceptable. If we get to the end of the season and we aren't at 6 wins then I guess we will see if that accountablity really is there.
 
I still think it's the turnovers killing this team which leads to no rhythm on offense. Yes, the quarterback play has been pretty offensive all year, but the turnovers have made the entire unit very inconsistent.
 
The way I look at it is that Sween must have done something horrible to piss off Glenn....to not even give that kid a shot at winning back his starting spot??? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you cant just throw him in in the middle of a game and say "make somethin happen"....I mean #1 sween Iam sure hasn't practiced with the #1 squad which takes time to learn your WR's rythm/timing for routes. #2 He is a lefty which in my eyes means that you have to run different plays intended for a lefty AND the ball is going to be coming into the receiver at different spin/rate of speed which means the receivers have to get used to that.
Just my two cents of frustration.
What did Crum do that made it known that "oh ya, he is way better than sween!", I haven't seen anything that makes him stand out from sween...and Iam not the only one in the stands that is saying that. What did Crum do to make Glenn so committed to this kid????? Did his daddy pay Glenn off?? The kid looks like a train wreck on the sidelines after he comes off...not even composed??? I don't know just a little frustrated and can't wait to say goodbye to Glenn....Hopefully next year we can get a better Head Coach...obviously it wasn't the O-coordinators fault.
 
shosho71 said:
What did Crum do that made it known that "oh ya, he is way better than sween!", I haven't seen anything that makes him stand out from sween...and Iam not the only one in the stands that is saying that.
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My feeling is that it is not so much, "Crum is way better then Sween," as much as it is "Sween sucks and he has proven it for a year and a half, maybe we throw in this other guy and see if he sucks as bad..."

Of course, by that logic, realistically, Stutzreim should probably get the nod at this point... Who, by the way, seems like he could stand to lay of the ho-hos.
 
HankScorpio said:
shosho71 said:
What did Crum do that made it known that "oh ya, he is way better than sween!", I haven't seen anything that makes him stand out from sween...and Iam not the only one in the stands that is saying that.
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My feeling is that it is not so much, "Crum is way better then Sween," as much as it is "Sween sucks and he has proven it for a year and a half, maybe we throw in this other guy and see if he sucks as bad..."

Of course, by that logic, realistically, Stutzreim should probably get the nod at this point... Who, by the way, seems like he could stand to lay of the ho-hos.
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Perhaps the issue isn't at QB? Strutz didn't look any better than Crum or Sween last week against BYU, plus the Yners had 2nd and 3rd stringers in when Strutz was in. I don't mean to suggest that our QB's are All-Americans, but I find it hard to believe that none of them have the ability to make plays. Our recievers need to get open. Brandon Stewart is the fastest guy on the team and could be back for the NM game, hopefully he can run by some defenders and maybe just maybe we can start to spread out opposing defenses.
 
So if our WR talent has dropped like a rock since our 1-10 seasons, shouldn't we fire whoever is responsible for recruiting and developing the WRs??
 
I like many others have suggested is that we can't run this pro-style offense here at UW. We have a great defense and we are NOT helping those boys out. We need to go back to a gimmicky offense and just put some damn points on the board. Pistol, Veer, Trips. Anything!!! I will be at the game this Saturday just cringing when our offense is on the field.
 
All I can gather from watching games is that Sween is tougher than Crum. It seems that when Crum gets hit, he fumbles, then is rattled the rest of the game. I think maybe 50% of the blame can fall on Sween last year, the other 50% lies on the O line, the WRs, and Cockhill. The kid has talent, we all saw that his freshman year when he dug UW out of a giant hole to win something like five of the last six games.

If any of you have read my posts on GWG or on the MWC board, you will all know that I am a big Sween supporter. Saying that, I have tried to be bias, believing that the better QB, whoever that may be, will start. Crum is defanitely not better than Sween IMO. I believe that Glenn and Cole have put all their eggs into the Crum basket, and will ride the wave to their eventual unemployment. I think that Glenn has too much pride to admit that maybe they made a mistake. Sween and Cockhill were scapegoats, Cockhill now banks, (which is probably best), and Sween rides the bench. I think that they need to drop the shit, put Sween in for an ENTIRE game and see how he does. It really isn't fair to put him in midway through the third quarter and expect him to be money right off the bat.

Just my .02
 
wyoforlife said:
All I can gather from watching games is that Sween is tougher than Crum. It seems that when Crum gets hit, he fumbles, then is rattled the rest of the game. I think maybe 50% of the blame can fall on Sween last year, the other 50% lies on the O line, the WRs, and Cockhill. The kid has talent, we all saw that his freshman year when he dug UW out of a giant hole to win something like five of the last six games.

If any of you have read my posts on GWG or on the MWC board, you will all know that I am a big Sween supporter. Saying that, I have tried to be bias, believing that the better QB, whoever that may be, will start. Crum is defanitely not better than Sween IMO. I believe that Glenn and Cole have put all their eggs into the Crum basket, and will ride the wave to their eventual unemployment. I think that Glenn has too much pride to admit that maybe they made a mistake. Sween and Cockhill were scapegoats, Cockhill now banks, (which is probably best), and Sween rides the bench. I think that they need to drop the shit, put Sween in for an ENTIRE game and see how he does. It really isn't fair to put him in midway through the third quarter and expect him to be money right off the bat.

Just my .02
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Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Sween get an entire game. I would request he gets to practice with the 1's the ENTIRE week prior though.

Sad fact is...I am not sure it matters which QB is in, we have the most pathetic, predictable game plans I have ever witnessed at UW. Maybe worse than last year!

Run weak side, run strong side, run middle, punt!
 
I think JG is the type of guy that talks about things like turnovers and makes them a big thing. Instead of keeping his mouth shut and not putting the screws to his guys he blows it up in the papers and the players fixate on it until it becomes an even bigger problem.

Slowly beginning to think this guy was never meant for coaching at this level.
 
What ever happened to all these great tight ends we were supposed to have, are they being used more to block or are the Quarterbacks just not looking for them.
 
McPeachy said:
wyoforlife said:
All I can gather from watching games is that Sween is tougher than Crum. It seems that when Crum gets hit, he fumbles, then is rattled the rest of the game. I think maybe 50% of the blame can fall on Sween last year, the other 50% lies on the O line, the WRs, and Cockhill. The kid has talent, we all saw that his freshman year when he dug UW out of a giant hole to win something like five of the last six games.

If any of you have read my posts on GWG or on the MWC board, you will all know that I am a big Sween supporter. Saying that, I have tried to be bias, believing that the better QB, whoever that may be, will start. Crum is defanitely not better than Sween IMO. I believe that Glenn and Cole have put all their eggs into the Crum basket, and will ride the wave to their eventual unemployment. I think that Glenn has too much pride to admit that maybe they made a mistake. Sween and Cockhill were scapegoats, Cockhill now banks, (which is probably best), and Sween rides the bench. I think that they need to drop the shit, put Sween in for an ENTIRE game and see how he does. It really isn't fair to put him in midway through the third quarter and expect him to be money right off the bat.

Just my .02
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Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Sween get an entire game. I would request he gets to practice with the 1's the ENTIRE week prior though.

Sad fact is...I am not sure it matters which QB is in, we have the most pathetic, predictable game plans I have ever witnessed at UW. Maybe worse than last year!

Run weak side, run strong side, run middle, punt!
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The thing is, we looked great against the Yners the first quarter. We moved the ball down the field, had quick little hits to the outside, etc. But as we have all seen, if it works, change it! Lets establish the run, we need to be a power running team, blah, blah, blah, and I am tired of it. Our coaching staff has the unique ability of not being able to adapt, or change the game plan if necessary.
 
wyoforlife said:
McPeachy said:
wyoforlife said:
All I can gather from watching games is that Sween is tougher than Crum. It seems that when Crum gets hit, he fumbles, then is rattled the rest of the game. I think maybe 50% of the blame can fall on Sween last year, the other 50% lies on the O line, the WRs, and Cockhill. The kid has talent, we all saw that his freshman year when he dug UW out of a giant hole to win something like five of the last six games.

If any of you have read my posts on GWG or on the MWC board, you will all know that I am a big Sween supporter. Saying that, I have tried to be bias, believing that the better QB, whoever that may be, will start. Crum is defanitely not better than Sween IMO. I believe that Glenn and Cole have put all their eggs into the Crum basket, and will ride the wave to their eventual unemployment. I think that Glenn has too much pride to admit that maybe they made a mistake. Sween and Cockhill were scapegoats, Cockhill now banks, (which is probably best), and Sween rides the bench. I think that they need to drop the shit, put Sween in for an ENTIRE game and see how he does. It really isn't fair to put him in midway through the third quarter and expect him to be money right off the bat.

Just my .02
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Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Sween get an entire game. I would request he gets to practice with the 1's the ENTIRE week prior though.

Sad fact is...I am not sure it matters which QB is in, we have the most pathetic, predictable game plans I have ever witnessed at UW. Maybe worse than last year!

Run weak side, run strong side, run middle, punt!
Click to expand...

The thing is, we looked great against the Yners the first quarter. We moved the ball down the field, had quick little hits to the outside, etc. But as we have all seen, if it works, change it! Lets establish the run, we need to be a power running team, blah, blah, blah, and I am tired of it. Our coaching staff has the unique ability of not being able to adapt, or change the game plan if necessary.
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I know, it drives me crazy too! Why do we have to "establish the run" when a successful offensive series just happened?! A 70/30 pass to run mix seemed to work pretty well and actually move the ball. We like to see a passing game and we don't have the huge Oline to play big 10 football.
 
My feeling is that it is not so much, "Crum is way better then Sween," as much as it is "Sween sucks and he has proven it for a year and a half, maybe we throw in this other guy and see if he sucks as bad..."

Of course, by that logic, realistically, Stutzreim should probably get the nod at this point... Who, by the way, seems like he could stand to lay of the ho-hos.[/quote]

Crum way better??? really are u forgetting the 5 of the 6 games sween won when he first stepped into the role of starting QB?? What has Crum done???
Like I said there is a lot to be said when u don't practice with guys your throwing a ball to and the fact that those guys don't catch a ball from a left handed thrower.....try it sometime....its not as easy as u think....the spin is different when it comes at you especially when your used to a ball coming at u the other way.
 
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