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Glenn and football knowledge ...

nirv117

nirv117

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I'm not trying to put down Glenn or say we need a new coach with this post, but as I was watching another lame "Joe Glenn Show" then later talking about its lameness with my brother, and comparing it to other coaches shows I realized that I have never seen Joe Glenn give any insight, tactic, etc. that displays any football knowledge.

Maybe I'm just not in the right places. I'm not at practices, or team meetings. I've seen many other coaches break down film, explain why something happened, missed block, wrong route, etc. or explain why their scheme will work. But I don't recall ever seeing Glenn demonstrate his football knowledge in that manner.

Has anyone else seen him do any of these things? I'm not trying to imply that he has no knowledge, I'm sure he does, he's won elsewhere, but it seems odd that he never shares it publicly (that I've seen).

Thoughts?
 
Those shows are the absolute most boring thing to watch. All Joe does is name the player attributes for every frikkin play, for example:

"Here John Doe, we like to call him J-Doe, gets the ball up the middle. J-Doe's seven foot, ten inches, and weighs in at 342.6 pounds. He comes out of VD High School in Kazakstan, the Fighting Borats."

Repeat over and over with new player and attributes.

Maybe Joe should stop memorizing the exact weights and heights of every player and actually try to coach 'em up. And no, I have never heard Joe spit out a word of football knowledge. That's what drives me nuts about the guy. He acts like every fan is a brain-dead-idiot, that couldn't possibly grasp any concept of D-1 football. That is what I want out of the Joe Glenn Show, somewhat technical breakdown of the highlight plays, break down a key block or some shit like that.
 
I have noticed that as well, "well you'll just have to show up and see" he says. I think he and Cole pull their plays off of NCAA 2009 for the PS3, honestly. He is the only coach I have seen that does not wear the headset. He does get pissed and throw his shit on the ground when the Pokes are flagged though :D
 
Glenn has no doubt been a great ambassador for the state and though he demonstrates minimal football speak when he's on the air, I do think he knows the game fairly well. I've been to a few practices and he does get his hands wet to some degree.

However, nothing brings in more fans, more donations, more attention and more fun....than winning! We could have the biggest as%hole in the world (see Dennis Erickson) coaching here and as long as he's winning he'll prosper. Personality and charisma are fine qualities in any coach but cannot, by itself, sustain a program without the W's.
 
I think he is quite knowledgeable but may not be a mastermind like say...Mike Shannahan. It has been his history to be a rah-rah type of guy publicly, but last years guarantee getting back to Utah probably has made it worse. Wyoming is a small state, I would hold my cards close to the vest from now on as well if I was him. We don't need to be helping analyze or own team making the opponents job any easier.

GO POKES, BEAT THE BGSU FALCONS.
 
Well, he knows that turnovers are bad. Other than that, I agree with you. Never heard a breakdown like Welniak did during the AFA game on the radio.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
Do Joe and Bob understand that the object of the game is to score more points than the opponent?
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Nah, he has been playing golf for too long. We need to have him start bowling. That should get us some wins then. lol
 
Well as a former football player of 15 years and having personally met Joe Glenn, Sat in on his practices, been to many games; he just isn't what we need in a HC.

I have personally sat in on many practices and scrimmages over the years and it's not a very professional atmosphere. Practices are too laid back and players aren't held accountable. I honestly sometimes think Glenn is more worried about what he is going to say to the media and fans after the game than ACTUALLY coaching the team to a win. I was down on the field after we beat Ohio by 1 point! and he was just smiling away, shaking hands, and just being overjoyed. If I were him, I'd be in that damn locker room telling my team we were lucky to get a win and that we must improve or we will lose to AFA(which we did) I almost went up to him and questioned him about why he wasn't in the locker room bustin some asses. Give me an +++++ any day that's a winner. I'm sure the Patriots fans don't mind. I have been chewed out many times by coach's I absolutely despised but some of them were damn good coach's. I don't care about Glenn's nice guy image, I care about his record and I believe that speaks for itself.
 
I find it interesting to hear from someone who has attended practice to say that there is no accountability for the players even at practice. This doesn't surprise me one bit. I found the article in yesterday's boomerang quite hilarious: "Glenn's Ultimatum". It took him 5 seasons and 4 games into the 6th to decide that if guys weren't going to hang onto the ball, that they would be benched. How can any player take that seriously? After 5+ seasons he finally decides that ball control is important? Every realistic person out there can see the wheels quickly spinning off this ride. Too bad, Joe's a great guy, but that great guy has 1 winning season out of 5 and is quickly headed to 1 out of 6.

As a side note, I'm ashamed that it took another website's Hitler to turn me on to this site. I find this site much more youthful and fun, and consequently, filled with much more realism. But I'm glad to be here and look forward to the discussions on everything Cowboy sports.
 
Honestly, I am glad to see a bunch that posted there...over here. This board, from looking at it for only one day, is much more cutting edge, much more laid back, and has much more "inside" scoop (which is really what we all want). It will make us all forget about Rivals...
 
Here is the thing that strikes me about this whole knowledge issue. If there were only one or two individuals that follow the Pokes saying that Glenn hasn't shown much in the way of football finesse, then I would pretty much discount those opinions. But, it seems that anyone not completely blinded by the dazzling bullshit that Glenn dishes out during any given press opportunity can see that there are serious gaps in his managerial style that doesn't work in D1A football. Not really sure how he pulled it off at Montana, but then again, he was only there 3 years so he really didn't have "his" players in place yet. I agree with those that feel he is a great ambassador for the school, but it seems that the old adage "Nice guys finish last" is more than fitting here.
 
Does anyone else feel like Joe's ultimatum is a bad thing. Maybe this should have been taken care of in sping ball, practice, and scrimmages. I have a feeling that his ultimatum is going to make the offense even more conservative than it is. The quarterbacks will be afraid to make a mistake, so they won't be throwing down field at all (not like we done it a lot this year anyways), and will be looking for the short hook routes and screens that consistently gain us a whopping 1-2 yards every play.
 
I think ball control is something that can be taught in practice to some extent. Teach the proper techniques on holding the ball, making reads etc. If they make a mistake in practice - Correct it right then, make them run, or whatever. Eventually they will learn and as they practice they will play.

...and this should have been done years ago. Its not like this turnover thing is new. There have been two consistency's with this coaching staff. Losing and turnovers.
 
I don't necessarily think its a bad thing. I do believe that this policy should have been put into place during Fall camp when they obviously were still having this problem. What I see happening though is inconsistency in how it will be enforced. Joe and Bob already don't see eye to eye on some things with the offense. Now throw in the possibility that a receiver doesn't run his route just right and Crum puts one right into the DBs chest for a pick. We all know that Crum is Cole's guy and Sween is Glenn's guy. How does this play out?
 
brocksamson said:
As a side note, I'm ashamed that it took another website's Hitler to turn me on to this site. I find this site much more youthful and fun, and consequently, filled with much more realism. But I'm glad to be here and look forward to the discussions on everything Cowboy sports.
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Agree.....gowyogo has been shit for years, anyway....bunch of 60 and 70 year old fuckers who don't really know modern college sports
 
Cornpoke said:
I have personally sat in on many practices and scrimmages over the years and it's not a very professional atmosphere. Practices are too laid back and players aren't held accountable.
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I KNEW IT!!! I almost jumped out of my chair when I read this post. I've been suspect to this from the very beginning of his tenure.
 
Brew_Poke said:
brocksamson said:
As a side note, I'm ashamed that it took another website's Hitler to turn me on to this site. I find this site much more youthful and fun, and consequently, filled with much more realism. But I'm glad to be here and look forward to the discussions on everything Cowboy sports.
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Agree.....gowyogo has been shit for years, anyway....bunch of 60 and 70 year old fuckers who don't really know modern college sports
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LOL Plus they revered Eaton more than anyone else who coached at UW. My problem with the od guys was that they were more into the 1960's unis than the ones from 1987-96. I've seen pics of the 1960s unis and they were not that good-looking.
 
Just one more side not on practices. I go almost daily to the practices(I'm a former football player, I just can't get going to practice outta my system. lol) I don't necessarily put all the blame on Joe when his assistants need to step up and call their position players out. If a receiver drops a ball or runs a bad route in practice, 90% of the time nothing is said!!! Damnit, we should re-run the play and get it right! The WR coach needs to let his guy know what he did wrong and how to correct it. It just doesn't happen enough. Our practices seems to be scripted and that's fine if we are getting the plays right. Doesn't seem to matter how well we just ran that last play we just keep moving onto the next one in the playbook. If we can't get 5 plays right how can we expect to get 30 right for the game?
 
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