Gillispie article

[wellpoke]

I know some of us really wanted the administration to puruse BCG. Here's a pretty interesting article about him wanting to get back into the game:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-gillispie030811

Sound like he's really made a turn around and gotten his life together. If Burman passed on him simply because of the alcohol issues, well, that's piss-poor judgement on his part. With UW's history of alcohol related incidents (Dimel, the 8 track boys, etc.) I can understand why the administration was gun-shy. but at least give the guy a shot, especially if he's interested in the job, as he seemed to be. If it was determined that he wasn't the right fit AFTER the interview, ok, but at least get to the interview.

I hope like hell that Burman hits a home-run with this hire. We need it desperately. But if we COULD have had Gillispie, and the next guy doesn't work out... well, let's just say that Burman better hope that another school will give him the chance he didn't give to BCG.

GO POKES!

 

[WYCowboy]

I know some of us really wanted the administration to puruse BCG. Here's a pretty interesting article about him wanting to get back into the game:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-gillispie030811

Sound like he's really made a turn around and gotten his life together. If Burman passed on him simply because of the alcohol issues, well, that's piss-poor judgement on his part. With UW's history of alcohol related incidents (Dimel, the 8 track boys, etc.) I can understand why the administration was gun-shy. but at least give the guy a shot, especially if he's interested in the job, as he seemed to be. If it was determined that he wasn't the right fit for UW AFTER the interview, ok, but at least get to the interview.

I hope like hell that Burman hits a home-run with this hire. We need it desparately. But if we COULD have had Gillispie, and the next guy doesn't work out... well, let's just say that Burman better hope that another school will give him the chance he didn't give to BCG.

Exactly right. Burman has his neck stretched out on this hire and he put himself in that position.


GO POKES!

 

[bladerunnr]

Burman has already proved he's incompetent. He should have been fired right along with HS. If this is a bad hire, I seriously question whether we can remain a division 1 program.

 

[Bryoming]

I seriously question whether we can remain a division 1 program.

Go take that crap over to the other board with the rest of the pessimists. We can compete in D1 athletics across the board just fine. As soon as we find the right coach we'll be back to contending for conference titles. We're not even 10 years removed upsetting Gonzaga in the NCAA tournament.

 

[wyopokes2]

I seriously question whether we can remain a division 1 program.

Go take that crap over to the other board with the rest of the pessimists. We can compete in D1 athletics across the board just fine. As soon as we find the right coach we'll be back to contending for conference titles. We're not even 10 years removed upsetting Gonzaga in the NCAA tournament.

And damn near toppling a 3 seeded Arizona team. I know we lost by 8, but that was after late game fouling. Had we won that game against Zona we would have gone on to play a 12 seeded Mizzou and possibly advanced to an Elite Eight appearance.

 

[TSpoke]

All the negativity around this hiring process(moreso on the other board but here to) is really starting to annoy me. People are getting pissed off about something that we know nothing about. Burman said we wouldn't have hired anyone yet and we shouldn't have because most canidates are still coaching. But people are still pissed that we don't have a hire yet.
People are thinking that if we don't hire BCG then we have failed. We dont know anything about how the conversations between the parties went. We have rumors and veiled sources in the know that said he was interested and we turned him down. Is it true,maybe but who knows. Even if it is, there are plenty of great and qualified canidates. Dunlap, Dooley, Dave Rice would all be great hires along with probably many other that I dont know about. Why don't we let Burman make the hire before we string him up for it. :twocents:

 

[wellpoke]

First off, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Those who are becoming more negative have good reason to do so, considering the results of late. personally, I'm a glass half-full guy about Wyoming athletics, and I hope against hope that we get a great hire.

And I wasn't particularly sold on Gillispie. He's not the only coach out there, and may not even be the best coach available. My point is, if we pass on him simply because of the alcohol issues - especially when he seems to have proven that they're fixed and without so much as an interview - then Burman needs to have another great guy on the hook (Dunlap, Dooley, Shyatt, etc.). If he doesn't, well... see above.

What was the point of firing Schroyer mid-season if not to get a jump on a guy like Gillispie?

GO POKES!

 

[bladerunnr]

I seriously question whether we can remain a division 1 program.

Go take that crap over to the other board with the rest of the pessimists. We can compete in D1 athletics across the board just fine. As soon as we find the right coach we'll be back to contending for conference titles. We're not even 10 years removed upsetting Gonzaga in the NCAA tournament.

10 years ago, you idiot! Were losing the play in game possibly for the 3d time in 4 years. This is the moronic thinking I can't understand. We've not had a winning conference season in something like 8 or 9 years and you say we can compete just fine. As soon as we find the right coach? What makes you think Burman will hire the right guy? Was it his last brilliant hire? Are we competing in Football? Dead last in conference last year and only 1 winning record in the conference in the last 12 years. We're the joke of the conference in both sports.

Sunshine pumpers like you make me sick. No one is ever going to hold Buchanan or Burman's feet to the fire. They know idiots like you will support anything for about 4 years until they hire another loser.

 

[bladerunnr]

Here's my last thought and my last post for the year. We had a chance to go after Gillespie. He would turn us around just like Bob Huggins turned around K-state. It would give the school and the whole state a shot in the arm that we desperately need. We even fired our coach before the season was over. We could have interviewed him and made the offer. If he turns it down, fine. At least we tried.

Instead, it sounds like were going after another assistant with NO d1 coaching experience. If that was our only option - Ok. But it isn't. So why should I be positive when we pass up a sure thing and go for another hope and a prayer. Doesn't it bother anyone that Dunlap's only head coaching experience is at Metro State?
That he hasn't taken a head job or that no place he's interested in has made him an offer? If being an good assistant was such a guarantee of head coaching success, then we should go after Pat knight, he was an assistant under Bob Knight. Oh wait, he just got fired. Never mind.

 

[Bryoming]

Sunshine pumpers like you make me sick. No one is ever going to hold Buchanan or Burman's feet to the fire. They know idiots like you will support anything for about 4 years until they hire another loser.

Go crawl into a bottle and drown your sorrows, then. Negative attitudes never solved anything. I'll keep looking at the bright side and enjoy it when the program returns to its winning ways. Meanwhile, you'll be even more bitter because you look like an idiot for wondering if we should stay D1. Enjoy your miserable existence.

 

[alyssa]

Billy Clyde looks a lot cuter than the last time I saw him and heard him talk. That alcohol and horses......etc.
I think he is a dream coach.
I thought that a few years ago his head got too big.

 

[alyssa]

Here's my last thought and my last post for the year. We had a chance to go after Gillespie. He would turn us around just like Bob Huggins turned around K-state. It would give the school and the whole state a shot in the arm that we desperately need. We even fired our coach before the season was over. We could have interviewed him and made the offer. If he turns it down, fine. At least we tried.

Instead, it sounds like were going after another assistant with NO d1 coaching experience. If that was our only option - Ok. But it isn't. So why should I be positive when we pass up a sure thing and go for another hope and a prayer. Doesn't it bother anyone that Dunlap's only head coaching experience is at Metro State?
That he hasn't taken a head job or that no place he's interested in has made him an offer? If being an good assistant was such a guarantee of head coaching success, then we should go after Pat knight, he was an assistant under Bob Knight. Oh wait, he just got fired. Never mind.

Your mentioning Pat Knight reminds me that I heard that he was looking into the program at UT-Arlington.
And UTA seems to be preparing to bring football back too. If they do that to the FBS level that will be 13 FBS teams in Texas. That's seems so crazy..........

 

[billings]

Here's my last thought and my last post for the year. We had a chance to go after Gillespie. He would turn us around just like Bob Huggins turned around K-state. It would give the school and the whole state a shot in the arm that we desperately need. We even fired our coach before the season was over. We could have interviewed him and made the offer. If he turns it down, fine. At least we tried.

Instead, it sounds like were going after another assistant with NO d1 coaching experience. If that was our only option - Ok. But it isn't. So why should I be positive when we pass up a sure thing and go for another hope and a prayer. Doesn't it bother anyone that Dunlap's only head coaching experience is at Metro State?
That he hasn't taken a head job or that no place he's interested in has made him an offer? If being an good assistant was such a guarantee of head coaching success, then we should go after Pat knight, he was an assistant under Bob Knight. Oh wait, he just got fired. Never mind.

How do you know he was even interested? Oh wait....rumors

we have no clue who is on the radar other than rumors and no interviews yet.

People really jumping to conclusions here it seems to me. It has been a quiet process for a reason. Doubt anybody not on the inside really knows all the moving pieces.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

Sunshine pumpers like you make me sick. No one is ever going to hold Buchanan or Burman's feet to the fire. They know idiots like you will support anything for about 4 years until they hire another loser.

Go crawl into a bottle and drown your sorrows, then. Negative attitudes never solved anything. I'll keep looking at the bright side and enjoy it when the program returns to its winning ways. Meanwhile, you'll be even more bitter because you look like an idiot for wondering if we should stay D1. Enjoy your miserable existence.

Wyo16- you are the problem with Wyoming athletics right now. We are about to turn the corner, we can rebuild, we just need a few more birthdays, blah, blah, blah.....
If you consider wanting a successful and winning program as being negative, then I am the most negative son of a bitch you ever met. Losing and mediocrity is for losers. Accepting losing and mediocrity is stupidity. Please lead us back to winning with your positive attitude. It has really benefitted our programs over the last 10-12 years. Keep up the good work!

 

[WyoBrandX]

I'm pretty sure anything WYO1016 does in life only has a very, very, very small effect on Wyoming Athletics. He is certainly not the cause of Wyoming Athletics problems. However, the negativity surrounding the programs certainly gets the attention of players, recruits, and coaches and causes a hell of a lot more issues than a positive attitude by a fan. I'd bet a recruit researching Wyoming running across many posts of fans demanding that football/basketball drop a division has more affect on their decisions than someone posting 'there are some great coaches out there, maybe we will get one.'

I know some people are frustrated. It's not like Wyoming Athletics has sat around and done nothing lately. New football coach who was the number #1 ranked offensive coordinator in 2007 or something like that. Hiring a new men's bball coach now. Nobody is getting a free pass here as we can see with Schroyer not getting 4 years.

Things aren't going to change over night - and maybe the wrong people will be selected again causing us to wait a few more years to see a winning season. Hopefully that is not the case. But no matter how much you complain about things, we aren't going to time warp into the future and find out if we have a winner or not.

 

[Bryoming]

Wyo16- you are the problem with Wyoming athletics right now. We are about to turn the corner, we can rebuild, we just need a few more birthdays, blah, blah, blah.....

You've got me all wrong. I'm absolutely disgusted with where our basketball program is right now, and I sure as hell wasn't a happy camper during football season. I expect Wyoming to be competing for championships every year, and it's a kick in the nuts to see them suck as bad as they do.

However, there is a silver lining. We've taken steps in the right direction by getting rid of our dead weight coach. There is some talent on our team, but there needs to be a big coaching hire and some serious recruiting to get this team turned around, and turned around in a hurry. BCG isn't the only answer out there, but if we don't even give him a look then our AD is a damn fool. I haven't written Burman off yet, but he's teetering on the brink.

Hearing fans talk about dropping down a level in competition really burns me. Sure we've had some rough years lately, but that doesn't mean we should quit trying. Losers quit, winners keep fighting. Say what you will about me, call me naive, say I'm the problem, etc..., but if you've given up hope then you're nothing more than a quitter.

 

[laxwyo]

Dropping a division isn't a good idea. I'd imagine we'd probably end up in the same boat we are in right now. It's kinda like when people that don't have any money get a raise, but then they just increase their standard of living and then then still have no money. It would be the opposite for wyoming athletics.

Bladerunner is just getting his pre bracket picking booze fest going on. It helps dull the senses so that we can make money.

Blade, did you win any money on Wyoming's ineptness yesterday? Hopefully you parlayed Wyoming's MWC tournament jinx into some cold cash.

 

[bladerunnr]

Dropping a division isn't a good idea. I'd imagine we'd probably end up in the same boat we are in right now. It's kinda like when people that don't have any money get a raise, but then they just increase their standard of living and then then still have no money. It would be the opposite for wyoming athletics.

Bladerunner is just getting his pre bracket picking booze fest going on. It helps dull the senses so that we can make money.

Blade, did you win any money on Wyoming's ineptness yesterday? Hopefully you parlayed Wyoming's MWC tournament jinx into some cold cash.

Lax, I leave for Vegas tomorrow. I will be studying the board for the conference tournaments and then on sunday for the brackets. No, I didn't bet the game yesterday. I have a hard time watching this team. I don't see the talent everyone else sees. I'm surprised we don't break a few rims every game.

My point is this: I believe we have an administration that doesn't take the losses as hard as the rest of us. I see the following scenario: Burman and Buchanan discussing just how much money they can save on a coach and still get a few butts in the seats. I don't think they give a damn if we win or lose and that pisses me off more than anything. It's the mentality csewe had for 30 years. The difference is: they were always broke and were not.

 

[Cheywypoke]

How do you know he was even interested? Oh wait....rumors

Actually, Gillespie's interest in the UW job has been confirmed by Tracy Ringolsby, (a professional journalist, hall of fame inducted baseball writer, etc.) he seems to have some pretty credible sources.

Regarding Gillespie, unless they have Dunlap in their back pocket, I think Burman and Buchanan have screwed the pooch, yet again. Why not hire Gillespie, keep him on a short leash, add a personal conduct clause to his contract and give the man a second chance. Granted, he does screw up and there will be criticsm, however, a proven winner at the D1 level vs. someone who doesn't have D1 experience? I know which way the scale tilts in my mind.

 

[NowherePoke]

All the negativity around this hiring process(moreso on the other board but here to) is really starting to annoy me. People are getting pissed off about something that we know nothing about. Burman said we wouldn't have hired anyone yet and we shouldn't have because most canidates are still coaching. But people are still pissed that we don't have a hire yet.
People are thinking that if we don't hire BCG then we have failed. We dont know anything about how the conversations between the parties went. We have rumors and veiled sources in the know that said he was interested and we turned him down. Is it true,maybe but who knows. Even if it is, there are plenty of great and qualified canidates. Dunlap, Dooley, Dave Rice would all be great hires along with probably many other that I dont know about. Why don't we let Burman make the hire before we string him up for it. :twocents:

Sort of agree, but the answer to your question at the end is simple: We already did four years ago and he destroyed the program through small-time thinking and cronyism. It is astonishing that he is still AD, despite totally destroying one of the two revenue sports and achieving little to nothing of note across the entire department (only exception is Mark Branch's program).