Gags/Holmgren....what's it going to take to start

[Cowboy Junky]

writing basketball articles? I don't see the need for 5 football articles a week on the Casper Star or Wyoming Tribune Boomerang sites. We suck balls. That's all we needed to know. The majority of us have already checked out of football season. Honestly, I haven't clicked on one of the football links since we got embarrassed by an FCS school, AGAIN.

We're the defending conference champions at basketball. You would think one of them would realize that we are excited about hoops. You would think that one of them would come up with the brilliant idea to write something that Wyoming fans WANT to read. It might be a better idea to let that paper in Casper/Cheyennamie print football articles and shift your focus to basketball.

Print what people are excited about if you want to generate sales/traffic. If you haven't figured it out yet: it's not the 0-5 football team.

Does anyone have Mike Vorel's number? These writers are about as inspiring as the football team that they obsess over: articles, vidcasts, blogs, twitter.....So far, they've each written one basketball article since media days, and it was because their bosses required them to cover media days.

It's basketball season. Maybe Gags/Holmgren should talk to a member of a team with a winning percentage higher than .00000000000. I would read that.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Maybe Gags/Holmgren should talk to a member of a team with a winning percentage higher than .00000000000. I would read that.

I guess they wouldn't be talking to Cowboy hoops either, since they are currently 0-0. The first exhibition game is still a month away. That is plenty of time to get basketball coverage out there.

Part of newsworthiness is timeliness. Cowboy football plays in four days. Cowboy basketball plays in 32 days.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

Maybe Gags/Holmgren should talk to a member of a team with a winning percentage higher than .00000000000. I would read that.

I guess they wouldn't be talking to Cowboy hoops either, since they are currently 0-0. The first exhibition game is still a month away. That is plenty of time to get basketball coverage out there.

Part of newsworthiness is timeliness. Cowboy football plays in four days. Cowboy basketball plays in 32 days.

Part of newsworthiness is reality. How many people are clicking on the link to find out about our new walk-on wide receiver(although he is from Cheyenne and may turn out to be one hell of a football player) when our team is 0-5 and has lost to TWO FCS schools, one of them at home?

I get it. They're required to do a certain amount of football during football season, but a vidcast, multiple articles a week, football blogs, twitter full of all the latest information about one of the worst football teams in Wyoming history. It's all over the place.

I know basketball doesn't tip off for a month and a day, but there are plenty of stories they could run that generate a hell of a lot more interest than an article on Air Force cut blocks or a video on Tayton Montgomery. I would rather read about what they're planning on doing to hang the banner that our MWC champion Cowboys brought home from Vegas.

I know they have a minimum requirement they have to meet. I'm just saying, do the minimum for football and maybe do the vidcasts about Josh Adams, or Larry Shyatt, because honestly: there might be about three people(all of them related to Tayton) who want to watch a video with Tayton Montgomery more than a video of Larry Shyatt.

I'm just a little disappointed I keep clicking on their sites and picking up their newspapers and all I see is more garbage about our train wreck football team and the same basketball article that came out on media day a week ago.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Yeah, stop doing football articles in the middle of football season....

 

[Cowboy Junky]

Yeah, stop doing football articles in the middle of football season....

Who said stop doing football articles? I'm not on the football board. I'm on the basketball board wishing they did more than one basketball article each since media days a week ago.

As far as the blogs, vidcasts, tweets.......Do we really need that much coverage for the worst football team anyone can remember?

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

The football team is in one hell of a slump and the student athletes need support more now than ever. Part of that support is continued news coverage by the state newspapers. Just because you are tired of reading about them, doesn't mean that the articles aren't warranted or needed.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

The football team is in one hell of a slump and the student athletes need support more now than ever. Part of that support is continued news coverage by the state newspapers. Just because you are tired of reading about them, doesn't mean that the articles aren't warranted or needed.

Maybe we should take them to McDonalds for an ice cream after the game if we lose by less than a touchdown?

You guys are acting like I'm saying we should stop covering football. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: it's basketball season. START COVERING BASKETBALL. That's my point.

If you go to either Wyosports or CST, you'll see 3 football articles a week, a couple of vidcasts a week, a press conference with Craig Bohl every week, an earth shattering piece on Air Force cut blocking, a live chat, and just about as much football coverage as you would expect for a 5-0 team. For basketball, you'll see the article they we're required to write on media day.

You don't get the point. If they have time to go to Laramie to talk to Tayton Montgomery, they have time to stop by the AA to talk to Larry Shyatt.

It's basketball season. They need to start acting like it.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

There has been what, one practice for basketball? We are knee deep in football right now with more games right around the corner than basketball has in the next two months.

There's time to cover basketball...like when they are actually doing something...so relax and support the kids bleeding brown and gold right now in the trenches, fighting for Your a university and State. (Admittedly losing the fight, but they haven't given up yet, so why should fans?)

 

[Cowboy Junky]

There has been what, one practice for basketball? We are knee deep in football right now with more games right around the corner than basketball has in the next two months.

There's time to cover basketball...like when they are actually doing something...so relax and support the kids bleeding brown and gold right now in the trenches, fighting for Your a university and State. (Admittedly losing the fight, but they haven't given up yet, so why should fans?)

The fans gave up because they don't like turning on the t.v. and watching Wyoming lose to an FCS team......twice......once at home. That's why the fans gave up. I'm sure I'll probably turn it on again and switch the channel when we're down 21 points to an FCS team in the first half. That's not my point. The only reason I brought up football was to show that both of our resident sports writers are currently working hard and not hospitalized with footballsuckalitis.

I'm disappointed by the Wyoming sports media, with the one basketball article both of our award winning sports writers put out in the last week. I think a MWC champion deserves more coverage than that. People are excited about the basketball team. There's an energy around the state that I haven't felt in a long time. Maybe the newspapers should try and capitalize on that.

I think a week is plenty of time to open up the books on the 2015-2016 basketball Cowboys, especially when you go to either the CST or the Boomerang Eagle and their sites are flooded with recently produced media about a football team that's struggling to NOT be remembered as the worst in Wyoming history.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

It's called being a fan...a real fan and supporter of the University. I can't stand the fairweather fans who only support when the program is winning. I support the boys who go out and put it out on the line for the team, school, and state. If you don't, that's your purgative...

The basketball team is another team to cover, as they are the reigning champs. But their season has barely begun...as in one practice! Why are there not two or three articles about those guys? They are hardly doing anything that the reporters can cover......while the football team has a plethora of things going on right now! Just like how the volleyball team has articles being written about them. Or even the one or two about our soccer team. The articles are written because the sport is in season and games are going on.

Would I enjoy more info about the basketball team, absolutely. Do I want the reporters to abandon the football and other teams who are more actively engaged in their seasons? Absolutely not. Their time is coming when 4-6 articles will be written about them weekly...but that time is not right now.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

Oh, and nice edit, removing the parent comment. Shows a bit of class.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

It's called being a fan...a real fan and supporter of the University. I can't stand the fairweather fans who only support when the program is winning. I support the boys who go out and put it out on the line for the team, school, and state. If you don't, that's your purgative...

The basketball team is another team to cover, as they are the reigning champs. But their season has barely begun...as in one practice! Why are there not two or three articles about those guys? They are hardly doing anything that the reporters can cover......while the football team has a plethora of things going on right now! Just like how the volleyball team has articles being written about them. Or even the one or two about our soccer team. The articles are written because the sport is in season and games are going on.

Would I enjoy more info about the basketball team, absolutely. Do I want the reports to abandon the football and other teams who are more actively engaged in their seasons? Absolutely not. Their time is coming when 4-6 articles will be written about them weekly...but that time is not right now.

You like to watch 0-5 Wyoming football. I don't. If that makes me fair weather than send me some sun block, because I'm not going to game at the War this year, and am very likely to change the channel when we're down 28 to any number of shit teams left on our schedule. That's doesn't mean I don't support Wyoming. It means I'm saving my money for basketball tickets this year and days off for December, January, February, and Vegas instead of September and October like I usually do. It means, I probably won't pay much attention to football unless we go on a winning streak or even win a game.

There's plenty for the writers to cover. I can tell you the articles that you'll see come out before the season starts.

1. Josh Adams the leader
2. Banner hanging ceremony in the AA
3. Florida boys in Wyoming
4. Why Wyoming
5. An article about our assistant coaches and their new contract
6. The positive momentum in our program
7. Expectations with a lot of youth
8. Defending MWC champions
9. What it takes to be champion
10. The tournament run revisited

None of those articles require our team to wear their game jerseys.

No one is saying to abandon football coverage. There IS more than enough of it right now. What I'm saying: it's basketball season. There are a ton of things to talk about. We're hanging a banner.

Let's do this already.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Maybe Gags/Holmgren should talk to a member of a team with a winning percentage higher than .00000000000. I would read that.

I guess they wouldn't be talking to Cowboy hoops either, since they are currently 0-0. The first exhibition game is still a month away. That is plenty of time to get basketball coverage out there.

Part of newsworthiness is timeliness. Cowboy football plays in four days. Cowboy basketball plays in 32 days.

Part of newsworthiness is reality. How many people are clicking on the link to find out about our new walk-on wide receiver(although he is from Cheyenne and may turn out to be one hell of a football player) when our team is 0-5 and has lost to TWO FCS schools, one of them at home?

I get it. They're required to do a certain amount of football during football season, but a vidcast, multiple articles a week, football blogs, twitter full of all the latest information about one of the worst football teams in Wyoming history. It's all over the place.

I know basketball doesn't tip off for a month and a day, but there are plenty of stories they could run that generate a hell of a lot more interest than an article on Air Force cut blocks or a video on Tayton Montgomery(who?). I would rather read about what they're planning on doing to hang the banner that our MWC champion Cowboys brought home from Vegas.

I know they have a minimum requirement they have to meet. I'm just saying, do the minimum for football and maybe do the vidcasts about Josh Adams, or Larry Shyatt, because honestly: there might be about three people(all of them related to Tayton) who want to watch a video with Tayton Montgomery more than a video of Larry Shyatt.

I'm just a little disappointed I keep clicking on their sites and picking up their newspapers and all I see is more garbage about our train wreck football team and the same basketball article that came out on media day a week ago.

Those articles will be written about the team eventually, I wouldn't worry about it. Basketball will get the same treatment football is getting. Actually more, since basketball season is an extra month-plus longer than football.

These same complaints we heard a month before the football season that the team wasn't getting the coverage they deserve. Now they're being covered too much? Like football, it will even out during the season.

 

[CowboyNV]

I keep waiting for those "true fans" to write a "true fan guide" to being a Wyoming Cowboy fan. I've been going to games since the mid-1950's. This is the FIRST year I will not be attending a football game in person (yeah, even though I moved from Wyoming in 1971, I have made it to at least one home game every year since 1957). It's pretty hard for me to justify two airline tickets to Denver, two nights of hotels, rental car, meals, tickets to the game, and parking (+$1200) to watch the demolition of Wyoming football. If I want to see things demolished, I'll just watch the next Strip implosion. Like CJ, I'll save my money and travel to watch the Pokes play basketball this year. I support the kids in brown and gold, but enough is enough with the football program. CB might be the savior of Wyoming football. I'll give him the requisite 6 years to prove it. But in the meantime, I am going to be judicious with my dollars and get the biggest bang for my buck.

There's plenty of room in the papers for stories on football, basketball, volleyball, and any other athletic endeavor in Laramie. I see the same kind of journalistic ass kissing going on that I saw when Heath was laying waste to Cowboy basketball. Shortly after Burman gave the extension to Heath, I wrote Bob Hammond an email and asked him what the fuck was going on in Laramie. He wrote me back and said Heath was a great coach and really going to turn the basketball program around; that I had no business questioning Burman's judgement. Well, we all know how that turned out. Then I watched the same bunch of journalists kiss DC's ass for the next 5 years after he was hired. Now we are on to kissing CB's ass, throwing him softballs in his press conferences, and writing feel good stories instead of asking him why his kids are so undisciplined, why he doesn't have a kicker, why the offensive play calling is so predictable, why he didn't recruit a few more JC defensive players when he knew the cupboard was bare, or any thousand other questions about the shit show he has put on the field this year.

I'll borrow some of CJ's sun screen and join him on the fair weather fan wagon and hope that CB proves me wrong and I eat a huge helping of crow. In the meantime I'll focus more on other more pleasant things like Cowboy basketball. Rant over.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

I keep waiting for those "true fans" to write a "true fan guide" to being a Wyoming Cowboy fan. I've been going to games since the mid-1950's. This is the FIRST year I will not be attending a football game in person (yeah, even though I moved from Wyoming in 1971, I have made it to at least one home game every year since 1957). It's pretty hard for me to justify two airline tickets to Denver, two nights of hotels, rental car, meals, tickets to the game, and parking (+$1200) to watch the demolition of Wyoming football. If I want to see things demolished, I'll just watch the next Strip implosion. Like CJ, I'll save my money and travel to watch the Pokes play basketball this year. I support the kids in brown and gold, but enough is enough with the football program. CB might be the savior of Wyoming football. I'll give him the requisite 6 years to prove it. But in the meantime, I am going to be judicious with my dollars and get the biggest bang for my buck.

There's plenty of room in the papers for stories on football, basketball, volleyball, and any other athletic endeavor in Laramie. I see the same kind of journalistic ass kissing going on that I saw when Heath was laying waste to Cowboy basketball. Shortly after Burman gave the extension to Heath, I wrote Bob Hammond an email and asked him what the fuck was going on in Laramie. He wrote me back and said Heath was a great coach and really going to turn the basketball program around; that I had no business questioning Burman's judgement. Well, we all know how that turned out. Then I watched the same bunch of journalists kiss DC's ass for the next 5 years after he was hired. Now we are on to kissing CB's ass, throwing him softballs in his press conferences, and writing feel good stories instead of asking him why his kids are so undisciplined, why he doesn't have a kicker, why the offensive play calling is so predictable, why he didn't recruit a few more JC defensive players when he knew the cupboard was bare, or any thousand other questions about the shit show he has put on the field this year.

I'll borrow some of CJ's sun screen and join him on the fair weather fan wagon and hope that CB proves me wrong and I eat a huge helping of crow. In the meantime I'll focus more on other more pleasant things like Cowboy basketball. Rant over.

Yep. Me too. We usually have season tickets living four hours away from Laramie. This year I was in Nevada for a funeral or I would have been at the home opener. After that turd in the punch bowl, I decided to watch the next game on t.v. That was even worse. That didn't stop me from trying to watch the next three games on t.v. as well, but I had to turn them off when I realized I have no interest in watching us go winless this year.

I'm like you. I haven't given up on Bohl yet, although I'm close to giving up on Stanard as D.C. He's left our front seven looking like the front seven from Vic Koenning's years. Why didn't we recruit linebackers and defensive linemen in spades last year? That's what this team needs more than anything: a deep, physical front seven. I'm close to giving up on our O.C. Vigen. He has a lot of talent and somehow manages to choke in the red zone. Maybe Jovon Bouknight needs to come back as the o.c. Having said that, I still think Bohl can get it done if we can develop some size and some depth before our program becomes a national laughing stock and recruiting tanks.

I'm over football season and conference play is just getting into full swing.

Basketball has a classy program, a nationally respected coach, and we've already went through four years of rebuilding a shit storm. We've faced adversity and overcome it. The basketball program exemplifies everything I want our kids to be: disciplined, unselfish, humble(mostly), hard working, and Cowboy Tough.

I just want to see some press on this new generation of Poke basketball, because I can't remember our recruiting/coaching/facilities/attendance being this good in a long time. I think we have an NCAA sweet 16 team in Laramie right now. They'll need a couple of years to grow, but I'm super excited about the future of Wyoming hoops. I know a lot of people feel the same way.

I was expecting more articles the day after media day.There we're four I could find online after extensive searching. Four. Nothing has came out in the week since media days. I'm starting to wonder just what the hell the CST and the Cheyenne Tribune Boomerang are telling their guys to cover. I click on both sites everyday and all I see are articles about our young football team.

I'm just excited to start this new chapter, but no one is writing it yet. I can visit our Wyoming online papers and find countless articles about our 0-5 football team. I can barely find anything about the defending MWC champion basketball team.

It just seems odd to me. If I wrote for either of those papers, I would be giving the fans what they want right now: an introduction to the 2015/2016, defending MWC champion, Cowboy basketball team.

 

[seattlecowboy]

One thing I can say about Shyatt's teams is when they play crappy teams from smaller conferences they beat them and usually beat them by double digits. They don't ever lose those games and against better competition they are in the game a lot of time down to the final 5 to 10 minutes if not somehow winning.

Bohl's football teams are reminding me of Heath's basketball teams that lost at home to Hampton by 20 points.

Hope Bohl turns it around but right now I am all about basketball season starting. :thumb:

 

[Cowboy Junky]

One thing I can say about Shyatt's teams is when they play crappy teams from smaller conferences they beat them and usually beat them by double digits. They don't ever lose those games and against better competition they are in the game a lot of time down to the final 5 to 10 minutes if not somehow winning.

Bohl's football teams are reminding me of Heath's basketball teams that lost at home to Hampton by 20 points.

Hope Bohl turns it around but right now I am all about basketball season starting. :thumb:

Agreed. The bad losses make it hard to follow. Schroyer is a pretty good recruiter. He just couldn't coach a lick. I think Bohl is a much better coach, but the first five weeks of this season leave me wondering.

Call me crazy, but if I go out in my back yard: one side of it is covered in dog crap that I need to shovel and the other side is covered in oily Hawaiian tropic girls in bikinis, I'm going to hang out with and look at the girls in bikinis.

What does this have to do with this thread? Give me something pleasant to look at please.

 

[poke_addict]

I agree 100% with Junky. I have been dying, trying to find out whatever I can about the hoops team since summer ball stared. I want to read BASKETBALL not the obituary of football and that's not on the players because the talent is there.

 

[WyoBrandX]

It is just a tad bit too early to think about basketball yet. It is so close, I can taste it too. It would be smart if the reporters started jumping all over the returning Championship basketball team and putting a few articles out. I agree. Football is full swing right now-who knows-football might just turn around and win out! (ok I doubt it - but that would be nice!)

 

[Cowboy Junky]

Holmgren's twitter proves he reads this board.

"Side note: I'm sure you're all dying for a little Pokes basketball coverage. Got two stories planned for later this week. Bear with me."

:thumb: