ESPN Bubble watch on MWC

[BeaverPoke]

I wonder if the committee would consider that Nance wasn't in the Air Force game if they were on the fence. It sounds like they do look at how you finished the season etc

They "say" they look at injuries.

They also "say" the final 10 games don't matter.

I really don't think it's objective by any means. I think we just better hope that half the committee takes into account a strong finish, looks at our losses as Nance-less, and hope we pass their eye tests.

Orrrr.... just win 3 games in 3 nights.

 

[J-Rod]

Everytime my phone beeps with an update that someone posted, and I see J-Rod's name, I automatically associate it with anti Norm Chow sentiment.

It's the off-season, I'll be back.

 

[WYCowboy]

I'll say it again - there is more to scheduling than SOS - much more. If you have a team full of freshmen, you don't go out and schedule all top teams on the road (this is pretty much what UNLV did). If your top player had ACL surgery only 8 months before the season starts, that figures in to it also. If you can't get high rated teams to come play at your place, that figures in to it too.

 

[seattlecowboy]

I'll say it again - there is more to scheduling than SOS - much more. If you have a team full of freshmen, you don't go out and schedule all top teams on the road (this is pretty much what UNLV did). If your top player had ACL surgery only 8 months before the season starts, that figures in to it also. If you can't get high rated teams to come play at your place, that figures in to it too.

I agree with some of what you are saying about this but with as many seniors as we had coming back and even not knowing whether or not Nance was going to be back I think you still have to take a chance on scheduling better teams just in case Nance makes it back otherwise you are kind of hurting yourself from the get go. I also understand it is hard to get teams to come to Laramie and that is why we should have scheduled more roads games against a couple of more teams rated a little bit higher. I know they tried to do it with Cal but think they should have added a couple more .

I know that Shyatt and the other coaches have all been doing this long enough to know that your OOC schedule matters a lot when selection time comes but also they couldn't foresee some of the teams maybe being quite as bad as they were. Anyways it is what it is and we hopefully can win 3 games in 3 nights at the MWC tourney.

 

[McPeachy]

Bottom line?

Win the last four, and we will be in consideration for a bid, with all the outlets / publications. 25 & 6 will get some traction. Yet...that doesn't mean we get in if we shit ourselves in the MWC tourney...there has to be 2 wins there as well IMO.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Vorel just tweeted that in 15 years of MWC play a team has NEVER leapfrogged a team ahead of them in the standings to earn an at-large bid.

That is good news for 2nd place Wyoming. Especially if the MWC is a 2 bid league. Win our last 4 games. Restart for the MWC-Tourney and just focus on beating UNLV for a 2nd time in Vegas as they will likely be the winner of the 7-10 game.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Bottom line?

Win the last four, and we will be in consideration for a bid, with all the outlets / publications. 25 & 6 will get some traction. Yet...that doesn't mean we get in if we shit ourselves in the MWC tourney...there has to be 2 wins there as well IMO.

Yeah I agree. Like you and NowherePoke said if we do win the last 4 and also win 2 in the conference tourney there will probably be a different discussion about us. Right now they probably think we will lose a couple more. Of course even if we do this we will still be one of those teams "hoping" to get our name called on selection Sunday.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Vorel just tweeted that in 15 years of MWC play a team has NEVER leapfrogged a team ahead of them in the standings to earn an at-large bid.

That is good news for 2nd place Wyoming. Especially if the MWC is a 2 bid league. Win our last 4 games. Restart for the MWC-Tourney and just focus on beating UNLV for a 2nd time in Vegas as they will likely be the winner of the 7-10 game.

Yeah but has any team ever had a OOC SOS of 320? I think what may happen is that instead of getting 2 bids they will just leave out CSU, Boise and Wyo.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Vorel just tweeted that in 15 years of MWC play a team has NEVER leapfrogged a team ahead of them in the standings to earn an at-large bid.

That is good news for 2nd place Wyoming. Especially if the MWC is a 2 bid league. Win our last 4 games. Restart for the MWC-Tourney and just focus on beating UNLV for a 2nd time in Vegas as they will likely be the winner of the 7-10 game.

Yeah but has any team ever had a OOC SOS of 320? I think what may happen is that instead of getting 2 bids they will just leave out CSU, Boise and Wyo.

I hear ya, but at this point something has to give.

No MWC team with 25 wins has ever been left out. (We aren't there yet but will be soon).
No OOC SOS with 300+ has ever made it.
No MWC teams leap-frog.

Something is going to give this year.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Vorel just tweeted that in 15 years of MWC play a team has NEVER leapfrogged a team ahead of them in the standings to earn an at-large bid.

That is good news for 2nd place Wyoming. Especially if the MWC is a 2 bid league. Win our last 4 games. Restart for the MWC-Tourney and just focus on beating UNLV for a 2nd time in Vegas as they will likely be the winner of the 7-10 game.

Yeah but has any team ever had a OOC SOS of 320? I think what may happen is that instead of getting 2 bids they will just leave out CSU, Boise and Wyo.

I hear ya, but at this point something has to give.

No MWC team with 25 wins has ever been left out. (We aren't there yet but will be soon).
No OOC SOS with 300+ has ever made it.
No MWC teams leap-frog.

Something is going to give this year.

It will only have a chance at giving if we win the last 4 and 2 in the conference tourney of course. That would be 25 division 1 wins since two of our wins don't count right now because of us playing lower division teams.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Vorel just tweeted that in 15 years of MWC play a team has NEVER leapfrogged a team ahead of them in the standings to earn an at-large bid.

That is good news for 2nd place Wyoming. Especially if the MWC is a 2 bid league. Win our last 4 games. Restart for the MWC-Tourney and just focus on beating UNLV for a 2nd time in Vegas as they will likely be the winner of the 7-10 game.

Yeah but has any team ever had a OOC SOS of 320? I think what may happen is that instead of getting 2 bids they will just leave out CSU, Boise and Wyo.

I hear ya, but at this point something has to give.

No MWC team with 25 wins has ever been left out. (We aren't there yet but will be soon).
No OOC SOS with 300+ has ever made it.
No MWC teams leap-frog.

Something is going to give this year.

It will only have a chance at giving if we win the last 4 and 2 in the conference tourney of course. That would be 25 division 1 wins since two of our wins don't count right now because of us playing lower division teams.

+1

That is the only way I see us getting an at-large. Win the final 4, win 2 in MWC-Tourney. And our loss better be to SDSU. A loss to CSU or Boise MIGHT be acceptable depending on how conference tourneys around the country are panning out, but a loss to like... Air Force or Nevada in the MWC-Championship game would surely seal our fate.

I just want to believe this team is turning the corner right now and is about to add the best player in the MWC to its roster for the final 4 games.
If this team gets in a groove, and with Nance especially... we could make a run. Sweet 16 type run. IF we are clicking right that is.

We aren't at the level of Arizona or Utah where we can "survive" to the Sweet 16. We would need to be playing our best ball.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I think its funny that people are still under the impression we can get an at large bid. THERE IS ZERO CHANCE!!! None. We have to win the tournament. Teams like us don't show up on the bubble after spending the entire season not even near the bubble.

:lol: :tickedoff: :rofl:

 

[stymeman]

I'll be upset if we come up short and not rewarded for a good season on our behalf, but if we go NIT or CBI and there's games in Laramie you betcha I'll still go....it's just disheartening when every 15 years or so we get on the cusp only to get shot down, guess that's call taking care of business at hand, I wonder and only hypothetical if we won all our OOC games and this record stays the same with Conf games we'd be at 23-4 and 9-4 in conf beating SMU and Cal would that have boosted us into the 40's or 50's , SMU's good, Cal's ok, would the RPI jumped up then??? I wonder, I not a mathmatician to figure that out, but makes me wonder

Surprisingly, no. I just ran the RPI wizard with us beating both SMU and CAL, and it only boosted us to 61 in the RPI at this point, with an SOS of 187. Not much better when looking for an at-large bid.

WW

thanks for doing this, just curious, now it's satisfied, still sad, big number RPI's kill to say the least

 

[seattlecowboy]

I think its funny that people are still under the impression we can get an at large bid. THERE IS ZERO CHANCE!!! None. We have to win the tournament. Teams like us don't show up on the bubble after spending the entire season not even near the bubble.

:lol: :tickedoff: :rofl:

I agree for the most part but if Wyoming did win the last 4 games and 2 in the conference tourney with a win over BSU or CSU again and they were going to take 2 teams from the MWC they would possibly take a Wyoming over CSU or BSU because of the fact Wyoming would be 4-0 against them and they have never let a team in the conference leap frog another .

The more likely scenario like you suggest and a few of us have been saying is that they would just leave all of them out and only take SDSU.

The other factor you have to consider though is that the head of the selection committee this year is Utah St.'s athletic director Scott Barnes who will be trying to get as many MWC teams in as possible. So you would think when talking to the other committee members and they were ranking the teams in our conference that if Wyoming won out until the conference tournament championship and we blew out Utah St. at home coming up soon he would most likely tell the committee that Wyoming is the 2nd best team in the conference. That is just another thing that people have forgotten about including myself.

Not saying it will help a lot but you have to factor it in that he knows a lot more about the MWC than the other committee members and could help us get in possibly. Just playing devils advocate here of course as I think we have slim to none chance of an at large bid.

 

[Bryoming]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hDl6OALv4[/youtube]

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I think its funny that people are still under the impression we can get an at large bid. THERE IS ZERO CHANCE!!! None. We have to win the tournament. Teams like us don't show up on the bubble after spending the entire season not even near the bubble.

:lol: :tickedoff: :rofl:

I agree for the most part but if Wyoming did win the last 4 games and 2 in the conference tourney with a win over BSU or CSU again and they were going to take 2 teams from the MWC they would possibly take a Wyoming over CSU or BSU because of the fact Wyoming would be 4-0 against them and they have never let a team in the conference leap frog another .

The more likely scenario like you suggest and a few of us have been saying is that they would just leave all of them out and only take SDSU.

The other factor you have to consider though is that the head of the selection committee this year is Utah St.'s athletic director Scott Barnes who will be trying to get as many MWC teams in as possible. So you would think when talking to the other committee members and they were ranking the teams in our conference that if Wyoming won out until the conference tournament championship and we blew out Utah St. at home coming up soon he would most likely tell the committee that Wyoming is the 2nd best team in the conference. That is just another thing that people have forgotten about including myself.

Not saying it will help a lot but you have to factor it in that he knows a lot more about the MWC than the other committee members and could help us get in possibly. Just playing devils advocate here of course as I think we have slim to none chance of an at large bid.

I didn't know that. That would certainly help, but I think we all get left out unless someone other than SDSU wins the tournament. I don't necessarily see CSU leapfrogging us but wouldnt be shocked either. Lets just leave nothing to chance and win it all

 

[stymeman]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hDl6OALv4[/youtube]

how funny I was thinking i heard a quote from a movie saying to win the whole f=%*%ing thing and here it is, thanks

 

[Wyo2dal]

The only way this team would have gotten an at large bid is to be undefeated OOC.

 

[NowherePoke]

The only way this team would have gotten an at large bid is to be undefeated OOC.

Probably true, but winning the regular season outright at 15-3 or 16-2 (not unprecedented, SDSU was 16-2 last year) probably would have worked as well.

All in the past now though.

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hDl6OALv4[/youtube]

LOVE that movie! Perfect pull here too WYO1016....this is exactly where we are at. Backs up against the wall and out to prove the world wrong. WIN THE WHOLE FUCKING THING!