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[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

CSU gets TONS of cred because their OOC is slightly less shitty than ours? It still make no sense to me. If they lost any one of their OOC games it would have been considered a 'bad' loss.

and Boise challenged themselves a little, but still lost! I still don't get it

Slightly less shitty? We are complaining about their schedule because they played teams with 10-17 records.

We played teams that are 1-23, 8-19, 6-20 (twice), and two teams that aren't even D-1.

It's not that CSU's OOC schedule was "special", it is that ours was embarrassingly bad.

Also, losing to quality opponents is different than losing to Air Force by more than 20 points.

Those D-2 games don't count in RPI or SOS which is why we schedule them (in theory instead of 300+ RPI teams but that didn't happen this year)

I'm in total agreement that these d-2 games have to stop. They do NOTHING for us. I'd rather schedule SJSU another game if I wanted one more scrimmage....FUCK

If our OOC is going to weigh heavier than our conference record, we have to quit scheduling cupcakes. I would rather go on the road and lose to Illinois State or Iowa than to blow out Stetson at home. If our coaches, players, athletic dept. heads want NCAA tournaments births, lets start making it a little easier on ourselves. Lets schedule some games that matter early on.

 

[stymeman]

CSU gets TONS of cred because their OOC is slightly less shitty than ours? It still make no sense to me. If they lost any one of their OOC games it would have been considered a 'bad' loss.

and Boise challenged themselves a little, but still lost! I still don't get it

Slightly less shitty? We are complaining about their schedule because they played teams with 10-17 records.

We played teams that are 1-23, 8-19, 6-20 (twice), and two teams that aren't even D-1.

It's not that CSU's OOC schedule was "special", it is that ours was embarrassingly bad.

Also, losing to quality opponents is different than losing to Air Force by more than 20 points.

Those D-2 games don't count in RPI or SOS which is why we schedule them (in theory instead of 300+ RPI teams but that didn't happen this year)

I'm in total agreement that these d-2 games have to stop. They do NOTHING for us. I'd rather schedule SJSU another game if I wanted one more scrimmage....FUCK

If our OOC is going to weigh heavier than our conference record, we have to quit scheduling cupcakes. I would rather go on the road and lose to Illinois State or Iowa than to blow out Stetson at home. If our coaches, players, athletic dept. heads want NCAA tournaments births, lets start making it a little easier on ourselves. Lets schedule some games that matter early on.

I have to agree, instead of playing 14 games at home with lesser teams that really don't want to come to Laramie anyway, I'll be happy to go to Gonzaga, Ariz St, UCLA, take our lumps and learn from that loss, but it wouldn't make an exciting season of winning against pattsies to go all for naught in the end of the season like we're experiencing now
LET'S MARCH ON TO THE TOURNEY AND WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING

 

[bladerunnr]

csewe beat San diego State. That helps their resume a lot. I still think if we can tie for the regular season conference title, that might get us in. However, if any team other than us or San diego st. wins the tournament, then we are probably out.

 

[seattlecowboy]

CSU gets TONS of cred because their OOC is slightly less shitty than ours? It still make no sense to me. If they lost any one of their OOC games it would have been considered a 'bad' loss.

and Boise challenged themselves a little, but still lost! I still don't get it

Slightly less shitty? We are complaining about their schedule because they played teams with 10-17 records.

We played teams that are 1-23, 8-19, 6-20 (twice), and two teams that aren't even D-1.

It's not that CSU's OOC schedule was "special", it is that ours was embarrassingly bad.

Also, losing to quality opponents is different than losing to Air Force by more than 20 points.

Those D-2 games don't count in RPI or SOS which is why we schedule them (in theory instead of 300+ RPI teams but that didn't happen this year)

I'm in total agreement that these d-2 games have to stop. They do NOTHING for us. I'd rather schedule SJSU another game if I wanted one more scrimmage....FUCK

If our OOC is going to weigh heavier than our conference record, we have to quit scheduling cupcakes. I would rather go on the road and lose to Illinois State or Iowa than to blow out Stetson at home. If our coaches, players, athletic dept. heads want NCAA tournaments births, lets start making it a little easier on ourselves. Lets schedule some games that matter early on.

Yeah I agree with this. Seems we are getting good enough players now with this incoming class that we need to start scheduling up a little bit more and play some tough road games even if they are losses . Will make us better for the conference season anyways and our SOS won't look so bad.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

CSU gets TONS of cred because their OOC is slightly less shitty than ours? It still make no sense to me. If they lost any one of their OOC games it would have been considered a 'bad' loss.

and Boise challenged themselves a little, but still lost! I still don't get it

Slightly less shitty? We are complaining about their schedule because they played teams with 10-17 records.

We played teams that are 1-23, 8-19, 6-20 (twice), and two teams that aren't even D-1.

It's not that CSU's OOC schedule was "special", it is that ours was embarrassingly bad.

Also, losing to quality opponents is different than losing to Air Force by more than 20 points.

Those D-2 games don't count in RPI or SOS which is why we schedule them (in theory instead of 300+ RPI teams but that didn't happen this year)

I'm in total agreement that these d-2 games have to stop. They do NOTHING for us. I'd rather schedule SJSU another game if I wanted one more scrimmage....FUCK

If our OOC is going to weigh heavier than our conference record, we have to quit scheduling cupcakes. I would rather go on the road and lose to Illinois State or Iowa than to blow out Stetson at home. If our coaches, players, athletic dept. heads want NCAA tournaments births, lets start making it a little easier on ourselves. Lets schedule some games that matter early on.

I have to agree, instead of playing 14 games at home with lesser teams that really don't want to come to Laramie anyway, I'll be happy to go to Gonzaga, Ariz St, UCLA, take our lumps and learn from that loss, but it wouldn't make an exciting season of winning against pattsies to go all for naught in the end of the season like we're experiencing now
LET'S MARCH ON TO THE TOURNEY AND WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING

No doubt. It is obvious that a beating from Arizona will help us FAR more than the crap wins we had this OOC. Who decides who we schedule? Is it Shyatts decision exclusively? Does Burman have input? How do we change the mindset going forward?

 

[seattlecowboy]

csewe beat San diego State. That helps their resume a lot. I still think if we can tie for the regular season conference title, that might get us in. However, if any team other than us or San diego st. wins the tournament, then we are probably out.

Yeah that is the main reason honestly that CSU and Boise St. are in the conversation right now and we aren't is because both of them beat SDSU and we didn't.

 

[TSpoke]

CSU gets TONS of cred because their OOC is slightly less shitty than ours? It still make no sense to me. If they lost any one of their OOC games it would have been considered a 'bad' loss.

and Boise challenged themselves a little, but still lost! I still don't get it

Slightly less shitty? We are complaining about their schedule because they played teams with 10-17 records.

We played teams that are 1-23, 8-19, 6-20 (twice), and two teams that aren't even D-1.

It's not that CSU's OOC schedule was "special", it is that ours was embarrassingly bad.

Also, losing to quality opponents is different than losing to Air Force by more than 20 points.

Those D-2 games don't count in RPI or SOS which is why we schedule them (in theory instead of 300+ RPI teams but that didn't happen this year)

I'm in total agreement that these d-2 games have to stop. They do NOTHING for us. I'd rather schedule SJSU another game if I wanted one more scrimmage....FUCK

No. Exactly the opposite. scheduling SJSU another time would hurt our RPI while D-2 games don't hurt or help us. If you replaced one of our D-2 games with SJSU our RPI would be even lower. Thats the reason we play them, they don't hurt our RPI.

 

[stymeman]

its sad that no one wants to come to Laramie at all, I give it up those that schedule with us during ooc, but we have to step this up. it's really a travasty that we go 21-6 and it really means nothing, guess the new magic number is 25 and even then that may not work....still a good season for us no matter what the RPI lovers say!!!

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

its sad that no one wants to come to Laramie at all, I give it up those that schedule with us during ooc, but we have to step this up. it's really a travasty that we go 21-6 and it really means nothing, guess the new magic number is 25 and even then that may not work....still a good season for us no matter what the RPI lovers say!!!

To a point...I think most every team in the country would say anything other than a NCAA appearance is a lost season...I like where were at as a program, as a team, and as a university but if we miss the Tourney it will be a disappointing season.

 

[J-Rod]

Wyoming needs to work on scheduling home-and-homes with solid programs that aren't necessarily carrying the same ego as some Pac-12/Big XII programs. Schedule Wichita State, Creighton, Gonzaga, Virginia Commonwealth, Butler, etc. Programs who bring a solid RPI, but might actually come to Laramie. SMU was a solid series.

Ultimately, like NowherePoke said, UW's biggest issue is scheduling too many lower level opponents. You either need to schedule really low (NAIA/DII) so those games don't count, or quit scheduling horrible RPI DI programs like FAMU and Stetson. Montana State twice? Come on.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Wyoming needs to work on scheduling home-and-homes with solid programs that aren't necessarily carrying the same ego as some Pac-12/Big XII programs. Schedule Wichita State, Creighton, Gonzaga, Virginia Commonwealth, Butler, etc. Programs who bring a solid RPI, but might actually come to Laramie. SMU was a solid series.

Ultimately, like NowherePoke said, UW's biggest issue is scheduling too many lower level opponents. You either need to schedule really low (NAIA/DII) so those games don't count, or quit scheduling horrible RPI DI programs like FAMU and Stetson. Montana State twice? Come on.

I was literally just thinking about this. It would be an insane game.

 

[djm19]

Everytime my phone beeps with an update that someone posted, and I see J-Rod's name, I automatically associate it with anti Norm Chow sentiment.

 

[stymeman]

I'll be upset if we come up short and not rewarded for a good season on our behalf, but if we go NIT or CBI and there's games in Laramie you betcha I'll still go....it's just disheartening when every 15 years or so we get on the cusp only to get shot down, guess that's call taking care of business at hand, I wonder and only hypothetical if we won all our OOC games and this record stays the same with Conf games we'd be at 23-4 and 9-4 in conf beating SMU and Cal would that have boosted us into the 40's or 50's , SMU's good, Cal's ok, would the RPI jumped up then??? I wonder, I not a mathmatician to figure that out, but makes me wonder

 

[stymeman]

Wyoming needs to work on scheduling home-and-homes with solid programs that aren't necessarily carrying the same ego as some Pac-12/Big XII programs. Schedule Wichita State, Creighton, Gonzaga, Virginia Commonwealth, Butler, etc. Programs who bring a solid RPI, but might actually come to Laramie. SMU was a solid series.

Ultimately, like NowherePoke said, UW's biggest issue is scheduling too many lower level opponents. You either need to schedule really low (NAIA/DII) so those games don't count, or quit scheduling horrible RPI DI programs like FAMU and Stetson. Montana State twice? Come on.

I was literally just thinking about this. It would be an insane game.

you bring up good points, being in a geographically area, CU wont play us anymore, could we get Nebraska once in awhile?? Utah or BYU??? other than that the other states that touch Wyoming aren't too reassuring either....hence further travel for other teams and us to go to

 

[pokefanchaz7]

I think nit is most likely scenario if we don't win the tourney.

Cbi would be an epic fail.

 

[WilyWapiti]

I'll be upset if we come up short and not rewarded for a good season on our behalf, but if we go NIT or CBI and there's games in Laramie you betcha I'll still go....it's just disheartening when every 15 years or so we get on the cusp only to get shot down, guess that's call taking care of business at hand, I wonder and only hypothetical if we won all our OOC games and this record stays the same with Conf games we'd be at 23-4 and 9-4 in conf beating SMU and Cal would that have boosted us into the 40's or 50's , SMU's good, Cal's ok, would the RPI jumped up then??? I wonder, I not a mathmatician to figure that out, but makes me wonder

Surprisingly, no. I just ran the RPI wizard with us beating both SMU and CAL, and it only boosted us to 61 in the RPI at this point, with an SOS of 187. Not much better when looking for an at-large bid.

WW

 

[djm19]

As much as our crappy OOC schedule was, it is so hard to predict. Many of our losses weren't just losses, but fugly losses.

SMU is decent. Not a terrible L
CU blows so that win was meh looking back
New Mex State will prob represent WAC in tourney
Cal loss was bad

Swept by SDSU. One of which was a Kimbo Slice beatdown
Smoked by USU and Air Farce were horrible

I don't know, still pisses me off that we could finish with 25 wins and not go to big tourney.

But, like I have said all year. We have to win the outright conf title or the MWC tourney to get in. Remains true.

 

[seattlecowboy]

I'll be upset if we come up short and not rewarded for a good season on our behalf, but if we go NIT or CBI and there's games in Laramie you betcha I'll still go....it's just disheartening when every 15 years or so we get on the cusp only to get shot down, guess that's call taking care of business at hand, I wonder and only hypothetical if we won all our OOC games and this record stays the same with Conf games we'd be at 23-4 and 9-4 in conf beating SMU and Cal would that have boosted us into the 40's or 50's , SMU's good, Cal's ok, would the RPI jumped up then??? I wonder, I not a mathmatician to figure that out, but makes me wonder

Surprisingly, no. I just ran the RPI wizard with us beating both SMU and CAL, and it only boosted us to 61 in the RPI at this point, with an SOS of 187. Not much better when looking for an at-large bid.

WW

This is true but the SMU win on the road would actually be a huge boost for us because it would show we went on the road an won a game against and RPI top 50 team which counts for a lot when the selection process takes place. OOC SOS is very important and also winning road or neutral OOC games against RPI top 50 teams. So while that win wouldn't have put us in the tournament for sure it would have made us in the conversation a lot more as a bubble team right now.

 

[laxwyo]

I wonder if the committee would consider that Nance wasn't in the Air Force game if they were on the fence. It sounds like they do look at how you finished the season etc

 

[TSpoke]

I wonder if the committee would consider that Nance wasn't in the Air Force game if they were on the fence. It sounds like they do look at how you finished the season etc

It has been said they take injuries into account. So yes it will help us out some but even if that was a win we still wouldn't be in yet. Need to finish strong.