Early lines are out: We are +11 vs. Air Force

[JimmyDimes]

Air Force is beatable. Just think if we didn't have a 5 minute lapse during the Texas game. Air Force was down by 20 or more going into the 4th quarter at Oklahoma and scored twice in the 4th to make it more respectable. I think Texas is better than Oklahoma, so who knows.

Boise was just a bad game folks. We are better than we played and gave them as much as they gave themselves. We allowed some big plays, but after rewatching the game, we played well at times too. Who knows how much the death of Ruben, etc. played into their minds.....it just wasn't a good game for the Pokes.

Wyoming 31
Air Force 28

 

[ELKMT]

Boise was just a bad game folks. We are better than we played and gave them as much as they gave themselves. We allowed some big plays, but after rewatching the game, we played well at times too. Who knows how much the death of Ruben, etc. played into their minds.....it just wasn't a good game for the Pokes.

Wyoming 31
Air Force 28

I agree with you Jimmy. Boise also had a by week to prepare it is similar to the BYU game from last year, except Boise didn't lose the week before. However, Boise still had a chip on their shoulder after V Tech got beat by a 1AA team. I think we play better and come out with a close win.

Wyoming 28
Air Force 21

 

[JimmyDimes]

I agree with you Jimmy. Boise also had a by week to prepare it is similar to the BYU game from last year, except Boise didn't lose the week before. However, Boise still had a chip on their shoulder after V Tech got beat by a 1AA team. I think we play better and come out with a close win.

Wyoming 28
Air Force 21

Based on what I saw on the field, it was a combination of Boise having time to prep and Wyoming playing to lose.....we had some missed opportunities and some untimely turnovers.

I was looking at the Texas vs Texas Tech box score. Tech beat New Mexico something like 58-14. Against Texas, Tech had NEGATIVE yards rushing and a total of 165 yards overall.....Texas doubled that. Wyoming had over 250 yards and about 100 less in total than Texas. This is just for comparison purposes.

 

[kansasCowboy]

Also, SDSU has yet to playa Defense with a pulse. Nichols St. Come on, last year AF beat these guys 72-0. New Mexico St. Anybody beats these guys. And they look good when doing it too. Missou is not that good on D. Yeah, they held Mcneese to 6 points. but We saw how an avg SDSU Offense ran against them, plus the bottom feeder Illinois busted out 200 yards rushing on them as well. Now they play Utah St. A team ranked second to last in total D last year and it isn't looking any better this year. BYU will test them , AF will destroy them and We will play good against them too.
Numbers don't count for nothing when you play a pussy schedule like SDSU's.

 

[mrtnt3x]

Numbers don't count for nothing when you play a pussy schedule like SDSU's.

Their football schedule is similar to our mens basketball schedule! :tickedoff:

Bullshit in my book, they will be 3-1 heading into conference play and will beat UNM, CSU, and UNLV and go bowling. No doubt about it! :brick:

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Numbers don't count for nothing when you play a pussy schedule like SDSU's.

Their football schedule is similar to our mens basketball schedule! :tickedoff:

Bullshit in my book, they will be 3-1 heading into conference play and will beat UNM, CSU, and UNLV and go bowling. No doubt about it! :brick:

We played Weber State and Florida Atlantic last season, and it's not like CU is a power house team either, especially since they lost to CSU and Toledo. Our only quality OOC opponent was Texas.

So... we did the same thing. At least they scheduled an auto-qualifier team that at the time they were scheduled likely was a top 10 team in the nation.

 

[mrtnt3x]

Numbers don't count for nothing when you play a pussy schedule like SDSU's.

Their football schedule is similar to our mens basketball schedule! :tickedoff:

Bullshit in my book, they will be 3-1 heading into conference play and will beat UNM, CSU, and UNLV and go bowling. No doubt about it! :brick:

We played Weber State and Florida Atlantic last season, and it's not like CU is a power house team either, especially since they lost to CSU and Toledo. Our only quality OOC opponent was Texas.

So... we did the same thing. At least they scheduled an auto-qualifier team that at the time they were scheduled likely was a top 10 team in the nation.

Everyteam should get one FCS school, FAU went to and beat Central Michigan in a Bowl Game the year before we played them, CU is still a BCS conference team and both of those games were on the road, one clear across the freakin country. SDSU has Nichols St. at home, their one allowed FCS school for the year, NMSU on the road which isn't that far of a plane ride and who should be FCS and whom hasn't been good in a long time (won 14 games since 2005). USU at home which is a team getting better but not there yet. Finaly Missouri whom will get 3rd in the Big 12 north this year as their only quality oponent. I don't see the similarities in schedules especially this year and coming years.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Everyteam should get one FCS school, FAU went to and beat Central Michigan in a Bowl Game the year before we played them, CU is still a BCS conference team and both of those games were on the road, one clear across the freakin country. SDSU has Nichols St. at home, their one allowed FCS school for the year, NMSU on the road which isn't that far of a plane ride and who should be FCS and whom hasn't been good in a long time (won 14 games since 2005). USU at home which is a team getting better but not there yet. Finaly Missouri whom will get 3rd in the Big 12 north this year as their only quality oponent. I don't see the similarities in schedules especially this year and coming years.

Look at the quality of opponents when the games were scheduled instead. Then Mizzou is a top 10 team in the nation all of a sudden. The difference really isn't that big. If you say NMSU should be FCS, then you can make the same argument about two of our wins from last season - CSU and Lobos. The fact is - they're not FCS, but that doesn't make them good teams (currently).

It just sounds extremely hypocritical to me to judge them for their schedule just because we happen to play a couple of highly ranked teams now. Also, when we won the Las Vegas Bowl, we played Louisiana-Monroe and Appalachian State on an 11 game schedule.

It really only comes down to one thing: Win our games. Worry less about what other teams do until there's reason to. SDSU is a better team than us right now. Watching parts of the Mizzou game made that rather obvious. I'm not sure UNLV isn't a better team as well. We have plenty of promise, but promise means nothing if you can't execute by successfully tackling, blocking, making sound decisions, and catching passes. Right now, we stink at all of those.

 

[calpoke25]

I don't get the hate for SDSU's schedule. I really like it for where their program is and wish ours was closer to theirs. You need to learn to walk before you can run, and SDSU's schedule is a perfect example of that.

 

[kansasCowboy]

I don't get the hate for SDSU's schedule. I really like it for where their program is and wish ours was closer to theirs. You need to learn to walk before you can run, and SDSU's schedule is a perfect example of that.

Perfect example of getting a few wins against a few nobodies and then getting your butts handed to you in conference play.
Their schedule this year reminds me of Wyoming's schedule in 2005 when we went 4-7. Played Florida and lost, then beat four teams that we could handle and then lost six straight to finish off the year. It doesn't help. you get over confident in what you are doing and then you actually play competition. SDSU has played teams with no D that's all I said. When they play a team with even a mediocre D this year, watch them struggle.
I for one would rather watch Wyoming play and attempt to win games against quality opponents than to sit and watch them beat up on schools that are worse than they are. This happened in 1996, remember? We had a great season, the opponents were nobody special and we had very little attendance for most home games. But we got 10 wins! Great! What happened? Because we didn't schedule anybody good we were snubbed out of a bowl game. Figure that happening for SDSU if they can win 6 or more. Seriously, if Wyoming won 6 games, and SDSU wins 6 games by the end of the year,looking at their schedules, who would make it to a bowl? More than likely Wyoming.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Seriously, if Wyoming won 6 games, and SDSU wins 6 games by the end of the year,looking at their schedules, who would make it to a bowl? More than likely Wyoming.

The team the bowl selection committee believes will bring in more money/fans/viewers, that's who they'll select. Remember when the New Mexico Bowl picked New Mexico over Wyoming despite Wyoming actually beating New Mexico that year?

 

[mrtnt3x]

That was the inagural (sp) New Mexico Bowl so of course they took there own team we got snubbed

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

That was the inagural (sp) New Mexico Bowl so of course they took there own team we got snubbed

Given the choice between us or BYU then, who do you think they'd take? Identical records, but us having the tougher schedule.

I can pretty much guarantee you that it'll be BYU, nevertheless.

 

[ELKMT]

Everyone who makes bowl eligiblity will likely make a bowl now, so it doesn't hurt to play a weak schedule.

 

[mrtnt3x]

That was the inagural (sp) New Mexico Bowl so of course they took there own team we got snubbed

Given the choice between us or BYU then, who do you think they'd take? Identical records, but us having the tougher schedule.

I can pretty much guarantee you that it'll be BYU, nevertheless.

Sad but true but BYU has their own bowl in Vegas

 

[kansasCowboy]

Okay. this was about SDSU. Now we're on BYU? BYU has a better fan base than both WYO and sdsu combined. So between the two closer related schools again. Sdsu or WYO, it would probably be WYO.
And you got it right, the only reason UNM got the bowl over us was because it was their bowl game. Cheap? Very much so. But when it comes to a good crowd, WYO has Sdsu Whooped!

 

[calpoke25]

Perfect example of getting a few wins against a few nobodies and then getting your butts handed to you in conference play.
Their schedule this year reminds me of Wyoming's schedule in 2005 when we went 4-7. Played Florida and lost, then beat four teams that we could handle and then lost six straight to finish off the year. It doesn't help. you get over confident in what you are doing and then you actually play competition. SDSU has played teams with no D that's all I said. When they play a team with even a mediocre D this year, watch them struggle.
I for one would rather watch Wyoming play and attempt to win games against quality opponents than to sit and watch them beat up on schools that are worse than they are. This happened in 1996, remember? We had a great season, the opponents were nobody special and we had very little attendance for most home games. But we got 10 wins! Great! What happened? Because we didn't schedule anybody good we were snubbed out of a bowl game. Figure that happening for SDSU if they can win 6 or more. Seriously, if Wyoming won 6 games, and SDSU wins 6 games by the end of the year,looking at their schedules, who would make it to a bowl? More than likely Wyoming.

I'm not exactly sure of what your argument is.

1996 is the last truly rememberable year in Cowboy Football, the last time we ever finished ranked or nationally relevant, one of our very few 10 win seasons, also one of the only times we have finished ranked in the last 40 years, and now you're harping on them for their schedule? Times have changed a bit in the bowl picture since then, so comparing bowl situations to now isn't really relevant either. And by the way the 1996 team wasn't left out of a bowl game because of its strength of schedule.

The judge is still out on how SDSU is going to do in conference this year, I think its a little premature to say they're going to get their butts handed to them. I guarantee you teams are currently fearing SDSU more than they fear us. I'm also not sure on what your point is on both WYO and SDSU finishing with 6 wins.. ok both will get a bowl, SDSU likely the Poinsetta and WYO the NM again. So whats your point?

I don't want Wyoming to schedule purely MAC teams, but you also aren't going to build a winning mentality in the program simply getting your butt handed to you OOC. My ideal OOC schedule would be one top 15 team, one mid-low level BCS team, one FBS game we should win (Toledo) and one FCS game although I hate FCS games altogether.

 

[kansasCowboy]

I'm not exactly sure of what your argument is.

1996 is the last truly rememberable year in Cowboy Football, the last time we ever finished ranked or nationally relevant, one of our very few 10 win seasons, also one of the only times we have finished ranked in the last 40 years, and now you're harping on them for their schedule? Times have changed a bit in the bowl picture since then, so comparing bowl situations to now isn't really relevant either. And by the way the 1996 team wasn't left out of a bowl game because of its strength of schedule.

The judge is still out on how SDSU is going to do in conference this year, I think its a little premature to say they're going to get their butts handed to them. I guarantee you teams are currently fearing SDSU more than they fear us. I'm also not sure on what your point is on both WYO and SDSU finishing with 6 wins.. ok both will get a bowl, SDSU likely the Poinsetta and WYO the NM again. So whats your point?

I don't want Wyoming to schedule purely MAC teams, but you also aren't going to build a winning mentality in the program simply getting your butt handed to you OOC. My ideal OOC schedule would be one top 15 team, one mid-low level BCS team, one FBS game we should win (Toledo) and one FCS game although I hate FCS games altogether.

Dude, I'm not harping on Wyoming at all. I absolutely loved that team. I went to all but two home games that year and watched three games on tv. I followed them with a passion. But, I will harp on what we have always harped on. The simple fact that we didn't get a bowl. Now I don't know who you talked to to find out that SOS wasn't a factor. But I do know who I talked to. My cousin whom I married into the family. He owned the Aloha bowl. Built it and sold it when it became the Hawaii Sheritan Bowl. He told me that he and many other owners of bowls would meet to discuss how they continued success with their own bowl games. He happened to be in a meeting with the owners of the Holiday bowl, Copper Bowl and Cotton Bowl that year. The same three bowls that were considered for Wyoming. He told me that rankings had little to do with it when picking teams for your bowl game. He said that they went off of Attendance (1996 attend was averaging well under 20k) They went off of what league you played in (Wac was not a premier league at the time.) And they went off of who you played and who you beat that year. Here's what he showed me. Wyoming's opponents combined record for regular season play was 46-79. The team that took Wyoming's place in the bowl (Utah 8-3 that year) their opponents rec. 62-63. He looked me square in the eye and said, "which is better represented as a good program? Utah's." Wyoming went 3-2 against team with a winning record; beat 6-5 Idaho by 2, beating 6-5 AF by 3, losing by 4 to SDSU, beating 7-5 CSU by 1, and losing to 14-1 BYU. We did got undefeated against the losing teams on our schedule. but their records were abysmal to say the least; 2-9, 2-9, 2-10, 1-11, 3-9, 4-7, 5-6. Kind of sums it up. Also Attendance, we were winning and no one was coming. No body wanted to watch Wyo beat up on Idaho, or Western Mich. or SMU. We were under 20 k avg for the year. Utah however brought in an avg of 30 k that year. That's what broke the Cowboys.
I don't harp on my Cowboys. I harp on the system. And you can't say that if both go 6-6 this year we'll both go to a bowl. The MWC is guaranteed only 5 bowls this year. Utah, AF, TCU, BYU, either SDSU or WYO? And this happened before with UNM. We beat them, were higher in the standings, and they got the bowl and we were left out. I'm not sure what your argument is? Other than you were saying I was harping on the Cowboys when I was harping on SDSU stupid schedule. Everyone on here turned it into something else. Do me a favor and actually read what I write, Please?

 

[Wyo2dal]

Semi early game tomorrow does everyone has access to watch it or should I get everything setup for those poor souls with access to it?

 

[ELKMT]

Wyodal I don't have access I would appreciate your help. Thanks a ton for doin this for all us.