Do you guys think our RBs are legit?

[cowboyz]

The Increased tempo should help the line as we should be the most conditioned line in the conference. This should help hide some of the deficiencies by wearing out the d giving the backs some more room to run. This is of course we are not in 2-9 and 3-8 every series.

So you think that by having such a fast tempo we don't really give the D-lines we play enough time to show how bad our O-line is?

I am saying that our conditioning should be better then the opponents and should be able to get them on their heels a little bit. Again we cannot be in 2nd and 3rd and long and getting predictable or relying on oh shit right or oh shit left by Smith.

Why do you say our conditioning should be better than our opponents? Unless we have something going on that I haven't heard to make the boys into supermen, other than the fact that in practice we are running players in and out in mass chaos, between plays. Hopefully that will be the conditioning edge. I am assuming the other teams will all be hitting the gym and the track just as much as us, and dare I say it, but some even more!

Remember, last season we told that we had our fastest and deepest team in the past 5 years. We saw how that went.

 

[JimmyDimes]

The Increased tempo should help the line as we should be the most conditioned line in the conference. This should help hide some of the deficiencies by wearing out the d giving the backs some more room to run. This is of course we are not in 2-9 and 3-8 every series.

So you think that by having such a fast tempo we don't really give the D-lines we play enough time to show how bad our O-line is?

I am saying that our conditioning should be better then the opponents and should be able to get them on their heels a little bit. Again we cannot be in 2nd and 3rd and long and getting predictable or relying on oh shit right or oh shit left by Smith.

Why do you say our conditioning should be better than our opponents? Unless we have something going on that I haven't heard to make the boys into supermen, other than the fact that in practice we are running players in and out in mass chaos, between plays. Hopefully that will be the conditioning edge. I am assuming the other teams will all be hitting the gym and the track just as much as us, and dare I say it, but some even more!

Remember, last season we told that we had our fastest and deepest team in the past 5 years. We saw how that went.

There is a reason many endurance athletes, etc train at high altitude. And, we were deeper and faster in most positions...except QB. If Smith doesn't get hurt we're coming off an 8-4 season.

 

[BeaverPoke]

If Smith doesn't get hurt we're coming off an 8-4 season.

Careful, don't want people to start calling you BeaverPoke.
Comments like that are not acceptable on this board where only negativity flies!

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

There is a reason many endurance athletes, etc train at high altitude. And, we were deeper and faster in most positions...except QB. If Smith doesn't get hurt we're coming off an 8-4 season.

Yeah, but football isn't an endurance sport. The whole altitude thing mainly affects aerobic athletes. It works to our advantage in a psychological sort of way more so than it does physiologically.

I agree we very well could have finished 8-4 with Smith the entire season. The games he missed were tight, very tight. We also could have finished 8-4 with a defense that didn't wear skirts. Haha...for real though.

 

[WyoAlum1987]

If Smith doesn't get hurt we're coming off an 8-4 season.

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Comments like that are not acceptable on this board where only negativity flies!

Boy, if you are going to be a full-time sunshine pumper, you better grow thicker skin. Sunshine pumpers dont whine...aint becoming

 

[cowboyz]

If Smith doesn't get hurt we're coming off an 8-4 season.

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Comments like that are not acceptable on this board where only negativity flies!

I don't see where we find 8 wins with a healthy Smith all year. I'll give you Cal Poly, but the other games, no guarantees. Toledo he played all but the last series. It's not like we score every time we had/have the ball. Air Force was a loss, but Thompson put up Smith like numbers, so that could have ended the same way that it did. And he played in the other losses.

I don't think this board is only negative. Sure we all throw out our opinions, as that is what this is for. I get down on things, but this being a RB thread, I'll mention that after this past season I posted that I feel we could have a 1,000 rusher this season to compliment Brett.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

If Smith doesn't get hurt we're coming off an 8-4 season.

Careful, don't want people to start calling you BeaverPoke.
Comments like that are not acceptable on this board where only negativity flies!

I don't see where we find 8 wins with a healthy Smith all year. I'll give you Cal Poly, but the other games, no guarantees. Toledo he played all but the last series. It's not like we score every time we had/have the ball. Air Force was a loss, but Thompson put up Smith like numbers, so that could have ended the same way that it did. And he played in the other losses.

Good point, our offense looked pretty good against AFA. Toledo could've went either way even with Smith.

Against Nevada though, we had the lead early in the 4th when we lost him and Thompson accounted for 10 yards the rest of the entire game. I say we win that one too. At least 6-6.

 

[BeaverPoke]

I totally disagree about Air Force. We lost by 1 point with a back up in. Thompson showed in that game he is kinda good, but he did not do anything to make us believe Smith wouldn't have done better.
Thompsons numbers from that game were: 23/36 195 yards 1 TD with 75 rush yards on 16 attempts. A total of 270 yards and 1 TD.
Not bad by any means but Smith wins us that game. He probably doesn't get as many rush yards, but tears AFA up through the air. The longest pass in that game was 19 yards to Rufran. Everything all day was short little passes.

Against Texas Smith put up 276 pass yards alone, along with 18 rush yards and 2 TDs in the air.
Against Boise St. Smith had a game similar to Thompsons AFA game, going 24/35 and putting up 216 pass yards, and Smith ran for 9 more yards and scored twice on the ground. And that was when the season was already complete shit.

Thompson wasn't bad against AFA, but Smith in that game, and we probably win by 13 points honestly. Call that me being a homer, but it's not, that is being realistic. AFA does not beat us with Smith in. Neither does Cal Poly (Thompson beats Cal Poly easily as well). Nevada doesn't beat us if Smith stays in, as someone pointed out the 10 yards that Thompson accounted for after Smith was ejected. Toledo...toss up. Wyo is 7-5 with Smith in.

And one more thing, Thompson accounted for 1 TD against AFA. Throughout Brett Smiths career he has had multiple TDs in all but 3 games, all when he was a freshman.
@ Bowling Green.
@Utah State.
@Boise State.

 

[cowboyz]

I totally disagree about Air Force. We lost by 1 point with a back up in. Thompson showed in that game he is kinda good, but he did not do anything to make us believe Smith wouldn't have done better.
Thompsons numbers from that game were: 23/36 195 yards 1 TD with 75 rush yards on 16 attempts. A total of 270 yards and 1 TD.
Not bad by any means but Smith wins us that game. He probably doesn't get as many rush yards, but tears AFA up through the air. The longest pass in that game was 19 yards to Rufran. Everything all day was short little passes.

Against Texas Smith put up 276 pass yards alone, along with 18 rush yards and 2 TDs in the air.
Against Boise St. Smith had a game similar to Thompsons AFA game, going 24/35 and putting up 216 pass yards, and Smith ran for 9 more yards and scored twice on the ground. And that was when the season was already complete shit.

Thompson wasn't bad against AFA, but Smith in that game, and we probably win by 13 points honestly. Call that me being a homer, but it's not, that is being realistic. AFA does not beat us with Smith in. Neither does Cal Poly (Thompson beats Cal Poly easily as well). Nevada doesn't beat us if Smith stays in, as someone pointed out the 10 yards that Thompson accounted for after Smith was ejected. Toledo...toss up. Wyo is 7-5 with Smith in.

And one more thing, Thompson accounted for 1 TD against AFA. Throughout Brett Smiths career he has had multiple TDs in all but 3 games, all when he was a freshman.
@ Bowling Green.
@Utah State.
@Boise State.

I'll call you a realistic homer : ) It's normal to think that a one point lose with your backup QB could have been a win with your starter. But that's only if your backup plays shit. He didn't. He did the same thing that we did the year before when we beat AF, and that was short little high percentage passes. You could also figure in that even though he didn't have any long pass completions, he also didn't have any interceptions, sacks, fumbles or ejections. So all in all, a solid game. In my heart, I feel that we would have won had Brett been playing that day, but that's my homerism, and has nothing to do with the facts.

In the Nevada game Thompson only attempted 3 passes after Brett left, so that's more of an incomplete. And I believe anyone would give us Cal Poly with Brett playing. Sorry, I just can't agree that we'd get those extra 3 wins.

 

[J-Rod]

In the Nevada game Thompson only attempted 3 passes after Brett left, so that's more of an incomplete. And I believe anyone would give us Cal Poly with Brett playing. Sorry, I just can't agree that we'd get those extra 3 wins.

Not to mention, some of UW's wins came in fortunate circumstances......late turnovers by UNM and UNLV propelled Wyoming to wins there, games that could have easily been losses. Don't get me started on Idaho. :x Wyoming will be in similar situations this fall....outside of the big named teams on the schedule (Nebraska, Boise), Wyoming could beat anyone on their schedule, but also could lose to anyone as well. I expect a lot of close games....no blowouts.

 

[WyoAlum1987]

If they don't get that offensive line fixed, we are going to be limited in the run game.
I dont care how "legit" the boys in the backfield are-if you cant get holes you dont get yards
and if we never make them stack the box-bad things.....
they can pressure our receivers and qb.

Job one is to get that O line respectable. Till we do, we will have to scheme a LOT to make up for it
Bringing in a lot of JC's....hope that buys us some time