ItSucksToBeACSURam
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CSU's 11-0 record is not...
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ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Damn. 2.4 seconds left, NMSU down by one, at the free throw line shooting two to win or tie, misses both.
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Puke in my mouth. CSU escapes 58-57. They'll lose soon
BeaverPoke
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kansasCowboy said:
Hahaha my god you are funny.
We haven't beaten CSU in Fort Collins since 2009. We couldn't beat Cal or SMU on the road this season. We don't need CSU having a fucking sell out. We need the environment to be as un-intimidating as possible.
And yes, if Wyo only gets 5K to the UNLV game I will bitch, because we get about 5K for non-conference teams.
Until Wyo can prove we can win on the road against non-sellout opponents, let's not hope for a CSU sell out. We need the win. Not a dramatic win. We need the win.
kansasCowboy
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POKE FAN said:
I can see it now:
CSU living on a prayer, but undefeated going into the night against their rival WYO.
WYO will barely eke out a win against UNLV and the. Go on the road and struggle to get a win against the worst team in the conf. SJSU. Then we hit Ft. col at 12-2, and CSU at 15-0, after barely getting by an injured BSU and UNM. WYO comes in tied for first in the conf only to beat the Sheep on their home court, behind a capacity crowd to get us win 13 and a top 25 ranking plus a top 20 win on our resume.
I'm fucking hilarious!
BeaverPoke
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kansasCowboy said:
I can see all of that besides the CSU sell out. What makes you think this team is ready to perform at that type of level?
kansasCowboy
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BeaverPoke said:
Because just like when we had Bailey and Davis, when we're good, WYO fans hit the Ft in droves. The game we won down there in 02-03, we were good. CSU was considered middle of the pack. CSU fans showed up and so did WYO fans. I would say 60/40 CSU to WYO that game. If we go to the Ft, the top two teams in conf. They will be sold out.
And I think WYO has a good chance against those guys. Even at the Ft.
BeaverPoke
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kansasCowboy said:
If wyo fans pack the place we can win. But if not I don't think a wednesday game before students get back is selling out in fort collins. Their fans suck.
First things first is UNLV. And sjsu. Then we can see if we are good.
Until someone beats CSU, they deserve what they are getting. I won't take anything away from them at this point. If we had played NMSU on the road, we would have lost. CSU beat them at their place and did so with a lot of grit, grinding the Aggies down over the course of the game.
Not to be overly negative, but I am much more concerned about Wyoming at this juncture. We have not played well on the road, losing to two teams that played with depleted rosters and otherwise winning in a blah fashion. Outlasting Montana State in the last 2 minutes on the road is not the hallmark of anything more than a CBI team. Even then, outside of CU and some cupcakes, we haven't been consistent overall, including at home. Adams can dunk pretty - but has lost his swagger. Grabau is hurt, but even before his injury was starting to backslide, just like last year. Other than Nance, I can't say I am particularly elated with anyone's game right now, understanding that some of the guys are hurt. Our bench production is crap, we have had way too many turnovers of late and lack intensity nearly across the board.
My concern has slipped from any thoughts of snagging road victories and other teams' weaknesses and is focused solely on holding serve at home and hoping that the Pokes pull out of their pre-Holiday funk. I have faith that Shy will coach 'em up and get them going, but there just doesn't seem to be any fire in their guts right now.
Not to be overly negative, but I am much more concerned about Wyoming at this juncture. We have not played well on the road, losing to two teams that played with depleted rosters and otherwise winning in a blah fashion. Outlasting Montana State in the last 2 minutes on the road is not the hallmark of anything more than a CBI team. Even then, outside of CU and some cupcakes, we haven't been consistent overall, including at home. Adams can dunk pretty - but has lost his swagger. Grabau is hurt, but even before his injury was starting to backslide, just like last year. Other than Nance, I can't say I am particularly elated with anyone's game right now, understanding that some of the guys are hurt. Our bench production is crap, we have had way too many turnovers of late and lack intensity nearly across the board.
My concern has slipped from any thoughts of snagging road victories and other teams' weaknesses and is focused solely on holding serve at home and hoping that the Pokes pull out of their pre-Holiday funk. I have faith that Shy will coach 'em up and get them going, but there just doesn't seem to be any fire in their guts right now.
JimmyDimes
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LawPoke said:
What if we played them without their best player and Preseason WAC Player of Year? He was New Mexico State highest scorer and best player when they played us. He didn't play against CSU. And, their big guy didn't hit two or three treys to keep them close toward the end of the game.
The rest is your opinion......I think the Pokes take care of business.
Go Pokes!!
POKE FAN
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NMSU are without four key players, including their two best players (Nephawe and Mullings). I distinctly remember Mullings putting up 21 against the Pokes in Laramie to keep the Aggies close. Mullings didn't play against the sheep. CSU will get poked in the nose several times during MWC play.JimmyDimes said:
JimmyDimes said:
CSU had two starters out as well, at least from what I thought I understood from the game broadcast - and Bejarano went 0-fer from the land of tre...which is just as unusual as NMSU's guy missing down the stretch. Either way, you are correct...the rest is my opinion and, unless I see something different fairly soon, it will continue to be my opinion. And don't get me wrong, I absolutely detest, loathe and hate CSU...
POKE FAN said:
I thought it was two starters, but you are probably correct. Ultimately, I don't much care about CSU (in fact, I hate them and actually think that they will likely end up about where Wyoming did the year Martinez kicked the guy in the head...but for now, they are ranked and haven't been beaten), but I remain concerned about the Pokes. The UNLV game will be a good indicator of whether that concern is warranted or not.
calpoke25
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I share LawPokes concern right now. Regardless of whether CSU is as good as their record is, their record is still unblemished and until they lose, they deserve to be where they are. If Wyoming was undefeated with our much worse SOS we'd feel equally as entitled. Wyoming to me right now is starting to Feel like a ship taking on water faster than it can be pumped out. The UNLV game is giving me a bad feeling. I think it has the potential to rip open all the holes in the ship, but Wyoming also has a great opportunity to start MW play with a quality win. We'll see what happens.
NowherePoke
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LawPoke said:
It was Daniels (starter) and Clavell (key bench contributor) I believe that they were missing.
Still, Mullings is the heart and soul of NMSU.
In the end though, I agree with you in terms of not really caring about CSU, but being concerned about our current position.
The big wild card right now in the MWC is the health/availability of some key players. Specifically Polee, Drmic, and Neal. With all teams intact, I think SDSU and BSU are the frontrunners. Deep, talented, experienced, and well coached. I really don't know what the prognosis is for Polee, but Drmic should be back. As long as he is healthy, BSU will be very tough to beat. WYO/CSU/UNLV are the next group IMO. UNLV has the higher ceiling (I sort of hate that type of description, but I think it is true in this case), but I don't know if they will have the same consistency that veteran UW and CSU squads will have throughout conference play.
NM without Neal is in rebuilding mode, but they will still win their fair share and Fresno is way too talented to suck this atrociously all year. They will notch some upsets. Not too worried about the other 4 teams in the aggregate, although obviously the Pokes need to worry about each team in a single game environment.
Pokes need to be looking at 12-6 in order to get to the NIT and avoid the CBI again. It will be a tall order, but doable.
NowherePoke
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calpoke25 said:
I don't really see it in those terms. UNLV is very talented and a loss wouldn't surprise me. However, I don't really see this Wyoming team as being on the verge of any kind of breakdown. Now, we don't have any depth (as usual), so any significant injury/suspension will screw us just like the last two years, but if they stay intact they will hang around in most games and be a top half team I believe. Unfortunately, the OOC wasn't good enough to really entertain NCAA hopes. Very disappointing, particularly the Cal game, but I am hoping that Nance is rounding into form and that the Pokes will be a tougher out later on.
I don't know that I see a breakdown on the horizon either, but I don't know that I see a team that will win the conference - which is what it will take for us to get into the NCAA tournament. We have been pretty good at times...but, particularly lately, we haven't played what I would consider "great" basketball (in fact, I think I only saw that for the CU game). Both of these realities give me heartburn because I know we have a VERY good set of players right now. Knowing that we finally have the talent (and I think the scheme) to truly compete but playing like we are in a fog is like having a Ferrari in the driveway without any keys for the damned thing...so much potential, but if things don't sort out the right way, nothing but abject disappointment.
I guess I have just been a Wyoming fan for too long and am only able to see the glass as being half-empty.
I guess I have just been a Wyoming fan for too long and am only able to see the glass as being half-empty.
calpoke25
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NowherePoke said:
I guess it's not on the verge of a breakdown as much as a on the verge of a larger disappointment given some of the preseason hype and CU destruction. I thought at that time I was watching potentially the best Wyoming team of the past 25 years. Right now I feel like Wyoming is playing like a 10-8 MW club to be honest. Hopefully the fact that these players have so many starts and so much experience under their belts will help them be successful during the conference grind. We do have one of the best, if not best player in the conference, and that will always give you a chance to win games.