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CSU is kicking our butt...

JimmyDimes said:
Seriously? CSU might build a stadium, but they are broke. I'm curious how the funding will shake out. But as for them kicking our butts? They've beat us two years in a row and have dreams of building a stadium. What have we done....built a regulation size IPF (compared to 70 yards), have remodeled the War (yes work still needs to be done, but it is a nice stadium), are in the process of upgrading the AA (as opposed to Moby). We're whining because CSU realizes they are being left behind and are doing what they need. They have a 10-1 football team, but are barely drawing better crowds than us.

All our sports are trending upward. Enjoy the ride fellas. I realize it has been a long time, but the whining is, well whining.

I agree on finding new leadership, but I think we are barking up the wrong tree.
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They're kicking our asses in attendance this year.
 
New Mexico would be a better regional fit for the Big12. Of course UNM hasn't done a thing to improve facilities or strengthen their football program. However their Basketball program would be a nice addition to the B12.
 
#8: It might take money from the state legislature or whatever, but the airport in Laramie must be upgraded to allow teams to be able to fly in.

Once a team comes in the university has vans waiting and they are whisked to one of the new hotels east of the stadium.

No hassles and no argument, in fact easier than flying into one of the larger metro airports with this set up!
 
BJC said:
I thought this was already done....teams flying ion and out of Laramie?
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It is done. Laramie's airport can land 727's, etc. Our own team charters a jet out regularly. Last time I flew into Laramie, there was a tornado watch in Denver, and they diverted 4 Southwest Airlines jets to Laramie. They were all parked at the airport waiting for DIA to open.
 
Often times they fly into and stay in Denver and keep the team out of Laramie thanks to air horns and hooligans. Often times they fly out of Laramie. So, I've seen a few times. I am not the travel expert.
 
That's great news and I assume that includes charters coming in with visiting football teams? What about basketball visiting teams I suspect they fly commercial?

If that is the case, access to Laramie is no big deal for charters coming in.

It would then seem like we have an advantage over CSU for football that I assume teams have to fly into DIA and then they bus to Fort Collins?
 
WestWYOPoke said:
Falling behind?? We are ahead in every category facility wise. Better current stadium, better IPF, easily better basketball arena. Only one of those is even rumored to be changing, you say fall behind, I say csu is starting to MAYBE catch up.
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If the trend continues, they will have a $12-14 million/year athletic budget advantage over us. We were ahead of them 8 years ago, but they have surpassed us now.

Yes, we are drastically falling behind CSU.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
WestWYOPoke said:
Falling behind?? We are ahead in every category facility wise. Better current stadium, better IPF, easily better basketball arena. Only one of those is even rumored to be changing, you say fall behind, I say csu is starting to MAYBE catch up.
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If the trend continues, they will have a $12-14 million/year athletic budget advantage over us. We were ahead of them 8 years ago, but they have surpassed us now.

Yes, we are drastically falling behind CSU.
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What is the total budget for athletics at UW?
 
Douglaspoke said:
That's great news and I assume that includes charters coming in with visiting football teams? What about basketball visiting teams I suspect they fly commercial?

If that is the case, access to Laramie is no big deal for charters coming in.

It would then seem like we have an advantage over CSU for football that I assume teams have to fly into DIA and then they bus to Fort Collins?
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I believe they can fly into Loveland?
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
McPeachy said:
WestWYOPoke said:
According to this site,

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/

Our budget for 2013 was $29.65 million (75th out of 230). csu was $34.79 million (69th).
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This makes me sick...just sick.
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When Burman took over, we were over 1 million ahead of CSU with respect to athletic budget.
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Gotta have a vision and a plan to get people to invest in you. Burman's vision/plan equals his trophy case.
 
According to this site,

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our budget for 2013 was $29.65 million (75th out of 230). csu was $34.79 million (69th).
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So, we outspend CSU about 2 to 1 on a per student basis? Not bad!
 
More per general student population, except we have one more varsity sport than csu, so we are actually spending even less per athlete.
 
What seems to be overlooked is that most likely the new on campus stadium will seat around 34,000, which is about the same size as the on campus stadium in Laramie. So they will have a football stadium along the lins of the War, but newer (however in terms of player interest it won't be a lot different), a 70-yard IPF and a hoops arena that is far below the AA.
 
SnowyRange said:
According to this site,

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our budget for 2013 was $29.65 million (75th out of 230). csu was $34.79 million (69th).
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So, we outspend CSU about 2 to 1 on a per student basis? Not bad!
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:lol: God Bless WYO fans. As long as we can spin it to make it look good on a per capita basis, all is good.

Not meaning to be a jerk here, but this is exactly what the independent committee was talking about when they said WYO was accepting a culture of mediocrity and using our limits as excuses.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
SnowyRange said:
According to this site,

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our budget for 2013 was $29.65 million (75th out of 230). csu was $34.79 million (69th).
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So, we outspend CSU about 2 to 1 on a per student basis? Not bad!
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:lol: God Bless WYO fans. As long as we can spin it to make it look good on a per capita basis, all is good.

Not meaning to be a jerk here, but this is exactly what the independent committee was talking about when they said WYO was accepting a culture of mediocrity and using our limits as excuses.
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+1

Get ready for the "I'm not accepting losing I am just pointing out facts" comments.

when can we just admit we are a basketball school? We should just strive for 6-6 in football.
Quit scheduling big teams. Let's just schedule 1 fcs team along with 3 low level sunbelt/mac schools every year. Let's play the Akrons and Western Michigans and Alabama States.
I bet we could get to 6-6 a lot more often. Hell even during an "up" year we could get 9 wins.
 
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