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CSA releases findings on Basketball/Football programs
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BeaverPoke
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wyokoke said:
I doubt he would fire Shyatt but he might fire DC after this season regardless of outcome. Firing DC might lead to Brett leaving, and Thompson leaving.
Three scenarios save both Burman and Christensen's jobs: 1- Christensen gets to the title game; 2- Christensen gets to a bowl game and plays a competitive game (a 7-10 point loss) or wins; 3- Christensen wins only one more game, but vastly improves defensive production (reduces points allowed by at least 10 and yards allowed next four games drop below 400).wyokoke said:
The first two are no-brainers for Burman's job security. The last one's a bit trickier. If Burman fires Christensen in that third scenario, Sternberg likely launches Burman. If Burman hesitates to fire Christensen outside of all three scenarios, Sternberg launches Burman.
Burman and Christensen's fates are pretty much linked- if Burman goes, Christensen's likely already gone. If Sternberg fires Burman for not firing Christensen, Christensen will be next on the carpet in Old Main and it's about 50-50 he leaves it running through job possibilities in his mind. There's about an even chance Sternberg would leave Christensen's fate up to Burman's replacement.
YankPoke
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I agree partially Wyovanian, but I think that they both will not be fired until after next year unless we are not competitive at all. I think as long as DC shows some improvement and beat Hawaii then DC will keep his job. I think that Burman is much more likely to be fired after this season. If they do not make a bowl game I would suspect that Burman be fired at the end of the year, but not DC and that DC receives one extra year while the new AD decides what to do.
Want to double down?YankPoke said:
Just jerkin' yer' chain.
That third scenario is the improvement case you describe, but it's going to have to be substantial. He gives up 40 or more to Fresno and Boise and they both go over 400 yards, unless he outscores them, Christensen should be done. And, like I said, it's about even money if Burman doesn't fire Christensen, Burman gets canned and Christensen's fate is up to the next AD.
Sternberg's going to be watching for a sign that Burman will embrace change. If Christensen accomplishes none of the three things I described and Burman doesn't, or drags his feet firing him, Burman's done. Burman's job is only saved by Christensen succeeding at minimum in the third (improvement) scenario or better, or firing Christensen.
BeaverPoke
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Any chance that DC pulls some shit out of his ass and wins some games, and Burman still gets fired?
Maybe our defense gets absolutely torn up, but DC out-coaches the other teams pulling trick plays, onside kicks, amazing offense, etc. and wins some games?
Then Burman doesn't want to give the football team more money for a good D-Coordinator? Or we only average 20K for the final 2 games?
I guess what I am getting at is that DC proves in these final 4 games that he CAN coach and get the team ready to play, but was being held back in some way from Burman?
Maybe our defense gets absolutely torn up, but DC out-coaches the other teams pulling trick plays, onside kicks, amazing offense, etc. and wins some games?
Then Burman doesn't want to give the football team more money for a good D-Coordinator? Or we only average 20K for the final 2 games?
I guess what I am getting at is that DC proves in these final 4 games that he CAN coach and get the team ready to play, but was being held back in some way from Burman?
There's a pretty solid axiom in most organizations- "Shit rolls downhill."BeaverPoke said:
Fact is, Christensen's downhill from Burman. Unless he can produce some sort of smoking gun that he made a good case to Burman and that Burman screwed the pooch on it, it's highly unlikely Burman gets the boot while Christensen is still welcome. Any case Christensen might make is further complicated by his own compensation package and I guarantee Sternberg's seen the AFA meltdown and has a pretty dim view of Christensen's executive ability.
NowherePoke
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BeaverPoke said:
Sort of. They aren't getting it from state governments in general (New Mexico is an exception). Partially from donors, although Wyoming actually holds up pretty well in that regard.
The missing piece for Wyoming? Fans. By that I mean, revenue generated from attendance combined with revenue generated from third tier media rights beyond the MWC package. Because our media market is so small, our 3rd tier package simply carries no value. Compare that to the money that Hawaii, for example, brings in from that revenue stream. It is a pretty dramatic difference.
From my perspective, we can't change that shortcoming. Wyoming is the least populated state and looks to remain so for for the foreseeable future. However, we can offset that deficit by outspending our competition in the other two facets (donors and state government). This involves willingness on the part of both donors and the state to provide the funds of course, but it also relies on the willingness and ability of UW (at all levels, from CJC to AD to Sternberg to the BOT) to provide a vision and a pitch to those entities that encourages them to buy-in.
IMO, we haven't had that in the Buchanan/Burman era.
NowherePoke
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wyokoke said:
Soccer and Volleyball coaches are pretty new. No reason to make rash decisions there. Also, Berryhill is just in his 2nd season for Track and XC and I have heard positive reviews from him.
Really, I think the only fallout from a Burman departure would be to hasten the departure of DC, but I think that happens anyway (I just think it happens next year, not this year).
McPeachy
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MrTitleist said:
This is a GD travesty. How in the hell does he (Burman) expect anyone to believe him?!?! His own words - his own context - his own written statements verify that he is satisfied with being mediocre. And have been that way ever since taking the job, and never more evident than with Schroyer gate and his comments after the MWC lost BYU, Utah, and TCU!
Lying bastard SOB. :tickedoff:
Asmodeanreborn
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I agree with Burman, we haven't settled for mediocre results.
We've settled for worse than mediocre.
We've settled for worse than mediocre.
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I'll let you guys explain this one.
I'll let you guys explain this one.
hithere
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fromolwyoming
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After reading that, I felt a "death knell" if you will for someone in the Athletic Department. Not sure who, but I felt it.
I'm thinking Burman will be out this year if we don't win another game this year, what's sad is about funding, the Legislature needs to step in and help with funding for sure, but then when that happens and the salaries of the coaching staffs raise then they have to pass that on to the fans, and if people are up in arms over $40 a ticket listen to them rant when that goes up even more......we shall see
The legislatures & governors of this state the last several years have put UW on the back burner and now are in the position of letting UW sink or swim. It's time for changes across the board, but be sure what someone stands for and what kind of a backbone they have before you vote.
