Cowboys’ offensive line seeking improvement

[Yabadabadoo]

I asked Wyoming offensive line coach Scott Fuchs this week what some of the glaring concerns were with his guys in the Cowboys’ 24-13 season-opening loss to North Dakota last Saturday.

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[Yabadabadoo]

Gonna be another challenge for the Pokes big uglies up front...this EMU OL has some beef to them - from the Center out to the Right Tackle. Left side a bit lighter but with length.

RT Andrew Wylie 6'6 - 320

RG Darien Terrell 6'4 - 325

C Matt Thornton 6'4 - 313

LT Ka'John Armstrong 6'4 - 270

LG Cole Gardner 6'5 - 257 (seems he's a converted TE)

 

[Yabadabadoo]

Defensive line:

DE Jeremiah Harris 6'5 - 235

NT Derrick Dunlap 6'0 - 291

DT Deshai Powell 6'2 - 272

They primarily play a 3-4 defense...I should have listed the D-Lineman first, apologies.

 

[yopaulie]

Fuchs said "..some things get tweaked here or there, and our ability to adjust on the fly needs to be sharpened"

Unlike Bohl, who really showed a ton of candor, this kind of coach speak bothers me after a very poor performance.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

 

[joshvanklomp]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

Half of the teams in the country lost in Week 1. Does that mean none of them are on the right track?

 

[Yabadabadoo]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

And therein with that admittance sums up why you simply cannot wrap your head around what the process of building a program to be built for endurance is all about. You want WINS, period. No matter the environment, no matter the composition of the roster, no matter what reality and common sense oughta tell you. It's either win - or nothing at all. If I have summed up your vision correctly then I'l have to counter by acknowledging that based upon your views, if it's winning or nothing else - then I guess you have me, albeit in what I'd consider to be an unrealistic way on all levels. You want wins, and lots of them, and you want them now. Well you can't have them now. And if you can't have them now and if this results in you either doubting the program's direction or feeling as though the program is on a track to nowhere, well then, I guess I'll have to recalibrate my answers to you whenever I'm compelled to follow up on one of your posts knowing how you think...its either win now - or its nothing but shit. You want wins? Me too. You hungry for wins? Me too. You want a seat at the table with the BIG BOYS of the MWC? Me too. The difference? I realistically comprehend that winning right now on a large scale is doubtful on most Saturdays. That, and I believe I am conscious of the protracted process that anything built to last takes time to complete. So if wins are not the overall objective right now, what do I want? I want to see the program establish it's base, build it's culture more thoroughly, establish an immovable identity, and take note of the collective team becoming better, building more depth, confidence, learning how to win, to the point where sometime down the line, winning is then expected, and the program is measured solely on wins and losses - and nothing else. Right now? We're so far from that moment in time that it's foolish to even think about it. Wins? Lots of em'? Not yet. Not for a while in fact.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

And therein with that admittance sums up why you simply cannot wrap your head around what the process of building a program to be built for endurance is all about. You want WINS, period. No matter the environment, no matter the composition of the roster, no matter what reality and common sense oughta tell you. It's either win - or nothing at all. If I have summed up your vision correctly then I'l have to counter by acknowledging that based upon your views, if it's winning or nothing else - then I guess you have me, albeit in what I'd consider to be an unrealistic way on all levels. You want wins, and lots of them, and you want them now. Well you can't have them now. And if you can't have them now and if this results in you either doubting the program's direction or feeling as though the program is on a track to nowhere, well then, I guess I'll have to recalibrate my answers to you whenever I'm compelled to follow up on one of your posts knowing how you think...its either win now - or its nothing but shit. You want wins? Me too. You hungry for wins? Me too. You want a seat at the table with the BIG BOYS of the MWC? Me too. The difference? I realistically comprehend that winning right now on a large scale is doubtful on most Saturdays. That, and I believe I am conscious of the protracted process that anything built to last takes time to complete. So if wins are not the overall objective right now, what do I want? I want to see the program establish it's base, build it's culture more thoroughly, establish an immovable identity, and take note of the collective team becoming better, building more depth, confidence, learning how to win, to the point where sometime down the line, winning is then expected, and the program is measured solely on wins and losses - and nothing else. Right now? We're so far from that moment in time that it's foolish to even think about it. Wins? Lots of em'? Not yet. Not for a while in fact.

DINO, the reason these types of comments annoy me is that when you make losing ok, then losing is ok as long as "well golly gee whiz, mister we sure tried, and I think we did a little better". I'm more of a fan of the Urban Meyer approach: as supreme leader you establish the bar where you want it and accept no less. There are no moral victories. Every single play, every single movement there is a battle. You strive to win every battle. Perfection is the only thing acceptable and nothing less.

Now, will we realistically attain that every single second of every single game? No, and we as fans can be understanding of that. From our leaders, however, WINNING should be the only acceptable outcome. This participation trophy and as long as we are improving crap needs to go. Set the bar where we want it. Talk it. Breath it. Strive for it. Accept nothing less. Try not. Do or do not. (yes, I just quoted Yoda)

 

[WestWYOPoke]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

Half of the teams in the country lost in Week 1. Does that mean none of them are on the right track?

Half the teams in the country (at the same level as UW) didn't lose to a team from a lower division. To generalize the way you did would be akin to saying we are just as well off as Virginia Tech who lost to Ohio State. I can tell you I would be MUCH happier if we had lost 42-24 to the #1 team in the country than to lose the way we did to who we did.

 

[joshvanklomp]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

Half of the teams in the country lost in Week 1. Does that mean none of them are on the right track?

Half the teams in the country (at the same level as UW) didn't lose to a team from a lower division. To generalize the way you did would be akin to saying we are just as well off as Virginia Tech who lost to Ohio State. I can tell you I would be MUCH happier if we had lost 42-24 to the #1 team in the country than to lose the way we did to who we did.

I thought winning was the only thing that mattered?

 

[BJC]

I'll celebrate the loss (with a grain of salt) if we go undefeated he rest of the year or if this is just a blip and we do not see this shitty of a performance again.

A loss is a loss but the way we lost......to who we lost to.....and how :thefan:

 

[WilyWapiti]

I'm not saying that any of the prior 5 coaching regimes deserved any longer than they got, but we need to get back to mediocrity before we can start having delusions of adequacy.

Agitation in the fan base after one bad loss in the second season of a new regime is exactly why we will never be successful again. It takes a lot longer that that to build a program, and we apparently won't give anyone time to develop the players and team to a consistent, winning level.

I'm sure that we, as message board members, mirror quite well the big-money boosters of the program. Some are very pissed off about the result last weekend. Hopefully Burman can resist the more vocal who say, "Fire him now! Losing to any D-II team at any point in a program's progression is unacceptable!"

Have some patience, people! Making sausage is an ugly process, but mmmm....sausage.....

WW

 

[HiCountryCowboy]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

Half of the teams in the country lost in Week 1. Does that mean none of them are on the right track?

You'd argue water wasn't wet if someone posted otherwise on here. Every f'ing time you've got to come to the rescue. Fact is that half of FBS teams didn't lose last weekend because most played FCS teams. Only a handful lost those matches - likely none as convincingly as us. This team better find a way win this week or we are definitely not on the right track in my opinion! I am not interested in seeing my team break other teams longstanding records like not winning a road game since 1988.

 

[yopaulie]

"Maybe we didn’t set he bar as high as we wanted to (in the first game), but as long as we improve we’re on the right track.”

I guess I shouldn't be this way but these kind of statements annoy me to no end. You know what the right track is? WINNING. If we get 50 yards rushing this game, it is improvement but damn sure not the right track. How about losing is unacceptable regardless of some damn theoretical track?

And therein with that admittance sums up why you simply cannot wrap your head around what the process of building a program to be built for endurance is all about. You want WINS, period. No matter the environment, no matter the composition of the roster, no matter what reality and common sense oughta tell you. It's either win - or nothing at all. If I have summed up your vision correctly then I'l have to counter by acknowledging that based upon your views, if it's winning or nothing else - then I guess you have me, albeit in what I'd consider to be an unrealistic way on all levels. You want wins, and lots of them, and you want them now. Well you can't have them now. And if you can't have them now and if this results in you either doubting the program's direction or feeling as though the program is on a track to nowhere, well then, I guess I'll have to recalibrate my answers to you whenever I'm compelled to follow up on one of your posts knowing how you think...its either win now - or its nothing but shit. You want wins? Me too. You hungry for wins? Me too. You want a seat at the table with the BIG BOYS of the MWC? Me too. The difference? I realistically comprehend that winning right now on a large scale is doubtful on most Saturdays. That, and I believe I am conscious of the protracted process that anything built to last takes time to complete. So if wins are not the overall objective right now, what do I want? I want to see the program establish it's base, build it's culture more thoroughly, establish an immovable identity, and take note of the collective team becoming better, building more depth, confidence, learning how to win, to the point where sometime down the line, winning is then expected, and the program is measured solely on wins and losses - and nothing else. Right now? We're so far from that moment in time that it's foolish to even think about it. Wins? Lots of em'? Not yet. Not for a while in fact.

DINO, the reason these types of comments annoy me is that when you make losing ok, then losing is ok as long as "well golly gee whiz, mister we sure tried, and I think we did a little better". I'm more of a fan of the Urban Meyer approach: as supreme leader you establish the bar where you want it and accept no less. There are no moral victories. Every single play, every single movement there is a battle. You strive to win every battle. Perfection is the only thing acceptable and nothing less.

Now, will we realistically attain that every single second of every single game? No, and we as fans can be understanding of that. From our leaders, however, WINNING should be the only acceptable outcome. This participation trophy and as long as we are improving crap needs to go. Set the bar where we want it. Talk it. Breath it. Strive for it. Accept nothing less. Try not. Do or do not. (yes, I just quoted Yoda)

Anyone who quotes Yoda can't be all bad.

 

[yopaulie]

Can never go wrong with a bit more Yoda...

"Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

“PATIENCE YOU MUST HAVE"

 

[Wyokie]

You can never go wrong with Yoda.

Although he did screw up with Anakin.

Gawd I hope Episode VII ends up being a good movie. I just have a bad feeling Disney will fuck it up royally.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Every f'ing time you've got to come to the rescue. Fact is that half of FBS teams didn't lose last weekend because most played FCS teams. Only a handful lost those matches - likely none as convincingly as us. This team better find a way win this week or we are definitely not on the right track in my opinion! I am not interested in seeing my team break other teams longstanding records like not winning a road game since 1988.

Good point. FBS teams were 81-43 in Week 1 (four teams didn't play).