CJC Membership Numbers

[McPeachy]

By County in Wyoming:

1. Albany 1018
2. Laramie 796
3. Natrona 366
4. Sweetwater 253
5. Sheridan 223
6. Carbon 185
7. Fremont 104

Everyone else is < 100, with Goshen being close at 97.

My Point? If I were in charge at UW & CJC, I would certainly get off my GDF ass, get a vision, and promote UW to Campbell (78) and Teton (20) counties - where the bulk of the $$ in Wyoming is. Not sure what is wrong with Natrona County only having 366 members as well - for a population of over 80,000.

Oh, and FYI...Colorado has only 362 CJC members. :shock:

 

[wyocowboy2014]

By County in Wyoming:

1. Albany 1018
2. Laramie 796
3. Natrona 366
4. Sweetwater 253
5. Sheridan 223
6. Carbon 185
7. Fremont 104

Everyone else is < 100, with Goshen being close at 97.

My Point? If I were in charge at UW & CJC, I would certainly get off my GDF ass, get a vision, and promote UW to Campbell (78) and Teton (20) counties - where the bulk of the $$ in Wyoming is. Not sure what is wrong with Natrona County only having 366 members as well - for a population of over 80,000.

Oh, and FYI...Colorado has only 362 CJC members. :shock:

Those numbers are bleek. Rather disappointing to see.

 

[LanderPoke]

CJC and UW need to do a better job of advertising, at least up here in county 10. I've never seen a billboard or any other sort of advertising. A little visibility would go a long way in building support.

 

[Kougar78]

I can tell you one reason for the poor numbers in Natrona county, you seldom read or hear anything about CJC in Casper. I couldn't tell you what the current membership has for gatherings, except for the rare instances when they promote golf outings or other such events strictly for fund raising. Perhaps if they spent some time creating a bit of fraternity, maybe the fund raising would follow.

I had previously been a CJC member. One simple reason was for the parking pass, which came with a junior membership. They did away with that and eventually they insisted on larger and larger donations to get smaller and smaller perks. Not only were parking passes going up - they got farther and farther from the stadium. It takes twice as long to get out of the CJC parking lots than it does to walk to your vehicle on a side street and be on your way.

They want larger donors, not necessarily more donors.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Alumni engagement is something UW does very very poorly compared to other Universities. This is not just an AD problem, but a University problem.

With respect to just the AD, it pales in comparison to other Universities--particularly the bigger dogs. Ever hear Burman discuss investing in programs to boost alumni relationships? Me neither.

 

[NowherePoke]

I had previously been a CJC member. One simple reason was for the parking pass, which came with a junior membership. They did away with that and eventually they insisted on larger and larger donations to get smaller and smaller perks. Not only were parking passes going up - they got farther and farther from the stadium. It takes twice as long to get out of the CJC parking lots than it does to walk to your vehicle on a side street and be on your way.

They want larger donors, not necessarily more donors.

This is an interesting point and I think this highlights part of the issue and why the CJC numbers are so low outside of a 50 mile radius of campus. It seems that our fanbase views CJC membership as a purchase of goods/services (parking pass, priority seating, etc.) rather than a donation or form of support for UW athletics. Maybe we do not do a good enough job of outreach or marketing the true nature of CJC membership. Being 900+ miles away, I typically make it to only one home football game and 1 or 2 home basketball games a year so I have very little utility for most of what I receive in exchange for being a CJC member, but that's not why I am a CJC member. I do so to support (in a modest way) our student-athletes and athletic department.

 

[McPeachy]

I had previously been a CJC member. One simple reason was for the parking pass, which came with a junior membership. They did away with that and eventually they insisted on larger and larger donations to get smaller and smaller perks. Not only were parking passes going up - they got farther and farther from the stadium. It takes twice as long to get out of the CJC parking lots than it does to walk to your vehicle on a side street and be on your way.

They want larger donors, not necessarily more donors.

This is an interesting point and I think this highlights part of the issue and why the CJC numbers are so low outside of a 50 mile radius of campus. It seems that our fanbase views CJC membership as a purchase of goods/services (parking pass, priority seating, etc.) rather than a donation or form of support for UW athletics. Maybe we do not do a good enough job of outreach or marketing the true nature of CJC membership. Being 900+ miles away, I typically make it to only one home football game and 1 or 2 home basketball games a year so I have very little utility for most of what I receive in exchange for being a CJC member, but that's not why I am a CJC member. I do so to support (in a modest way) our student-athletes and athletic department.

Reading between the lines...

Do you think there is value then, in having parking disconnected from CJC membership? Or maybe at a certain level, or as an "add-on" to the donation? I see so many unused parking spots in the Stadium Lot on Saturday's...

 

[NowherePoke]

Alumni engagement is something UW does very very poorly compared to other Universities. This is not just an AD problem, but a University problem.

+100000

The difference between UW and IU (where I went to grad school) is night and day. Every aspect of the alumni engagement process at IU is light years ahead of Wyoming. This is from the point of view of a grad who hasn't given a dime post-graduation to IU, but has consistently donated to UW. I can only imagine the difference if I was a significant donor to IU.

 

[NowherePoke]

I had previously been a CJC member. One simple reason was for the parking pass, which came with a junior membership. They did away with that and eventually they insisted on larger and larger donations to get smaller and smaller perks. Not only were parking passes going up - they got farther and farther from the stadium. It takes twice as long to get out of the CJC parking lots than it does to walk to your vehicle on a side street and be on your way.

They want larger donors, not necessarily more donors.

This is an interesting point and I think this highlights part of the issue and why the CJC numbers are so low outside of a 50 mile radius of campus. It seems that our fanbase views CJC membership as a purchase of goods/services (parking pass, priority seating, etc.) rather than a donation or form of support for UW athletics. Maybe we do not do a good enough job of outreach or marketing the true nature of CJC membership. Being 900+ miles away, I typically make it to only one home football game and 1 or 2 home basketball games a year so I have very little utility for most of what I receive in exchange for being a CJC member, but that's not why I am a CJC member. I do so to support (in a modest way) our student-athletes and athletic department.

Reading between the lines...

Do you think there is value then, in having parking disconnected from CJC membership? Or maybe at a certain level, or as an "add-on" to the donation? I see so many unused parking spots in the Stadium Lot on Saturday's...

It's an interesting debate. On the one hand, I think so, but it's clear from existing behavior that separating benefits such as parking from CJC membership would drive a decline in CJC membership. I wish that wasn't the case though.

I like your idea of an "add-on" or something similar.

 

[TSpoke]

I had previously been a CJC member. One simple reason was for the parking pass, which came with a junior membership. They did away with that and eventually they insisted on larger and larger donations to get smaller and smaller perks. Not only were parking passes going up - they got farther and farther from the stadium. It takes twice as long to get out of the CJC parking lots than it does to walk to your vehicle on a side street and be on your way.

They want larger donors, not necessarily more donors.

This is an interesting point and I think this highlights part of the issue and why the CJC numbers are so low outside of a 50 mile radius of campus. It seems that our fanbase views CJC membership as a purchase of goods/services (parking pass, priority seating, etc.) rather than a donation or form of support for UW athletics. Maybe we do not do a good enough job of outreach or marketing the true nature of CJC membership. Being 900+ miles away, I typically make it to only one home football game and 1 or 2 home basketball games a year so I have very little utility for most of what I receive in exchange for being a CJC member, but that's not why I am a CJC member. I do so to support (in a modest way) our student-athletes and athletic department.

I agree totally with this. I am not a big time donor but what I give I give to help the Athletic Dept and don't look for anything in return. In fact I kinda get annoyed when I get gifts for signing up like a hat I will never wear or something like that. That money could have been used elsewhere.

 

[VisorHair]

I had previously been a CJC member. One simple reason was for the parking pass, which came with a junior membership. They did away with that and eventually they insisted on larger and larger donations to get smaller and smaller perks. Not only were parking passes going up - they got farther and farther from the stadium. It takes twice as long to get out of the CJC parking lots than it does to walk to your vehicle on a side street and be on your way.

They want larger donors, not necessarily more donors.

This is an interesting point and I think this highlights part of the issue and why the CJC numbers are so low outside of a 50 mile radius of campus. It seems that our fanbase views CJC membership as a purchase of goods/services (parking pass, priority seating, etc.) rather than a donation or form of support for UW athletics. Maybe we do not do a good enough job of outreach or marketing the true nature of CJC membership. Being 900+ miles away, I typically make it to only one home football game and 1 or 2 home basketball games a year so I have very little utility for most of what I receive in exchange for being a CJC member, but that's not why I am a CJC member. I do so to support (in a modest way) our student-athletes and athletic department.

I agree totally with this. I am not a big time donor but what I give I give to help the Athletic Dept and don't look for anything in return. In fact I kinda get annoyed when I get gifts for signing up like a hat I will never wear or something like that. That money could have been used elsewhere.

That's the attitude folks who raise money LOVE. That's the absolute point of philanthropy. However, that view isn't shared by the majority of folks who donate to college athletics. They want something in return..IE: parking, hospitality, etc. They want to be "owners" in a particular program. It's a thin red line.

 

[Kougar78]

I'm not an alum and when I first joined, I did not do it just for a parking pass. Just giving a little contribution that happened to include an in stadium parking pass. After a few years you begin to notice that the parking perk disappears unless the donation increases. It was merely irksome.

I've been in same section for years from the time that a season family pass was located there. That family is all grown up and I've shrunk from 4 to 2 tickets. Now seats in this section require a CJC membership to get, although I think I'm kind of grandfathered in (hell, maybe I'm a CJC member and don't even know it?)