spindoctor02 said:Actually, Baylor and TCU screwed themselves, by not winning all their games. They have a perfect example in Florida State. If you want to guarantee your spot into the playoff, win all your games in a P5 league. It's that simple. If you don't lose a game, you don't give the committee an excuse to leave you out.
spindoctor02 said:Actually, Baylor and TCU screwed themselves, by not winning all their games. They have a perfect example in Florida State. If you want to guarantee your spot into the playoff, win all your games in a P5 league. It's that simple. If you don't lose a game, you don't give the committee an excuse to leave you out.
Oh, and if you do lose a game, you better make sure you played P5 teams in the preseason, or you're in the SEC. They can do whatever they want.
Anyone else wondering why Alabama got a "free pass" to #1? Their one loss was worse than TCUs. Hell, Oregon's one loss was to a lower ranked team than both of them (and at home). TCU losing to Baylor (thus Baylor getting the head-to-head advantage) screwed TCU more than anything else. TCU had the better resume, but lost out to Baylor, thus allowing an absolutely red-hot Ohio State team to get to #4.
ragtimejoe1 said:spindoctor02 said:Actually, Baylor and TCU screwed themselves, by not winning all their games. They have a perfect example in Florida State. If you want to guarantee your spot into the playoff, win all your games in a P5 league. It's that simple. If you don't lose a game, you don't give the committee an excuse to leave you out.
Couldn't agree more. EVERY P5 team had a chance at a NC. I would say mission accomplished. You'd be hard pressed to convince me that the #1 team in the land is not in the playoff.
Wyo2dal said:I'd put money that Baylor or TCU could beat any of the teams in the play off so I disagree 100%, OSU on the other hand has no business being in the play off they just paid for a spot.
ragtimejoe1 said:Wyo2dal said:I'd put money that Baylor or TCU could beat any of the teams in the play off so I disagree 100%, OSU on the other hand has no business being in the play off they just paid for a spot.
And if they won every game, they would have had a chance to prove it. Nobody to blame but themselves.
Wyo2dal said:This is exactly how I feel 100% he nailed it dead on, If it was Texas or Oklahoma instead of Baylor or TCU they would have been #4. Even Mack Brown agrees with this. Not only did he agree with it he said he knew as a coach that he got the benefit of being Texas.
ragtimejoe1 said:Wyo2dal said:This is exactly how I feel 100% he nailed it dead on, If it was Texas or Oklahoma instead of Baylor or TCU they would have been #4. Even Mack Brown agrees with this. Not only did he agree with it he said he knew as a coach that he got the benefit of being Texas.
The point remains, however. Every team had a shot at the NC. Win and there is no argument. If TCU or Baylor win all their games, they would be in. They didn't get screwed. They put themselves in a situation in which they did not control their own destiny. FSU would definitely be out if they didn't win all of their games.
Wyo2dal said:So when you say that you should be including all teams in that and yes OSU as well. Big IF none of them won all their games but OSU has more money and is nationally recognized. They didn't get in on merit they got it on past accomplishments.
Wyo2dal said:So when you say that you should be including all teams in that and yes OSU as well. Big IF none of them won all their games but OSU has more money and is nationally recognized. They didn't get in on merit they got it on past accomplishments.
spindoctor02 said:Wyo2dal said:So when you say that you should be including all teams in that and yes OSU as well. Big IF none of them won all their games but OSU has more money and is nationally recognized. They didn't get in on merit they got it on past accomplishments.
Ohio State: 12-1 record, 9 wins vs. Bowl teams
TCU: 11-1 record, 6 wins vs. Bowl teams
Baylor: 11-1 record, 5 wins vs. Bowl teams
Granted, Ohio State had the worst loss, but you can't just state it's all about money. Ohio State won 1 additional game (B1G Title Game), and defeated 3 more bowl teams than TCU and 4 more then Baylor. The committee stressed "quality wins" all season, and outside of TCU, Baylor, K-State, and maybe Oklahoma, the Big 12 was down this season. And without that conference championship game, giving whomever wins another "quality win", the Big 12 set themselves up for failure without an undefeated team.
But go right ahead, and keep blaming it on money. Of course, Ohio State just backed the Brinks truck up to the Gaylord Conference Center on Saturday night, and they got their prize. It couldn't possibly be because of the resume of each team. Why decide it on the field? Just open the bidding now.
/sarcasm
spindoctor02 said:Wyo2dal said:So when you say that you should be including all teams in that and yes OSU as well. Big IF none of them won all their games but OSU has more money and is nationally recognized. They didn't get in on merit they got it on past accomplishments.
Ohio State: 12-1 record, 9 wins vs. Bowl teams
TCU: 11-1 record, 6 wins vs. Bowl teams
Baylor: 11-1 record, 5 wins vs. Bowl teams
Granted, Ohio State had the worst loss, but you can't just state it's all about money. Ohio State won 1 additional game (B1G Title Game), and defeated 3 more bowl teams than TCU and 4 more then Baylor. The committee stressed "quality wins" all season, and outside of TCU, Baylor, K-State, and maybe Oklahoma, the Big 12 was down this season. And without that conference championship game, giving whomever wins another "quality win", the Big 12 set themselves up for failure without an undefeated team.
But go right ahead, and keep blaming it on money. Of course, Ohio State just backed the Brinks truck up to the Gaylord Conference Center on Saturday night, and they got their prize. It couldn't possibly be because of the resume of each team. Why decide it on the field? Just open the bidding now.
/sarcasm
ragtimejoe1 said:TCU = impressive! Great dominating win for the Frogs. They did for Big12 what BSU did for MWC.