Brett Smith Released

[ragtimejoe1]

And honestly, if the kid had any potential, don't you think someone would at least keep him on a practice squad and let him develop?

Yep, kid actually tried when his stock was highest. Turns out Combine evaluators didn't snub him at all. They knew their stuff.

 

[Wyo2dal]

This thread is going to turn into a toxic mess /endthread

 

[ragtimejoe1]

This thread is going to turn into a toxic mess /endthread

:lol: actually, I love it. WYO fans are the best. Stick by the great WYO players no matter what.

 

[Wyo2dal]

This thread is going to turn into a toxic mess /endthread

:lol: actually, I love it. WYO fans are the best. Stick by the great WYO players no matter what.

Problem is people aren't sticking by Wyo players they are throwing him under the bus and making ignorant comments. People acting like they all along knew he was some shit QB that didn't deserve anything it's pretty shitty to read tbh. No one was questioning his ability to play when he was wearing B&G.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Problem is people aren't sticking by Wyo players they are throwing him under the bus and making ignorant comments. People acting like they all along knew he was some shit QB that didn't deserve anything it's pretty shitty to read tbh. No one was questioning his ability to play when he was wearing B&G.

Personally, I am just baffled and my predictions about his future career were clearly wrong. I still believe Brett Smith is the 2nd best QB to wear the Brown & Gold that I have seen; it is just becoming clear that he is not a professional QB. I am wondering whether he would consider a move to a receiver and perhaps get a shot in the CFL at receiver.

 

[bladerunnr]

Thanks a lot DC for ruining Brett Smith as a pro football QB.

I didn't know that DC's job was preparing a college qb for the pros. I thought his job was to win as many games as possible for the school that hired him. And honestly, if the kid had any potential, don't you think someone would at least keep him on a practice squad and let him develop?

Part of winning games should automatically prepare a kid for the next level in this case DC didn't win shit because he didn't coach for shit so in a lot of ways it is absolutely as much DC's fault at being a shit coach as Smiths fault at making a bad decision.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. So Herron was drafted in spite of his coaching? And DC had 2 winning seasons. Tell me how many coaches in the last 15 years at Wyo. did that? He may not have been a great coach but he was far from a "shit" coach as you put it.

And no one is saying Smith was a lousy qb. I loved him here. But if I don't think he had pro potential, I'm throwing him under the bus? The leaps you make in logic border on the bizarre.

 

[The Virginian]

Not drafted. Maybe.

Just cause they didn't go higher? No.

As long as they don't sign a contract what's the difference?

 

[Wyo2dal]

Thanks a lot DC for ruining Brett Smith as a pro football QB.

I didn't know that DC's job was preparing a college qb for the pros. I thought his job was to win as many games as possible for the school that hired him. And honestly, if the kid had any potential, don't you think someone would at least keep him on a practice squad and let him develop?

Part of winning games should automatically prepare a kid for the next level in this case DC didn't win shit because he didn't coach for shit so in a lot of ways it is absolutely as much DC's fault at being a shit coach as Smiths fault at making a bad decision.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. So Herron was drafted in spite of his coaching? And DC had 2 winning seasons. Tell me how many coaches in the last 15 years at Wyo. did that? He may not have been a great coach but he was far from a "shit" coach as you put it.

And no one is saying Smith was a lousy qb. I loved him here. But if I don't think he had pro potential, I'm throwing him under the bus? The leaps you make in logic border on the bizarre.

Ya you're right I don't know what I'm talking about, His absolutely astounding 27–35 & 16–23 MWC record make him a great coach.

The fact your comparing different positions that have absolutely nothing to do with each other at any level or have even part of the impact that a properly coached QB has when it comes to being drafted let alone players that were at the combine vs players that weren't is baffling.

 

[bladerunnr]

Wyo2dal,

I'm not going to bother to repost all of your drivel. First, where did I say DC was a "great" coach? Secondly, he was widely acknowledged as a brilliant coordinator at Missouri. He coached Chase Daniels. Somehow, he became a lousy offensive coach when he got here? And didn't Smith go to Manning's qb camp? So it appears he must not have received good instruction there either.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Wyo2dal,

I'm not going to bother to repost all of your drivel. First, where did I say DC was a "great" coach? Secondly, he was widely acknowledged as a brilliant coordinator at Missouri. He coached Chase Daniels. Somehow, he became a lousy offensive coach when he got here? And didn't Smith go to Manning's qb camp? So it appears he must not have received good instruction there either.

Went to Manning's camp, and then as the season wore on, he got worse.

 

[yopaulie]

One thing I have observed about the NFL, is that players seem to be judged entirely in the following order:

1. Physical attributes (ht, wt, speed, strength, hand size, etc.)
2. Technical fundamentals (footwork, throwing motion, etc.)

....a distant 3rd

3. Intangibles (leadership, attitude, winning %, clutch performance, etc.)

#3 only comes into play AFTER items 1 and 2 are satisfied. It's why a 6'5 QB (Lobato) from Northern Colorado, who was not hugely successful in college, makes the Dolphins practice squad, It doesn't make sense to me as a fan - it also seems like that's why there may be so many NFL busts. But its the way it works.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Dare I mention that the FCS quarterback Bohl coached last year has spent more time in NFL locker rooms than Smith has?

 

[Subcanis]

It was a privilege to watch him represent my beloved Cowboys. I wish he had the coaching to match his competitiveness, grit, and will to win.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Problem is people aren't sticking by Wyo players they are throwing him under the bus and making ignorant comments. People acting like they all along knew he was some shit QB that didn't deserve anything it's pretty shitty to read tbh. No one was questioning his ability to play when he was wearing B&G.

I don't think it is throwing him under the bus. The kid was an OUTSTANDING college QB. He doesn't have skills for pro ball. It isn't the first time that book has been written.

I really overestimated his arm strength. The fact is, pro windows are so much smaller and close so much faster that you have to get zip on the ball go get it in there. There is a reason that even average pro-QBs get so much money; there aren't that many people that can do it.

If Brett had the skill set that looked like he had a chance of developing, he would be on a practice squad somewhere. Great college QB, nonetheless.

 

[cowboyz]

Thanks a lot DC for ruining Brett Smith as a pro football QB.

I didn't know that DC's job was preparing a college qb for the pros. I thought his job was to win as many games as possible for the school that hired him. And honestly, if the kid had any potential, don't you think someone would at least keep him on a practice squad and let him develop?

Part of winning games should automatically prepare a kid for the next level in this case DC didn't win shit because he didn't coach for shit so in a lot of ways it is absolutely as much DC's fault at being a shit coach as Smiths fault at making a bad decision.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. So Herron was drafted in spite of his coaching? And DC had 2 winning seasons. Tell me how many coaches in the last 15 years at Wyo. did that? He may not have been a great coach but he was far from a "shit" coach as you put it.

And no one is saying Smith was a lousy qb. I loved him here. But if I don't think he had pro potential, I'm throwing him under the bus? The leaps you make in logic border on the bizarre.

DC may not have been a shit coach, only a shit person. Actually, I take that back, he was pretty shit as a coach also, who was lucky to have some weak opponents during his time here. 27-35 during his tenure, but break it down and it's 18-5 vs FCS, Idaho, NM, CSU and UNLV. Then 9-30 vs everyone else. He could generally beat the scrubs. The others, not so much.

Having said that, his job was to win football games, not get Brett to the pros. If Brett made it as a by product, great. But other than the fact that DC could use it as a recruiting tool for future QBs, I am sure he didn't give a rats ass where Brett ended up. He made sure his fat ass had a place to land when it was obvious he was going. The assistant coaches and players were on their own. That's life. Brett's a fighter. I too am surprised he didn't at least make it through an NFL camp, but with his attitude and fighting spirit, he'll be fine in whichever path he follows.

 

[NowherePoke]

Thanks a lot DC for ruining Brett Smith as a pro football QB.

I didn't know that DC's job was preparing a college qb for the pros. I thought his job was to win as many games as possible for the school that hired him. And honestly, if the kid had any potential, don't you think someone would at least keep him on a practice squad and let him develop?

Part of winning games should automatically prepare a kid for the next level in this case DC didn't win shit because he didn't coach for shit so in a lot of ways it is absolutely as much DC's fault at being a shit coach as Smiths fault at making a bad decision.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. So Herron was drafted in spite of his coaching? And DC had 2 winning seasons. Tell me how many coaches in the last 15 years at Wyo. did that? He may not have been a great coach but he was far from a "shit" coach as you put it.

And no one is saying Smith was a lousy qb. I loved him here. But if I don't think he had pro potential, I'm throwing him under the bus? The leaps you make in logic border on the bizarre.

Take a closer look at the SOS that DC faced in comparison to Joe Glenn. Any of the statistical based rankings (Sagarin, Massey) will show Glenn's top teams(2006 and 2004) ahead of DC's top teams.

Overall they were very similar in winning percentages, but the MWC that DC faced for most of his tenure was a dramatically weaker league than the peak MWC years that Glenn had to face.

Sure, DC is a better coach than Vic, but I don't think there is any evidence to place DC ahead of any other UW coach in the last 35+ years (we can debate Glenn and Kincaid, but there are no clear cut differences there).

ETA:

Sagarin averages for recent coaches (only available back through Dimel):

DC: 106
JG: 82
Vic: 134
Dimel: 44

Those are avert your eyes numbers for everyone except Dimel, but that's a pretty big spread between JG and DC. It reflects the weaker MWC that DC faced as well as the frequency of complete ass whippings received under his tenure (if you remove the MOV element and just use SOS as Sagarin does for his ELO Chess method the averages for JG and DC are 83 and 98 respectively so DC gets a little closer).

 

[fromolwyoming]

Thanks a lot DC for ruining Brett Smith as a pro football QB.

I didn't know that DC's job was preparing a college qb for the pros. I thought his job was to win as many games as possible for the school that hired him. And honestly, if the kid had any potential, don't you think someone would at least keep him on a practice squad and let him develop?

Part of winning games should automatically prepare a kid for the next level in this case DC didn't win shit because he didn't coach for shit so in a lot of ways it is absolutely as much DC's fault at being a shit coach as Smiths fault at making a bad decision.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. So Herron was drafted in spite of his coaching? And DC had 2 winning seasons. Tell me how many coaches in the last 15 years at Wyo. did that? He may not have been a great coach but he was far from a "shit" coach as you put it.

And no one is saying Smith was a lousy qb. I loved him here. But if I don't think he had pro potential, I'm throwing him under the bus? The leaps you make in logic border on the bizarre.

Take a closer look at the SOS that DC faced in comparison to Joe Glenn. Any of the statistical based rankings (Sagarin, Massey) will show Glenn's top teams(2006 and 2004) ahead of DC's top teams.

Overall they were very similar in winning percentages, but the MWC that DC faced for most of his tenure was a dramatically weaker league than the peak MWC years that Glenn had to face.

Sure, DC is a better coach than Vic, but I don't think there is any evidence to place DC ahead of any other UW coach in the last 35+ years (we can debate Glenn and Kincaid, but there are no clear cut differences there).

One thing I do credit DC on, was finding and recruiting talent. Developing it? Not so much. But he could recruit it.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Bohl will likely have the weakest conference slate of any of them.
I wonder how Glenn's best teams would do this year? This is not comparing Bohl to Glenn or anything like that. Just pure speculation about howpast teams would do in a weak MWC of today.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Bohl will likely have the weakest conference slate of any of them.
I wonder how Glenn's best teams would do this year? This is not comparing Bohl to Glenn or anything like that. Just pure speculation about howpast teams would do in a weak MWC of today.

Maybe similar to how we do this year? Strong defense but an offense that can ill afford to fall behind by more than 1 or 2 scores. Though, with better overall talent and an offense that doesn't turn it over as much and is better overall disciplined.