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Brett Smith: Greatest QB in WYO history.

BeaverPoke

BeaverPoke

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Brett now has the record for most yards, and most TDs. He is a great talent.

Let's take a look at how Wyo has done with him though...

8-5 in year 1 with a bowl loss.
4-6 in year 2 with no bowl.
4-6 in year 3 so far, with a bowl shot unlikely but possible.

16-17 as a starter.
Was .500 coming into this game.
And was above .500 going into the Fresno game.

How in the hell, is the best QB to ever play at Wyo, in 120 years of football, only 16-17 as a starter?
Not only is he the best QB to ever play at Wyo, but is ARGUABLY the best Wyo football player ever...

This program..the history of the program..the direction of the program..everything about it sucks.
Man I would actually welcome some mediocrity...Why not aim for the NM Bowl? It's as good as we are getting.
I want Wyo to be the next Utah or TCU or Boise or even Fresno. But damn we need to get to the level where AFA was a few seasons ago first. 6 straight bowl years for AFA from 2007 to 2012.
They went 2-4 in those bowl games, but god at least they got there.
 
I may have made this post a little bit too early.
Brett might be like 5 yards short.
But you get the point.
He will have the record after the first or second drive of the Hawaii drive.
And will end up just destroying the record over the final two games and next season.
Like, the record will be Brett by a mile and we are still this bad.
You get the point.
 
It just goes to show how little talent we really have, coach Dave is just a bullshit artist when he talks about the talent he has, there is very little of it and that is a fact.
 
Cuttslam said:
It just goes to show how little talent we really have, coach Dave is just a bullshit artist when he talks about the talent he has, there is very little of it and that is a fact.
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We can't evaluate the talent when the coaching they receive is so shitty. Get an up and comer like Jim Harbaugh when he was at the University of San Diego and these "talent-less" guys will start to look like they belong in BCS conferences. Coaching makes a huge difference, especially the attitude of the coaches. It is clear that DC has a loser's attitude which rubs off on his players. He needs to go back to being an offensive coordinator because that's all he has done here. Even then he hasn't been as good as most people give him credit for.
 
DVDA said:
Cuttslam said:
It just goes to show how little talent we really have, coach Dave is just a bullshit artist when he talks about the talent he has, there is very little of it and that is a fact.
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We can't evaluate the talent when the coaching they receive is so shitty. Get an up and comer like Jim Harbaugh when he was at the University of San Diego and these "talent-less" guys will start to look like they belong in BCS conferences. Coaching makes a huge difference, especially the attitude of the coaches. It is clear that DC has a loser's attitude which rubs off on his players. He needs to go back to being an offensive coordinator because that's all he has done here. Even then he hasn't been as good as most people give him credit for.
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That hits the nail on the head with a 16lb sledge. I do believe that we have the talent to compete (at least on the offensive side of the ball...and we do have a hand-full of decent defensive players and potential). The problem lies in that we have had two coaches in a row that are too bull-headed to recognize that there is something wrong with either their system or the players they are recruiting to their system...and be damned if they are going to admit that they have been going about it all wrong....
 
The previous greatest qb in Wyo history was Casey Bramlet. Ever look up his record? He had the same problem, shitty coaching.
 
It's all relative and thus Smith can make that claim, but as far as greatness we have had the good fortune to witness some great QB play. Welniak, Wallwork, Fox, Toscano......all brought a flavor that added to some good teams.......I remember Steve Cockerham having a career game against ASU that was special. Smith is the greatest by the numbers but there are many that have contributed to Cowboy lore.
 
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
 
Wyolie Coyote said:
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
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So.....you're saying Trent dilfer was better than Dan Marino?

Smith is the best. Not his fault he isn't on a good team playing for a dipshot coach.
The other teams were better but they would have been even better with brett
 
BeaverPoke said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
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So.....you're saying Trent dilfer was better than Dan Marino?

Smith is the best. Not his fault he isn't on a good team playing for a dipshot coach.
The other teams were better but they would have been even better with brett
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Did you watch the game on Saturday? Looked very shaky to me. I don't classify him as the best QB at UW. The problem with looking at Bramlet and Smith is that they are the team. We have no offense other than them throwing the ball and they each put up huge statistics.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
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So.....you're saying Trent dilfer was better than Dan Marino?

Smith is the best. Not his fault he isn't on a good team playing for a dipshot coach.
The other teams were better but they would have been even better with brett
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Dilfer better than Marino? In college or in the pros? Different animals.

Like Kellen Moore (all time NCAA most winning QB) is a fading 3rd stringer for Detroit right now.
 
Wyolie Coyote said:
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
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That would depend on the team that surrounds them. Bramlet and Smith cannot stop team from scoring on our defense, they can't make the play after the ball is caught, and they are not the line that opens holes for our backs. Given the numbers they put up with little to no help surrounding them. I'd say they've done a damn good job.

Besides I recal as recently as earlier this year and last year people on here saying that Smith can't win these games by himself, that he's going to need some help. Well, that still applies, and yet he has the all time numbers. We may not be successful but for goodness sake, give credit where credit is due. He will go down as one of our most accurate passers, most completions, most td passes, most overall Tds/ yards. That's not something to downplay.
 
McPeachy said:
BeaverPoke said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
Click to expand...


So.....you're saying Trent dilfer was better than Dan Marino?

Smith is the best. Not his fault he isn't on a good team playing for a dipshot coach.
The other teams were better but they would have been even better with brett
Click to expand...

Dilfer better than Marino? In college or in the pros? Different animals.

Like Kellen Moore (all time NCAA most winning QB) is a fading 3rd stringer for Detroit right now.
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I'm sure he meant the pros, beings were talking about if championships are the end all argument for who is the better qb, and Dilfer has a ring where Marino doesn't
 
we can blame the d all we want but our O had some TERRIBLE turnovers vs Boise State. Brett had some horrible throws. Wick had fumbles. We gave up the ball, what was it, 2-3 times on short yardage distances on 4th down? Several times in the redzone.

frick.
 
wyokoke said:
McPeachy said:
BeaverPoke said:
Wyolie Coyote said:
Bramlet and Smith are not the greatest QB's. Sure they own individual records but the greatest QB's won games and competed for championships. Neither has done that.
Click to expand...


So.....you're saying Trent dilfer was better than Dan Marino?

Smith is the best. Not his fault he isn't on a good team playing for a dipshot coach.
The other teams were better but they would have been even better with brett
Click to expand...

Dilfer better than Marino? In college or in the pros? Different animals.

Like Kellen Moore (all time NCAA most winning QB) is a fading 3rd stringer for Detroit right now.
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I'm sure he meant the pros, beings were talking about if championships are the end all argument for who is the better qb, and Dilfer has a ring where Marino doesn't
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+1.

Hard to say Brett isn't the best because he has never won a championship. He doesn't play all 22 positions. Just one.
Simply from a QB standpoint, and the stats that go with it, he is clearly the best.
 
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