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Biggest Reason for Wyoming's 3 losses

seattlecowboy

seattlecowboy

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The single biggest reason I see for the Wyoming Men's basketball teams losses so far is 3 point shooting.

When Wyoming is at home they are very deadly from the arc. Go on the road though and it turns in to another story.

Here are the stats:

In the 6 home games Wyoming is shooting 45-94 from the 3 point line for 47.8% on the year.

In the 4 road games Wyoming is shooting 13-55 from the 3 point line for 23% on the year.

Take out the road game against South Dakota that Wyoming still was able to pull out and win and Wyoming's 3 point shooting in the 3 losses are 6-36 for a total of 16% on the year.

At Colorado Wyoming went 3-12 from behind the arc . If we hit just two more then we have a chance to pull out the win.
At Denver Wyoming was 1-10. Hit one or two more and Wyoming has a good chance to win.

At Ohio St. Wyoming went 2-14. Hit a couple more and Wyoming would have still been in the game somewhat. Probably still would not have won.

Wyoming is close to being 9-1 right now instead of 7-3 with a good ooc win over Colorado but didn't quite play out that way.

Wyoming is at home tonight and even though SMU is good , they aren't any tougher of a game than playing CU at CU or Ohio St. in Columbus. Coming off of a loss i expect Wyoming to bounce back and be ready to play and win this game at home and expect the 3 point shooting should be a lot better playing in the comfy confines of the AA.

Go Pokes!
 
Adv8RU12 said:
Tonight it might be turnovers. Seems to be having trouble with the man-to-man.
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Tonight it is 3 point shooting again. The turnovers don't help but Wyoming is 2-11 from 3 in the first half. Not good.
 
The biggest reason for the losses is because our athletics program is under-funded. Shyatt and Bohl need more money for recruiting and the athletics department needs a marketing campaign to push attendance.
 
seattlecowboy said:
Adv8RU12 said:
Tonight it might be turnovers. Seems to be having trouble with the man-to-man.
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Tonight it is 3 point shooting again. The turnovers don't help but Wyoming is 2-11 from 3 in the first half. Not good.
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Bad 3 point shooting and 2 blatant fouls not called that would have kept us in the game at the end.
 
If you're going to shoot that many 3's you need to make some of them or not shoot them and get a better shot. I understand teams have bad shooting games at times but every loss this year for Wyoming can be pointed directly to the 3 point line.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
The biggest reason for the losses is because our athletics program is under-funded. Shyatt and Bohl need more money for recruiting and the athletics department needs a marketing campaign to push attendance.
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A lack of Funding and money doesn't make the players shoot 26% from 3-pt....again
 
seattlecowboy said:
3 point shooting again was 6-23. 26%. That is why they lost again.
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That's not exactly it though. The 3-point shooting is a symptom, not a cause. The cause is lack of athleticism that prevents our guards from being able to break down the defense off the dribble and cause distortions that free up shooters. Also, defenders don't have the fear the dribble drive because they know they can recover.

In addition, while DC and Nance are both on the floor, spacing is somewhat compromised.

We shoot 3's well against smaller, slower, low-major type competition. Anybody with athletes can shut us down though, although Sobey in particular did miss some open looks tonight.
 
seattlecowboy said:
The single biggest reason I see for the Wyoming Men's basketball teams losses so far is 3 point shooting.

When Wyoming is at home they are very deadly from the arc. Go on the road though and it turns in to another story.

Here are the stats:

In the 6 home games Wyoming is shooting 45-94 from the 3 point line for 47.8% on the year.

In the 4 road games Wyoming is shooting 13-55 from the 3 point line for 23% on the year.

Take out the road game against South Dakota that Wyoming still was able to pull out and win and Wyoming's 3 point shooting in the 3 losses are 6-36 for a total of 16% on the year.

At Colorado Wyoming went 3-12 from behind the arc . If we hit just two more then we have a chance to pull out the win.
At Denver Wyoming was 1-10. Hit one or two more and Wyoming has a good chance to win.

At Ohio St. Wyoming went 2-14. Hit a couple more and Wyoming would have still been in the game somewhat. Probably still would not have won.

Wyoming is close to being 9-1 right now instead of 7-3 with a good ooc win over Colorado but didn't quite play out that way.

Wyoming is at home tonight and even though SMU is good , they aren't any tougher of a game than playing CU at CU or Ohio St. in Columbus. Coming off of a loss i expect Wyoming to bounce back and be ready to play and win this game at home and expect the 3 point shooting should be a lot better playing in the comfy confines of the AA.

Go Pokes!
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I'm sure the home court has something to do with it. However, the biggest reason for the home/road discrepancy is that we play mostly d2 or horrible d1 teams at home and then play decent teams on the road. Beating the hell out of sw rhode island tech is a little easier than playing in Boulder. Shooting with a defender all over you is a little harder than a wide open look.

We are nowhere near being a 9-1 team. CU beat us inside all night. DU is a lousy team that nearly everyone will beat. We don't rebound and we don't get shots in the paint. You don't win close games if you are deficient in either of those areas. Notice how bad we shot the 3 tonight. SMU defended it and our guards were not quick enough to beat them off the dribble. That's what the conference season is going to look like.
 
bladerunnr said:
seattlecowboy said:
The single biggest reason I see for the Wyoming Men's basketball teams losses so far is 3 point shooting.

When Wyoming is at home they are very deadly from the arc. Go on the road though and it turns in to another story.

Here are the stats:

In the 6 home games Wyoming is shooting 45-94 from the 3 point line for 47.8% on the year.

In the 4 road games Wyoming is shooting 13-55 from the 3 point line for 23% on the year.

Take out the road game against South Dakota that Wyoming still was able to pull out and win and Wyoming's 3 point shooting in the 3 losses are 6-36 for a total of 16% on the year.

At Colorado Wyoming went 3-12 from behind the arc . If we hit just two more then we have a chance to pull out the win.
At Denver Wyoming was 1-10. Hit one or two more and Wyoming has a good chance to win.

At Ohio St. Wyoming went 2-14. Hit a couple more and Wyoming would have still been in the game somewhat. Probably still would not have won.

Wyoming is close to being 9-1 right now instead of 7-3 with a good ooc win over Colorado but didn't quite play out that way.

Wyoming is at home tonight and even though SMU is good , they aren't any tougher of a game than playing CU at CU or Ohio St. in Columbus. Coming off of a loss i expect Wyoming to bounce back and be ready to play and win this game at home and expect the 3 point shooting should be a lot better playing in the comfy confines of the AA.

Go Pokes!
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I'm sure the home court has something to do with it. However, the biggest reason for the home/road discrepancy is that we play mostly d2 or horrible d1 teams at home and then play decent teams on the road. Beating the hell out of sw rhode island tech is a little easier than playing in Boulder. Shooting with a defender all over you is a little harder than a wide open look.

We are nowhere near being a 9-1 team. CU beat us inside all night. DU is a lousy team that nearly everyone will beat. We don't rebound and we don't get shots in the paint. You don't win close games if you are deficient in either of those areas. Notice how bad we shot the 3 tonight. SMU defended it and our guards were not quick enough to beat them off the dribble. That's what the conference season is going to look like.
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You and NowherePoke are saying the same thing basically and I agree with you both. Our guards hit open looks at home most times against lower competition. We struggle with more athletic guards. The one thing that does still get on my nerves is that Granberry still gets quite a few open looks and he only takes about 1 out of every 4 of them. That guy needs to shoot it more since he shoots it so well. He is also actually athletic enough to go around his man and get fouled as well.
Think he needs to be a little bit more aggressive and not so "pass"ive. (Pun intended) :lol:

Also Hankerson needs to start doing more as well. He has fallen off completely the last couple of games to where he isn't doing anything. Not even driving and dishing like he was the first part of the year.
 
Can someone explain to me why we don't run much pick and roll? I mean the only guard I think we have that I trust to make good decisions in pick and roll is Grabau but I have to think that we should start trying that if our guards can't penetrate off the bounce. It seems like almost all of our half court offense is initiated with that backcourt weave and if we don't get a shot off of that or a good lane for an entry pass to Nance we're hosed.

I also would like to see Nance in the high post some, it would help alleviate some of the spacing issues noted above re: Cooke. He's a high basketball IQ guy and has a decent midrange jumper so I don't see why we can't run some offense through him there.
 
Cowduck said:
Can someone explain to me why we don't run much pick and roll? I mean the only guard I think we have that I trust to make good decisions in pick and roll is Grabau but I have to think that we should start trying that if our guards can't penetrate off the bounce. It seems like almost all of our half court offense is initiated with that backcourt weave and if we don't get a shot off of that or a good lane for an entry pass to Nance we're hosed.

I also would like to see Nance in the high post some, it would help alleviate some of the spacing issues noted above re: Cooke. He's a high basketball IQ guy and has a decent midrange jumper so I don't see why we can't run some offense through him there.
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How about Adams and Nance pick and roll? Those two would kill it.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Cowduck said:
Can someone explain to me why we don't run much pick and roll? I mean the only guard I think we have that I trust to make good decisions in pick and roll is Grabau but I have to think that we should start trying that if our guards can't penetrate off the bounce. It seems like almost all of our half court offense is initiated with that backcourt weave and if we don't get a shot off of that or a good lane for an entry pass to Nance we're hosed.

I also would like to see Nance in the high post some, it would help alleviate some of the spacing issues noted above re: Cooke. He's a high basketball IQ guy and has a decent midrange jumper so I don't see why we can't run some offense through him there.
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How about Adams and Nance pick and roll? Those two would kill it.
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P-N-R point guards have to be good passers, good perimeter shooters, and good decision-makers. I don't think that describes Adams, but it does describe Grabau. And besides Adams is probably the one guy we have on the perimeter with the athleticism to penetrate off the dribble alone.
 
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