ragtimejoe1
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Wyokie said:ragtimejoe1 said:
You just figured this out.
"This," whatever it is...got started during Obama's administration IMO.
It's different now or greatly accelerated. I'll disagree. It started with the 2nd Bush.
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It's different now or greatly accelerated. I'll disagree. It started with the 2nd Bush.
LanderPoke
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laxwyo said:
I don't think many disagree with his decision to pull out of Afghanistan (just Cheney and other neocon warmongers that stand to profit off endless war), but holy crap did he bungle it. I don't think he could have F'd up worse. Everything transpired exactly opposite of what he promised would not happen. Let this be a huge black eye against him and the democrats.
WestWYOPoke
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I always seem to bitch about Trump et al, but I will absolutely agree with you guys. Biden and admin screwed the pooch on this one. While I agree with the withdrawal (should have happened long ago), the way it went down could have gone significantly better.
The only positive I see is that no American lives were lost in the withdrawal (as far as i know).
The only positive I see is that no American lives were lost in the withdrawal (as far as i know).
ragtimejoe1
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WestWYOPoke said:
His follow-up activities and interviews were even more concerning to me. Even Democrats have to admit that his mental capacity is questionable. By mental capacity I mean to be president not as a 70+ year old man.
He's not running the show and neither is Harris. It's damn scary right now.
McPeachy
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So when is it acceptable to step in and stop genocide? Is that even our place to intervene any longer in the current international climate?
Trump's plan was the beginning to the end in Afghanistan. It was his plan...it was his goal, yet senile Biden changed the timing, changed the plan (out of attitude and ego), and fucked it all up.
Trump's plan was the beginning to the end in Afghanistan. It was his plan...it was his goal, yet senile Biden changed the timing, changed the plan (out of attitude and ego), and fucked it all up.
WYCowboy said:
He's the popular pick by a lot of people as the one driving this whole world wide mess. Sadly, I believe he's Jewish. If so, I'm afraid Anti-Semitism in this world will skyrocket. Gawd, I hope I'm wrong but.... :roll:
Save bet Hitler is laughing at "us" beyond the grave.
McPeachy
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Nice choice dems...it just keeps getting sadder and sadder. Carter has to be pleased he is no longer considered the worst POTUS of ALL TIME!!!
"The members of Congress know, from their colleagues in Congress, that, uh, you know, the, looks like a tornado, they don't call them that anymore, that hit the crops and wetlands in the middle of the country, in Iowa and Nevada. It's just across the board," Bided stated at a Jersey press conference.
:wtf:
"The members of Congress know, from their colleagues in Congress, that, uh, you know, the, looks like a tornado, they don't call them that anymore, that hit the crops and wetlands in the middle of the country, in Iowa and Nevada. It's just across the board," Bided stated at a Jersey press conference.
:wtf:
ragtimejoe1
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McPeachy said:
I'm not politically connected by any means. However, I do know a few people that let's just say have pretty strong connections. Probably not major information to those who read or closely follow political news, but it was new to me. Many believe his Chief of Staff, Ron Klain, is really in charge and just preps Biden for appearances. Read his background and it does make some sense. Who is in charge of Ron Klain is less clear.
LanderPoke
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Sure seems like all this covid bullshit has to breed a new generation of conservatives. It's important to remind our young people who is doing this to them.
ragtimejoe1
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I'm sure the courts will overturn Biden's mandate. I can't imagine the president has the power to do this.
With that said, they clearly aren't following science with the mandates. That argument left the building with the delta variant and soon to be the mu variant. The conspiracy theorist in my wonders if this is a purge of conservative individuals from government and now larger businesses?
With that said, they clearly aren't following science with the mandates. That argument left the building with the delta variant and soon to be the mu variant. The conspiracy theorist in my wonders if this is a purge of conservative individuals from government and now larger businesses?
ragtimejoe1
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Whelp. Might be fired soon. I'm vaccinated but refuse to follow the vac mandate guidelines.
I'll stand for freedom and choice everytime despite what I personally chose.
This is INSANE. Damn Democrats. As an Independent you'll never get me back.
I'll stand for freedom and choice everytime despite what I personally chose.
This is INSANE. Damn Democrats. As an Independent you'll never get me back.
Bryoming
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I wouldn't be so sure. There's Supreme Court precedent in Jacobson v. Massachusetts that says that vaccines may be mandated (among other things). https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/197/11ragtimejoe1 said:
While I staunchly believe that the more people get vaccinated the quicker we'll be done with this, I think that requiring private businesses to mandate is overstepping. Federal contractors? Sure. You work for the Feds, so you have to do what the Feds say. Private businesses are another story.
ragtimejoe1
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WYO1016 said:
Forcing you to sign a liability waiver hasn't been challenged yet. I'm also not sure if they can sort business mandate by size. The other that will be challenged soon is requiring non-vaccinated to be COVID tested weekly because there is no scientific data to suggest that is anything other than harassment. Vaccinated people can contract and spread COVID so they should also be subjected to weekly testing if that mandate is passed.
At the end of the day, this is nothing more than political grandstanding. Even utilizing the OSHA approach, it will be virtually impossible to enforce. I'm guessing it will also be paused until the legal process works it way out which by then, may be a mute point anyway.
Biden is showing how incompetent he is and this is grasping at air to salvage what he can of his political approval. His angle here is to throw up his hands and say he tried and divert blame away from his administration for the free fall this country is in. That and COVID has been good for liberals and the liberal media. They want nothing more than COVID rather than Afghanistan or the economy to be front and center. Biden picked this fight to take the spotlight off of his other debacles and the media will help him pull it off.
laxwyo
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This country doesn’t have much time left unless more power is returned to the states. So, that means it’s pretty much over. The federal government has too much say and it’s time to Balkanize. The people in all the different states are too different and there’s no reason why Californians should have say in what happens in Wyoming and vice versa.
ragtimejoe1
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No verbal live comments on 9/11. They cut his feed again when gets off script. This is getting eerie. Honestly, Twilight Zone kind of stuff. I'm shocked the general population isn't sounding the alarm yet.
McPeachy
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ragtimejoe1 said:
There is clearly a large group of libs that are embarrassed and won't speak up. Major heaping pile of crow to eat, but they are all vegans. :lol:
That group doesn't want to admit (publicly, media, protesting, burning shit down, etc.) that the current POTUS is a disaster like we have never witnessed. I would be embarrassed if I were them as well. Maybe they "shot their load" with all the vile Trump crap the last 4 years.
