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Berg and Perez gone

Slow Hand said:
PotatoCreekPete said:
Slow Hand said:
See there Pete, We can get along. Even in a civil fashion. All edgy overtones aside, I agree with you about Coach Fuch's daunting task of converting our young rosy cheeked linemen into hardened war horses that will facilitate a smash mouth football program. As a spectator however I am not looking forward to watching it come game day. Even the most proficient smash mouthed teams are boring to watch. I am a "fast break on grass" kind of guy. (but please don't hold that against me or even characterize me as being slow witted because of my contemporary football reasoning) BwaaHaaaaa.

I see the tears flowing while you are writing this......

Did you watch NDSU's games this season? If you had, you would have seen that the offense was closer to a Stanford type of offense than 2 yards and a cloud of dust type. Plus they passed when they needed to, but they had superior offensive line play which is something that has been missing for years now....only one year I thought that Wyoming's offensive line played reasonably well....the other years?? Oh well, I won't speak of them. We have seen several coaches try to install the "fast break on grass" offenses and for much of the time it has been disappointing. There were moments of shear enjoyment when it worked but WAY TOO many 3 and outs when it didn't. The problem with that "fast break on grass" type of offense is that it is not balanced at all, and that makes it a lot easier for defenses to stop it unless you have the talent to make it work, and out of Christensen's own mouth, that talent level has been lacking at UW. NDSU's offense certainly scored enough points, but the biggest difference was on the defensive side.....where Wyoming had no defense and NDSU did! Wyoming's fast break offense was so bad last year that it put the defense into many poor to awful positions....I don't see that happening with Bohl's. I won't say a thing about being boring as long as we win.....

Agreed, a balanced attack will make the most sense out of a mediocre talent pool. I still like to watch the elite teams like Oregon "turn it loose" though. I think we here in Wyoming's corner were hoping that we could bring 21st century football to the high plains when we hired DC. Unfortunately it was soon apparent that the talent pool wouldn't allow it. So how does a school like Wyoming make themselves competitive.........well they play not to lose. By that I mean they are possession and field position oriented. Ahhhh (heavy sigh) i suppose as long as we win it will be bearable. But can you imagine if we can't win and it is boring as well? Vigilantes and Lynch squads abound!

Ahhhhhhh, I am sharpening my pitchfork as we speak, and I will bring enough torches for you and me......

I like firing squads personally instead of lynchings, kind of like the Wyoming legislator suggested just a week or so ago....just in case the gas chamber isn't operational. Only in Wyoming will you get sound thinking. :willybs:
 
If WRs want to play at the next level they better be good at blocking as well as catching. Speed is a nice asset too. Look at the Denver Bronco receivers.. all of them are very good blockers in the screen and outside edges when running.. yet, all of them caught more than 10 TDs this past season.
 
MrTitleist said:
If WRs want to play at the next level they better be good at blocking as well as catching. Speed is a nice asset too. Look at the Denver Bronco receivers.. all of them are very good blockers in the screen and outside edges when running.. yet, all of them caught more than 10 TDs this past season.
Also helps to have Peyton Manning throwing to them.
 
McPeachy said:
BeaverPoke said:
Perez didn't really give a shit about football.

Perez tried to quit the team mid-season, and was forever in the doghouse after that. The alternating Center mess that DC utilized was a GD joke. Reason cited by Perez - he felt he didn't "fit in". Words from the horses mouth.
He really didn't get along with a ton of the guys, I am pretty good friends with 3 of the linemens "significant others" and while I don't know the guys themselves as well, I've been around them and know that a lot of the time they will do their own thing, have there own low key kinda get together. Usually most of the linemen were there, with a few others, but I do not believe I ever saw Perez, and know a few of the guys didn't really like him and it sounded like on the field he had some issues communicating, which is huge for a center
 
wyokoke said:
McPeachy said:
BeaverPoke said:
Perez didn't really give a shit about football.

Perez tried to quit the team mid-season, and was forever in the doghouse after that. The alternating Center mess that DC utilized was a GD joke. Reason cited by Perez - he felt he didn't "fit in". Words from the horses mouth.
He really didn't get along with a ton of the guys, I am pretty good friends with 3 of the linemens "significant others" and while I don't know the guys themselves as well, I've been around them and know that a lot of the time they will do their own thing, have there own low key kinda get together. Usually most of the linemen were there, with a few others, but I do not believe I ever saw Perez, and know a few of the guys didn't really like him and it sounded like on the field he had some issues communicating, which is huge for a center

Christensen didn't really think this one out did he? Isn't one of the important things that a center does after snapping the ball is communicating? It all points out to the issue of teaching and developing players NOT simply telling them what to do. It appears that Christensen and his crew were good at telling people what to do but NOT teaching them what to do. These are young men and it appears that Christensen expected them to get better on themselves after being told simply because they were getting older. But back to Perez, here is a young man from the inner city of Los Angeles with a different culture and he is supposed to fit in immediately once he gets to Laramie. Christensen should have spent more time coaching up the two young centers already in the program rather than bringing in this guy from Los Angeles.
 
PotatoCreekPete said:
wyokoke said:
McPeachy said:
BeaverPoke said:
Perez didn't really give a shit about football.

Perez tried to quit the team mid-season, and was forever in the doghouse after that. The alternating Center mess that DC utilized was a GD joke. Reason cited by Perez - he felt he didn't "fit in". Words from the horses mouth.
He really didn't get along with a ton of the guys, I am pretty good friends with 3 of the linemens "significant others" and while I don't know the guys themselves as well, I've been around them and know that a lot of the time they will do their own thing, have there own low key kinda get together. Usually most of the linemen were there, with a few others, but I do not believe I ever saw Perez, and know a few of the guys didn't really like him and it sounded like on the field he had some issues communicating, which is huge for a center

Christensen didn't really think this one out did he? Isn't one of the important things that a center does after snapping the ball is communicating? It all points out to the issue of teaching and developing players NOT simply telling them what to do. It appears that Christensen and his crew were good at telling people what to do but NOT teaching them what to do. These are young men and it appears that Christensen expected them to get better on themselves after being told simply because they were getting older. But back to Perez, here is a young man from the inner city of Los Angeles with a different culture and he is supposed to fit in immediately once he gets to Laramie. Christensen should have spent more time coaching up the two young centers already in the program rather than bringing in this guy from Los Angeles.
You'd think its fairly common sense stuff, a kid straight outta LA is going to have a culture shock, and if you don't work with him he won't be comfortable leading to...well, see above
 
wyokoke said:
PotatoCreekPete said:
wyokoke said:
McPeachy said:
BeaverPoke said:
Perez didn't really give a shit about football.

Perez tried to quit the team mid-season, and was forever in the doghouse after that. The alternating Center mess that DC utilized was a GD joke. Reason cited by Perez - he felt he didn't "fit in". Words from the horses mouth.
He really didn't get along with a ton of the guys, I am pretty good friends with 3 of the linemens "significant others" and while I don't know the guys themselves as well, I've been around them and know that a lot of the time they will do their own thing, have there own low key kinda get together. Usually most of the linemen were there, with a few others, but I do not believe I ever saw Perez, and know a few of the guys didn't really like him and it sounded like on the field he had some issues communicating, which is huge for a center

Christensen didn't really think this one out did he? Isn't one of the important things that a center does after snapping the ball is communicating? It all points out to the issue of teaching and developing players NOT simply telling them what to do. It appears that Christensen and his crew were good at telling people what to do but NOT teaching them what to do. These are young men and it appears that Christensen expected them to get better on themselves after being told simply because they were getting older. But back to Perez, here is a young man from the inner city of Los Angeles with a different culture and he is supposed to fit in immediately once he gets to Laramie. Christensen should have spent more time coaching up the two young centers already in the program rather than bringing in this guy from Los Angeles.
You'd think its fairly common sense stuff, a kid straight outta LA is going to have a culture shock, and if you don't work with him he won't be comfortable leading to...well, see above

I remember reading a story about Perez and in it he said that he only went out for football because his friends had pushed him into it. That statement should tell you something right there! My take was Perez was great in his own environment, i.e. - comes from a big population area in a warm climate of inner LA city ball with his neighborhood friends around him and he thrived in this environment. But if the guy doesn't have a passion for the game and a desire that comes from within to really play the game at the highest level he will not be successful outside of his immediate environment. We constantly talk about how important it is to recruit the right type of young man that actually loves the type of environment that Laramie and Wyoming have to offer.......well Perez was the direct opposite and should be a poster child of the type of young man that shouldn't be recruited to Wyoming. I am not saying this as a swipe against this young man but Wyoming isn't for everyone and Christensen after 4+ years in Laramie should have easily seen the warning signs with this young man and why he was not a good recruit to Laramie.....
 
In christensens defense we were pretty desperate for a center who could snap the ball to Brett when this kid was recruited
 
pokefanchaz7 said:
In christensens defense we were pretty desperate for a center who could snap the ball to Brett when this kid was recruited

They were only desperate because they had NOT coached up the young centers in the program. I remember their desperation, but many times bad decisions are made out desperation, and unfortunately this was one of them.
 
So, sounds like Perez was taken out of his comfort zone and thrown to the wolves, so to speak. In that case, I can't really hold it against him.
 
pleasantly surprised to see Mertens and Harris having a 6th year!!! that'll help as for the other 2 don't let the door hit ya
 

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