Are we there?

[fromolwyoming]

When you've gone through 3 previous coaches in the last 14 years that have all failed to lift the program up, especially with the last one who looked to be a solid hire at the time who trashed out defense and didn't bother developing players, you learn to be cautious rather than optimistic.

 

[TSpoke]

Who isn't being optimistic? I've seen nothing but happy posts and people pumped for the future. Its not our fault if you get butthurt because some of us didn't bow down at the alter of Craig Bohl the second we hired him. One thing about people of Wyoming is we don't like to be told how to think or act(im sure most people are like this but in Wyoming we really embrace it). So when an admitted outsider comes in and says we should be bowing down and worshipping the ground coach walks on, you are going to get some backlash. Almost everyone was happy with the hire of Craig Bohl and everyone was ecstatic with the win on Saturday but you come in and tell us we aren't ecstatic enough.

I hope you stick around and remain a fan but just don't insult our fanbase and not expect to be called out on it.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Just want to mention that if I was just a Bohl fan and nothing more, I wouldn't stay up until 1 a.m. to watch the games. If all I cared about was the coach, I could just find the score the next day and be done with it.

As for the "you've done your fair share of insulting," I guess I don't remember doing that. And if I did, it wasn't my intent. Things get heated in the thick of the moment, and maybe I got carried away. If so, I apologize.

As for if we're "there," I don't think we are yet. But we will get there. The formula will work, even though the results might not be immediate.

 

[McPeachy]

Stay classy, Wyoming.

It's a pretty sad program when you can't even be optimistic about the future without being shot down and insulted like this, and be told who you can or can't root for.

Optimistic? Being optimistic is MUCH different that being told this pile:

"I think outsiders have had more faith in him as a coach than the majority of the Wyoming fan base. I guess that's one thing that's bugged me since I started posting here. Nobody believes."

So, as I said, you are no Wyoming fan...we are (regardless who the coach is by the way). Maybe you should start your own message board "BohlNation"?

 

[joshvanklomp]

Stay classy, Wyoming.

It's a pretty sad program when you can't even be optimistic about the future without being shot down and insulted like this, and be told who you can or can't root for.

Optimistic? Being optimistic is MUCH different that being told this pile:

"I think outsiders have had more faith in him as a coach than the majority of the Wyoming fan base. I guess that's one thing that's bugged me since I started posting here. Nobody believes."

So, as I said, you are no Wyoming fan...we are (regardless who the coach is by the way). Maybe you should start your own message board "BohlNation"?

This is one example of what I meant by that comment. In a preseason article ranking the FBS coaches, here's some responses:

No offense, but he hasn't coached one down of football. This is a bullshit article.

An optimistic article written by an outsider, and it's immediately shot down as "bullshit".

And when some other fans try defending the article, they get this treatment

What a bunch of generalizations and assumptions. Have your opinions, fine, just like I have mine, but leave the holier-than-thou-because-I-say shit for church.

Maybe there should be a posting requirement on certain topics...like you can only comment on a coaching change / hire, if you have personally attended 250 or more football games - or 300 or more basketball games. That way, nobody will toss up the "bandwagon" label.

Just like Wyoming fans don't being told how to think or post, neither do I. And I'm going to keep posting here because I know it bugs you. And when the team wins the MWC and you finally start believing in the coaching staff, I WILL toss up the "bandwagon" label, because that's exactly what you'll be doing.

 

[Brew_Poke]

I think outsiders have had more faith in him as a coach than the majority of the Wyoming fan base. I guess that's one thing that's bugged me since I started posting here. Nobody believes.

Good heavens, get off of it. For hell's sake, you have your panties in a wad because people are generally pleased with the coaching hire and overall direction of the program but aren't claiming Bohl is the second coming of Knute Rockne?

You realize that at this level, you need one hell of a lot more than 1 head coach to be successful, right? It doesn't seem that you can grasp this. Bohl will not succeed unless he has the support necessary to do so. To date, for over the past decade, we haven't been able to put together that right mix. I don't believe for a second that all of VK, Glenn, and DC were bad coaches; at least bad enough to fail to the level they did. There are other problems at WYO other than HC. Skepticism remains as to whether all holes are plugged or if just the HC hole is plugged. Get it?

Sheesh.

I like how the ESPN guys actually talked about this when they were showing pictures from Bohl's 3 Championships and said something like "Wyoming's got a ways to go still, but with this guy, they will win at the very least the Mountain West in a few years."

It wasn't a "could" or "might." It was "will."

I think outsiders have had more faith in him as a coach than the majority of the Wyoming fan base. I guess that's one thing that's bugged me since I started posting here. Nobody believes.

You need to go away...go back to rooting for the gophers. You have proven over and over again, you are not a Wyoming fan, but a Craig Bohl fan, which is fine, but we are about Wyoming here. Maybe you should have a pillowcase made with Bohl's picture on it you can snuggle up with at night.

Despite a great game last Saturday, Craig Bohl has accomplished basically nothing at UW at this point. And that is simply a fact, that isn't saying anything about the future, or what we all believe will happen down the road. We will "believe" when it happens - such is the life of a Wyoming fan.

I like how the ESPN guys actually talked about this when they were showing pictures from Bohl's 3 Championships and said something like "Wyoming's got a ways to go still, but with this guy, they will win at the very least the Mountain West in a few years."

It wasn't a "could" or "might." It was "will."

I think outsiders have had more faith in him as a coach than the majority of the Wyoming fan base. I guess that's one thing that's bugged me since I started posting here. Nobody believes.

LOL. Put bullshit in one hand, and belief in the other. Tell me which fills up first.

Stay classy, Wyoming.

It's a pretty sad program when you can't even be optimistic about the future without being shot down and insulted like this, and be told who you can or can't root for.

Is it hard to climb down off of that cross?

GTFOOH with your lame shit.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Stay classy, Wyoming.

It's a pretty sad program when you can't even be optimistic about the future without being shot down and insulted like this, and be told who you can or can't root for.

Comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? This is WYO where showing what you can do is far more important than telling what you can do. You are talking to people who have been through 15 years of failure and are still here and damn proud of it. People who still bleed brown and gold because it is us, our State, and our memories from going there. People that won't change teams or root for another team just because a coach does.

You can take your condescending little tone and stick right up your....

 

[joshvanklomp]

With diehard fans like you guys, no wonder the athletics department has struggled financially. No willingness to accept anyone who hasn't been with the program since the very beginning. How the hell do you expect the department to grow and flourish when fans don't even allow the fan base to grow without animosity towards new fans?

 

[Brew_Poke]

With diehard fans like you guys, no wonder the athletics department has struggled financially. No willingness to accept anyone who hasn't been with the program since the very beginning. How the hell do you expect the department to grow and flourish when fans don't even allow the fan base to grow without animosity towards new fans?

When has our athletics department ever struggled financially? We've always been amongst the most solvent AD's in our conference. Again, GTFOOH with your nonsense. At least try to act like you know what you're talking about. Do you just throw out words with no meaning?

 

[joshvanklomp]

With diehard fans like you guys, no wonder the athletics department has struggled financially. No willingness to accept anyone who hasn't been with the program since the very beginning. How the hell do you expect the department to grow and flourish when fans don't even allow the fan base to grow without animosity towards new fans?

When has our athletics department ever struggled financially? We've always been amongst the most solvent AD's in our conference. Again, GTFOOH with your nonsense. At least try to act like you know what you're talking about. Do you just throw out words with no meaning?

Wyoming was ninth in the Mountain West out of 12 member programs in total revenue last year. It also ranked ninth in total expenses and 11th in recruiting spending, according to USA Today's financial database and the Department of Education.

Last year, Wyoming's athletics department garnered $15.8 million from subsidies -- student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money. That's roughly 53.5 percent of its total budget.

If UW athletics does not receive further backing from the state via the supplemental budget proposals or a redistribution of block grant funds, its revenue likely won't increase significantly in 2015.

http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/wbb/university-of-wyoming-athletics-embarks-on-long-funding-journey/article_29e5425f-9ed9-584e-b933-22e815cf13f2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[BeaverPoke]

Whoa whoa whoa. Lay off joshvanklomp. No need for the bickering. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean we gotta go all out with the "just leave already" shit.

Yeah joshvanklomp you are right there is not a lot of optimism right now. Mostly because we are 4-5.
We have 2 bowl wins since 1967.
We want to win. NOW.
Sure we want to build for the future, but we are fucking sick and tired of waiting ya know?
Like, let's win a bowl game. THIS SEASON.
And next season.
AND THE SEASON AFTER.
And let's throw in some MWC titles too!

We don't like getting BLOWN out by the sheep.
We don't like seeing our 5th year QB miss a game winning TD an 8 year old could have made. Why Kirk did not throw that ball is really beyond me.
Anyways...

No point in arguing over whether someone believes or not, or not enough or whatever.
Let's beat the Aggies Friday and then you can say "I told you so".
Let's beat Boise State and you can say "TOLD YOU SO"
Let's go beat NM and you can really shout "TOLD YOU SO MOTHERF^^^^S".
Then let's win a bowl game and you can say.... well you get my point.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

I think everybody would do well not taking everything so damn personal.

 

[Wyokie]

I think everybody would do well not taking everything so damn personal.

Welcome to the U.S. of A. of the past, oh, 20 years. I blame lawyers. :roll:

 

[ragtimejoe1]

We disagree and I will leave it at that.

 

[Brew_Poke]

With diehard fans like you guys, no wonder the athletics department has struggled financially. No willingness to accept anyone who hasn't been with the program since the very beginning. How the hell do you expect the department to grow and flourish when fans don't even allow the fan base to grow without animosity towards new fans?

When has our athletics department ever struggled financially? We've always been amongst the most solvent AD's in our conference. Again, GTFOOH with your nonsense. At least try to act like you know what you're talking about. Do you just throw out words with no meaning?

Wyoming was ninth in the Mountain West out of 12 member programs in total revenue last year. It also ranked ninth in total expenses and 11th in recruiting spending, according to USA Today's financial database and the Department of Education.

Last year, Wyoming's athletics department garnered $15.8 million from subsidies -- student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money. That's roughly 53.5 percent of its total budget.

If UW athletics does not receive further backing from the state via the supplemental budget proposals or a redistribution of block grant funds, its revenue likely won't increase significantly in 2015.

http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/wbb/university-of-wyoming-athletics-embarks-on-long-funding-journey/article_29e5425f-9ed9-584e-b933-22e815cf13f2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for backing up my point.

 

[joshvanklomp]

It's too bad I'm not allowed into the "kool kidz klub" like all you LOYAL fans. I'm so hurt. Oh wait, no I'm not, I couldn't give a damn. I'm still going to post here, whether you like it or not.

And posting general insults my way isn't going to make me change my mind either. So go ahead and put me on your ignore list like your best buddy ragtimejoe1 did after I called him out, I'm sure that will make you all feel better.

And to straighten the record. I am not now, nor have I ever been, an NDSU fan. I haven't "changed teams just because a coach does". I have never said "we should be bowing down and worshipping the ground coach walks on". I have never told anyone how they should think or act. These are all accusations that have been thrown my way, and yet I'm the one that's told "don't insult our fanbase and not expect to be called out on it."

I don't care how long you've been a Wyoming fan or how many games you've been to, it doesn't make you any better of a fan than any of the rest of us.

 

[McPeachy]

I think everybody would do well not taking everything so damn personal.

While I certainly agree with your post...and as somebody else mentioned, guess I will just disagree.

It pisses me off that a fly-by-night fan of our football head coach (and that is all he is - when Bohl is gone, so is he), is telling me (a 45+ year fan of Wyoming) that because I am not drinking the koolaid, and not INSTANTLY believing our new head coach is the next coming of Bear Bryant, that I should be ashamed to call my self a fan...and basically that I am not a fan.

Fuck that. I have literally given hundreds of thousand of dollars to the University of Wyoming, via season tickets, foundation, art museum, COB, CJC, and numerous other donations, as well as many more tens of thousands in tuition and fees over many decades. I have endured 6 decades of Wyoming athletics, the ups, the downs, the new coaches, the expectations, the everything.

And so with that - when Bohl wins MWC championships, or when Bohl is no longer coaching because he fell on his ass (either one) - I will STILL be a supporter of everything Wyoming. EVERYTHING.

 

[joshvanklomp]

It pisses me off that a fly-by-night fan of our football head coach (and that is all he is - when Bohl is gone, so is he), is telling me (a 45+ year fan of Wyoming) that because I am not drinking the koolaid, and not INSTANTLY believing our new head coach is the next coming of Bear Bryant, that I should be ashamed to call my self a fan...and basically that I am not a fan.

Keep putting words in my mouth, because I have never said anyone should be ashamed to call themselves a fan or that they are not really a fan.

 

[McPeachy]

I don't care how long you've been a Wyoming fan or how many games you've been to, it doesn't make you any better of a fan than any of the rest of us.

Jesus.

It certainly makes a difference in how a fan looks at things. That is called human nature. True, it doesn't make anyone "any better of a fan", we all shit relatively the same. But FFS, why did you take the path of "you gotta believe, and if you don't you are wrong, and not a fan"? Most (if not all, except you and Lakebison) of the people here were fans before Bohl, and will be fans after Bohl. We will be fans after Shyatt, Legerski, and Branch as well. So we have tempered expectations...so what.

 

[Brew_Poke]

It's too bad I'm not allowed into the "kool kidz klub" like all you LOYAL fans. I'm so hurt. Oh wait, no I'm not, I couldn't give a damn. I'm still going to post here, whether you like it or not.

And posting general insults my way isn't going to make me change my mind either. So go ahead and put me on your ignore list like your best buddy ragtimejoe1 did after I called him out, I'm sure that will make you all feel better.

And to straighten the record. I am not now, nor have I ever been, an NDSU fan. I haven't "changed teams just because a coach does". I have never said "we should be bowing down and worshipping the ground coach walks on". I have never told anyone how they should think or act. These are all accusations that have been thrown my way, and yet I'm the one that's told "don't insult our fanbase and not expect to be called out on it."

I don't care how long you've been a Wyoming fan or how many games you've been to, it doesn't make you any better of a fan than any of the rest of us.

So why you whining so much, then?