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Anti-trust settlement

I realize I am a dinosaur in the new collegiate landscape but I have to say I agree with the Ivy League approach.
 
If we opt out, we might as well drop down to FCS because we would be at such a competitive disadvantage.
 
If we opt out, we might as well drop down to FCS because we would be at such a competitive disadvantage.
Aren’t we already at a competitive disadvantage? The G5 or whatever it is already has a significant advantage. Like I said, I am a dinosaur who appreciated “student athletes”. The guys going to three and four different schools chasing NIL $ aren’t doing it to receive a college degree. I wish I knew what the answer is, but the current state of affairs is untenable for the majority of schools.
 
Aren’t we already at a competitive disadvantage? The G5 or whatever it is already has a significant advantage. Like I said, I am a dinosaur who appreciated “student athletes”. The guys going to three and four different schools chasing NIL $ aren’t doing it to receive a college degree. I wish I knew what the answer is, but the current state of affairs is untenable for the majority of schools.
I realize I am a dinosaur in the new collegiate landscape but I have to say I agree with the Ivy League approach.
I agree. Wish the MWC would follow suit. Get back to college athletics. The Big 10 and SEC left everyone behind already so it doesn’t matter; let them have their own professional league.
 
Aren’t we already at a competitive disadvantage? The G5 or whatever it is already has a significant advantage. Like I said, I am a dinosaur who appreciated “student athletes”. The guys going to three and four different schools chasing NIL $ aren’t doing it to receive a college degree. I wish I knew what the answer is, but the current state of affairs is untenable for the majority of schools.
I meant at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the conference.

But yes, it is untenable for everyone not in the SEC. (The travel for the Big 10 is ludicrous - they will have to do something about it eventually)
 
I agree. Wish the MWC would follow suit. Get back to college athletics. The Big 10 and SEC left everyone behind already so it doesn’t matter; let them have their own professional league.
Exactly, and the time to do it is right now (actually it was like 10 years ago) so you aren't stuck with paying all these player "back wages". The most sensible decision is to "opt out" for all of these schools that are being "relegated" to the MWC. You'd start by saving the $1.8 million they are about to keep in the budget this year. If the leadership at UW and in the state had been paying attention they never should have done the $80 million in upgrades to the football stadium or the $60 million for the new pool. Would have saved the tax payers and the state so much money. We are throwing money away like crazy to lose basketball games at San Jose State.
 
College football is in flux. I don't see Wyoming or any of the teams that are the MW ever being on the same plane as the SEC or BIG10 as far as dollars. Further consolidation at the top is almost a foregone conclusion with 30-40 major "teams" and everyone else on the outside looking in.
 
College football is in flux. I don't see Wyoming or any of the teams that are the MW ever being on the same plane as the SEC or BIG10 as far as dollars. Further consolidation at the top is almost a foregone conclusion with 30-40 major "teams" and everyone else on the outside looking in.
If the trend continues that 30-40 number will dwindle to 15-20 as these programs cannabalize each other into a spending oblivion. Unless some sort of salary cap or oversight regulation is put in place.
 
It's time for an updated honest and in-depth roi study as it relates to athletics and the University. If it's a very positive roi, then it makes sense to continue or enhance funding. Certainly not to the level of the P4 but it would provide a clearer vision for the proper next steps.
 
It's time for an updated honest and in-depth roi study as it relates to athletics and the University. If it's a very positive roi, then it makes sense to continue or enhance funding. Certainly not to the level of the P4 but it would provide a clearer vision for the proper next steps.
Only thing this is doing is making Burman rich. $551k a year.
 
Talking about unsustainable if true. Schools going to Pac-whatever had to commit to spending what schools in Big 12 do on athletics. Talk about really going in the hole. Can't wait to see how that turns out, especially when they pay the MWC.
 
If Wyoming really wants to make this about education in any way they should opt out: https://www.espn.com/college-sports...gue-join-28-billion-ncaa-antitrust-settlement.

I assume the legislature is still keeping the $1.8 million in the budget, but . . .
You should change “assume” to “hope” they’ll keep it in the budget. Right now if you’re keeping up with the legislature, it appears they’d rather kill the university altogether. I just hold out hope that Crum’s voice advocates enough for UW and he can swing a few of them because he does understand the importance of the university and its athletic programs. I think we all know that the term student athlete is a farce. They’re athletes first nowadays and they’re in college to get paid. Maybe not what some like, but that’s a fact. Hopefully some of them complete a degree and have something to fall back on, but it’s no longer the priority. It all works hand in hand. If the teams are good, and get some national recognition, enrollment often increases. Bringing in more money to the state and to the town of Laramie. Gotta pay the good players so you can be good. Crazy cycle but it’s the world of college athletics. That’s why so many schools operate in the red.
 
I think we all know that the term student athlete is a farce. They’re athletes first nowadays and they’re in college to get paid. Maybe not what some like, but that’s a fact. Hopefully some of them complete a degree and have something to fall back on, but it’s no longer the priority. It all works hand in hand.
Maybe for p4 football and a small percentage of g6 players. Also maybe for bball to an extent. However, the vast majority of athletes in college are truly student athletes.
 
Maybe for p4 football and a small percentage of g6 players. Also maybe for bball to an extent. However, the vast majority of athletes in college are truly student athletes.
**Edit-these categories are my attempt to break this down into coherent categories...probably lot's of exceptions**

I think the categories are going to break down as follows...Most college athletes will fit into the bottom two categories:

Athletes getting paid (large effect on recruiting/retention of talent, Professional Model):
  • Pretty much every FB player at a Big10 or SEC school
  • Pretty much every MBB player at a Big10 or SEC school
  • Pretty much every MBB and FB player at select schools
    • Gonzaga MBB
    • Notre Dame FB
    • BYU (surprising amounts of money with these guys)
    • Other ....
  • Select high end WBB players/programs
    • UCONN
    • South Carolina
    • LSU
    • Other
  • Select NIL "celebrities"
    • Livvy Dunne (gymnastics)
    • Cavinder Twins
    • Shedur Sanders
    • Ashton Jeanty
    • etc
  • A generational talent at a big school...maybe a wrestler at Iowa or Penn St or a VB player at Nebraska.
Athletes as Employees (Medium effect on recruiting/retention...still a lot of money):
  • This group is getting whatever the going rate is at their school's collective plus whatever the split of the 20 million that is allowed to be paid by the school itself.
  • Pretty much all of the non-skill guys at FB programs like Virginia or Oklahoma St.
  • Lot's of WBB players at B10 and SEC Schools
  • Lot's of Olympic athletes at B10 and SEC Schools
Athletes at schools that are kidding themselves and the very low end of the big school athletes:
  • Probably a very large group...
  • Typically at schools have small to insignificant NIL opportunities to offer recruits.
  • These schools will struggle or be unable to pay out the 20 million to their athletes.
  • Some Olympic athletes at big schools and pretty much all Olympic athletes outside of the Big 10 and SEC.
True Student-Athletes (getting a schollie and that's about it):
  • The Ivy Leagues
  • The Vast Majority of FCS (maybe all of it?...I don't know the rules)
  • Most athletes at Schools like Wyoming.
If you are in the bottom two categories and have a path to being in one of the top two categories...I think 99% of athletes will take that chance. I would say 100%, but I think there are a handful of gifted athletes at the Ivy's that will stay even if they get an offer....that being said....not many will ever be good enough to even have the option.
 
Everything I've read said the revenue sharing can be disproportionate by sport as long as the funding formula is equal (i.e. can base on attendance, tv, or? ). I don't doubt that title ix suits will pop up.

However, you can't categorize the revenue sharing yet because that is yet to be seen. Maybe it is an equal split of roughly 22 mill but that's certainly not planned or settled.
 

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