And so it begins....

[BackHarlowRoad]

Wyovanian for prez.

 

[stymeman]

There is no I in team, unless you are the coaching staff, sad, i always thought once a cowboy always a cowboy, i always thought Uso portrayed the poster (if there was one) for Cowboy Tough, guess I was mistaken, all about keeping your position where you are

 

[cowboyz]

I have no idea about any of this, but, even if a player is hurt and if that player gave 4-5 years to the program, then that Senior should be able to participate in Senior Night in some capacity.

I would agree with this 100%.

Recognition of a guy's efforts for 4-5 years has nothing to do with being "bigger than the program".

I too agree he should have been allowed at his senior night activities. That sucks.

Having been in management (both mid-level and executive) for nearly twenty years, I've learned quite a bit about personal accounts of events- how they can be skewed by emotion and things being taken personally when they should be taken professionally. There is almost always an element of truth to accounts from all sides. When someone admits such a thing happened, I'd take that as truth, but I don't think the real motives behind that action are being framed accurately. Bohl is an executive, and that means tough choices have to be made. Very few executives want to make their jobs harder than they already are. Keeping ethos and pathos with the team you have to build and lead is crucial to the execution of the position. This is why we should all consider this account with a highly discerning eye and ear.

Whoever this player is (once a Cowboy, always a Cowboy, to borrow a phrase from Brandon Ewing), he deserves our thanks and admiration for his contributions as a player and teammate. However, it would be hasty and the acme of foolishness to accept his account completely on face value. I'm certain that his account of being more or less shunned from the team is likely true, but the veracity of the motives he assigns is dubious at best, given how little detail there really is, vis a vis, the coaching staff and Bohl's office.

In short, I'm far more inclined to trust the judgement of a seasoned executive like Bohl, than I am the judgement of someone with highly limited life experience that also has a deeply emotional connection to the events transpired.

If there's an ethics issue in the Wyoming Football Head Coach's office, it will eventually be exposed through a series of events and accounts from points-of-view far more diverse than the account of one, or even a few disappointed players. Until such things happen the default setting must be one of trust in the judgement of the executive charged with the task of running the enterprise. To do otherwise is simply undermining the foundation required for success, whether in College Football, Basketball, Volleyball, Swimming, running a department, etc.

In any undertaking, there will always be those involved who end up disappointed at the personal effect of any results. This is why no one is bigger than the totality of the endeavor.

True, we need to give Bohl the benefit of the doubt. However, as you state, ethics issues will be exposed through a series of events. Maybe this is the first of the series of events. If the player said nothing, then the first time we'd hear anything unethical is when something else came up. I hate that this player was or thinks he was treated like this. Let's see how Bohl and staff conduct themselves going forward and let time judge them. While we may all cheer the Brown & Gold, I feel we should be proud of, or at least not be embarrassed by the face of the program. I always felt a little dirty with DC leading the team, I hope I don't end up feeling the same towards Bohl.

 

[Slow Hand]

The first Big name player has called it quits for the University of Wyoming. Uso has announced that he is packing up and leaving. You will hear all kinds of reasons, but the bottom line is he does not want to be here. I Know there has been a lot of hype about our early verbals but I wonder how many other D1 offers they have? It is my belief that we will see some more follow him. I already made my point in the receiving corps....everyone of last years recruits have expressed a desire to leave. We are on very shaky ground right now with this program. I know many of you have expressed that you believe that Bohl will get it done here but I have always been a sceptic. Now with Uce leaving the hair on the back of my neck is beginning to stand up. This program could fall even deeper into the shitter than it already is. I did not think that was possible.........

This is a petty horse shit post full of stuff that is far from the truth. Uso's departure had NOTHING to do with the coaches or football, and he wanted to stay at Wyoming. His departure had to do with things that were away from football. So little minds like Slow Brain here will spread lying rumors and still talk like they are living in the guys jocks with them. Uso knows that the reason he is leaving is due to his decisions and he is NOT leaving because he doesn't want to be here anymore. Tracy exposed "Slow Brains" lies here and it is backed by by Uso's tweets. The proper way of starting this post, is "Slow Brain's" hatred toward the coaching staff has come up in his lies about them.

Like I said you will hear a lot of reasons why............. Case-in-point.

What else can someone say, when they are unwilling to say that they spread rumors that had no truth in them! The case in-point is that you got caught, period! Players leave for a variety of reasons, and many of them are not because they don't want to be here or don't like the coaches. Your small mind always runs to one reason, "the players don't want to be here because of the coaches." Players make choices that always aren't the best for themselves and this causes others to make decisions, this appears to be lost on you. Uso was honest in his tweets, why can't you be? Oh that is right, you have an axe to grind....and you never miss a chance even if it is spreading lies to do that. Again, the bottom line, is that you got caught.

So your info and passion is based on Tweets? Hmmm now who is the Simple minded one?

It is based upon much more than tweets "Slow Brain", it is based upon Tracy's posts, Uso's tweets and personal communication....I am a member of Cowboy Joe Club and I waited until I could hear the whole story before I reacted to hate rumors like yours. I did check it out, and the bottom line is that you got exposed for someone that spreads lying rumors! If there is anyone that is sure to take the low road and spread lying rumors it is you, "Slow Brain".

Your membership in the Cowboy Joe club in no way distinguishes you from any other person on this board. I too am a member, should we get into contributions as a measuring stick? It means nothing in that regard. It is obvious that all you can do is attack me on a personal level, name calling and such. All that is fine but I am fairly certain that my connection to these players and my information is on a whole different level than yours. So if it makes you feel better you can continue to attack and belittle me as much as you want. My posts have nothing to do with Bohl as a person/coach. It is more about the program and the direction it is taking.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

The first Big name player has called it quits for the University of Wyoming. Uso has announced that he is packing up and leaving. You will hear all kinds of reasons, but the bottom line is he does not want to be here. I Know there has been a lot of hype about our early verbals but I wonder how many other D1 offers they have? It is my belief that we will see some more follow him. I already made my point in the receiving corps....everyone of last years recruits have expressed a desire to leave. We are on very shaky ground right now with this program. I know many of you have expressed that you believe that Bohl will get it done here but I have always been a sceptic. Now with Uce leaving the hair on the back of my neck is beginning to stand up. This program could fall even deeper into the shitter than it already is. I did not think that was possible.........

This is a petty horse shit post full of stuff that is far from the truth. Uso's departure had NOTHING to do with the coaches or football, and he wanted to stay at Wyoming. His departure had to do with things that were away from football. So little minds like Slow Brain here will spread lying rumors and still talk like they are living in the guys jocks with them. Uso knows that the reason he is leaving is due to his decisions and he is NOT leaving because he doesn't want to be here anymore. Tracy exposed "Slow Brains" lies here and it is backed by by Uso's tweets. The proper way of starting this post, is "Slow Brain's" hatred toward the coaching staff has come up in his lies about them.

Like I said you will hear a lot of reasons why............. Case-in-point.

What else can someone say, when they are unwilling to say that they spread rumors that had no truth in them! The case in-point is that you got caught, period! Players leave for a variety of reasons, and many of them are not because they don't want to be here or don't like the coaches. Your small mind always runs to one reason, "the players don't want to be here because of the coaches." Players make choices that always aren't the best for themselves and this causes others to make decisions, this appears to be lost on you. Uso was honest in his tweets, why can't you be? Oh that is right, you have an axe to grind....and you never miss a chance even if it is spreading lies to do that. Again, the bottom line, is that you got caught.

So your info and passion is based on Tweets? Hmmm now who is the Simple minded one?

It is based upon much more than tweets "Slow Brain", it is based upon Tracy's posts, Uso's tweets and personal communication....I am a member of Cowboy Joe Club and I waited until I could hear the whole story before I reacted to hate rumors like yours. I did check it out, and the bottom line is that you got exposed for someone that spreads lying rumors! If there is anyone that is sure to take the low road and spread lying rumors it is you, "Slow Brain".

Your membership in the Cowboy Joe club in no way distinguishes you from any other person on this board. I too am a member, should we get into contributions as a measuring stick? It means nothing in that regard. It is obvious that all you can do is attack me on a personal level, name calling and such. All that is fine but I am fairly certain that my connection to these players and my information is on a whole different level than yours. So if it makes you feel better you can continue to attack and belittle me as much as you want. My posts have nothing to do with Bohl as a person/coach. It is more about the program and the direction it is taking.

When you spread rumors that are full of lies, and use these lies to grind a personal axe in a petty way, yes I will continue to call you out on it. Only someone as intellectually dishonest as you will say that your posts have nothing to do with the head coach as a person/coach, when in your other post in this thread you say that a player doesn't want to be in the program because of the coaches. It is evident that you have no problem speaking out of both side of your mouth in the same thread. You can not separate the program and the direction it is taking from the head coach who is directing the direction it is taking. Who in the hell do you think will believe that load of bull that you are attempting to spread? The bottom line again, is that you are a petty person with a person axe to grind and you got caught spreading lying rumors to attack people in a lying fashion simple because you personally want to.....there isn't anything more petty than someone that does this.

 

[Slow Hand]

The first Big name player has called it quits for the University of Wyoming. Uso has announced that he is packing up and leaving. You will hear all kinds of reasons, but the bottom line is he does not want to be here. I Know there has been a lot of hype about our early verbals but I wonder how many other D1 offers they have? It is my belief that we will see some more follow him. I already made my point in the receiving corps....everyone of last years recruits have expressed a desire to leave. We are on very shaky ground right now with this program. I know many of you have expressed that you believe that Bohl will get it done here but I have always been a sceptic. Now with Uce leaving the hair on the back of my neck is beginning to stand up. This program could fall even deeper into the shitter than it already is. I did not think that was possible.........

This is a petty horse shit post full of stuff that is far from the truth. Uso's departure had NOTHING to do with the coaches or football, and he wanted to stay at Wyoming. His departure had to do with things that were away from football. So little minds like Slow Brain here will spread lying rumors and still talk like they are living in the guys jocks with them. Uso knows that the reason he is leaving is due to his decisions and he is NOT leaving because he doesn't want to be here anymore. Tracy exposed "Slow Brains" lies here and it is backed by by Uso's tweets. The proper way of starting this post, is "Slow Brain's" hatred toward the coaching staff has come up in his lies about them.

Like I said you will hear a lot of reasons why............. Case-in-point.

What else can someone say, when they are unwilling to say that they spread rumors that had no truth in them! The case in-point is that you got caught, period! Players leave for a variety of reasons, and many of them are not because they don't want to be here or don't like the coaches. Your small mind always runs to one reason, "the players don't want to be here because of the coaches." Players make choices that always aren't the best for themselves and this causes others to make decisions, this appears to be lost on you. Uso was honest in his tweets, why can't you be? Oh that is right, you have an axe to grind....and you never miss a chance even if it is spreading lies to do that. Again, the bottom line, is that you got caught.

So your info and passion is based on Tweets? Hmmm now who is the Simple minded one?

It is based upon much more than tweets "Slow Brain", it is based upon Tracy's posts, Uso's tweets and personal communication....I am a member of Cowboy Joe Club and I waited until I could hear the whole story before I reacted to hate rumors like yours. I did check it out, and the bottom line is that you got exposed for someone that spreads lying rumors! If there is anyone that is sure to take the low road and spread lying rumors it is you, "Slow Brain".

Your membership in the Cowboy Joe club in no way distinguishes you from any other person on this board. I too am a member, should we get into contributions as a measuring stick? It means nothing in that regard. It is obvious that all you can do is attack me on a personal level, name calling and such. All that is fine but I am fairly certain that my connection to these players and my information is on a whole different level than yours. So if it makes you feel better you can continue to attack and belittle me as much as you want. My posts have nothing to do with Bohl as a person/coach. It is more about the program and the direction it is taking.

When you spread rumors that are full of lies, and use these lies to grind a personal axe in a petty way, yes I will continue to call you out on it. Only someone as intellectually dishonest as you will say that your posts have nothing to do with the head coach as a person/coach, when in your other post in this thread you say that a player doesn't want to be in the program because of the coaches. It is evident that you have no problem speaking out of both side of your mouth in the same thread. You can not separate the program and the direction it is taking from the head coach who is directing the direction it is taking. Who in the hell do you think will believe that load of bull that you are attempting to spread? The bottom line again, is that you are a petty person with a person axe to grind and you got caught spreading lying rumors to attack people in a lying fashion simple because you personally want to.....there isn't anything more petty than someone that does this.

Once again......I don't care what you think. If you need to continue to make yourself feel better by all means play on sir! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[wyopig]

After reading up on everything and doing a bit of reading between the lines it looks like Bohl didn't like Will having a job in addition to playing football. As a walk-on he needed a job. Will wanted to get a scholarship so he wouldn't have to work. When they didn't offer him one it sounded like he was still willing to stay as a walk-on and continue working but Bohl didn't want someone with a job on the team because it cuts on the time to focus on football so he kicked him off the team. I don't have an opinion on if Will should have been given a scholarship or not but thought in 2014 he played really well and thought he could have deserved one after last season. This year he didn't do much but sounds like he had some injury issues.

Its also up to Bohl if he wants players on the team to have jobs or not but if they are walk-ons what else are they supposed to do. Thats the concerning part for me. With all the talk about building a strong walk-on program and getting local kids to walk-on and focus locally and build up the walk-on program like Nebraska, not allowing a local kid to walk-on(especially one who as contributed to the team), along with all the other walk-ons that left during the season raises some red flags for me.

I read this as Will didn't produce last year because he was tired from having a job, which affords him the opportunity to go to school, and adding football on top of that. The kid is a year from graduating, so Bohl is helping Will make a difficult decision...to give up football and focus on completing his education. How Tutein reacted tells me that it probably wasn't that tough to cut the kid, especially when you absolutely know that it's in the kid's best interests.

If he didn't want him to have a job, he wouldn't have had a job. I'm sure he's honest with walk-ons in telling them that it's a tough life, and if they need to work to afford school, he's not going to cut them any slack or provide special treatment just because they aren't on scholarship.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

I have no idea about any of this, but, even if a player is hurt and if that player gave 4-5 years to the program, then that Senior should be able to participate in Senior Night in some capacity.

I would agree with this 100%.

Recognition of a guy's efforts for 4-5 years has nothing to do with being "bigger than the program".

I too agree he should have been allowed at his senior night activities. That sucks.

Having been in management (both mid-level and executive) for nearly twenty years, I've learned quite a bit about personal accounts of events- how they can be skewed by emotion and things being taken personally when they should be taken professionally. There is almost always an element of truth to accounts from all sides. When someone admits such a thing happened, I'd take that as truth, but I don't think the real motives behind that action are being framed accurately. Bohl is an executive, and that means tough choices have to be made. Very few executives want to make their jobs harder than they already are. Keeping ethos and pathos with the team you have to build and lead is crucial to the execution of the position. This is why we should all consider this account with a highly discerning eye and ear.

Whoever this player is (once a Cowboy, always a Cowboy, to borrow a phrase from Brandon Ewing), he deserves our thanks and admiration for his contributions as a player and teammate. However, it would be hasty and the acme of foolishness to accept his account completely on face value. I'm certain that his account of being more or less shunned from the team is likely true, but the veracity of the motives he assigns is dubious at best, given how little detail there really is, vis a vis, the coaching staff and Bohl's office.

In short, I'm far more inclined to trust the judgement of a seasoned executive like Bohl, than I am the judgement of someone with highly limited life experience that also has a deeply emotional connection to the events transpired.

If there's an ethics issue in the Wyoming Football Head Coach's office, it will eventually be exposed through a series of events and accounts from points-of-view far more diverse than the account of one, or even a few disappointed players. Until such things happen the default setting must be one of trust in the judgement of the executive charged with the task of running the enterprise. To do otherwise is simply undermining the foundation required for success, whether in College Football, Basketball, Volleyball, Swimming, running a department, etc.

In any undertaking, there will always be those involved who end up disappointed at the personal effect of any results. This is why no one is bigger than the totality of the endeavor.

Oh I agree which is why I've avoided condemning anyone, coach or player. My post was more a general comment which I think is largely true depending on circumstances.

 

[jarhead]

Ok, I have been lurking on this thread for a little while. Perhaps I can add some insight. My son was offered a scholarship from a walk-on status. We like to think that he earned this offer because of his relentless work ethic and willingness to do anything for the football team. It is also feasible to think that the coaches believed that he may contribute on the field at some point. However in the Mich St game last year he sustained what turned out to be a career ending injury. He too was asked not to go to the team meetings any longer, or attend the weight lifting sessions, or go to practice. Now if I were to leave it there it would seem to support some of the claims on this thread. But, what many people don't realize is that when an athlete is medically disqualified, as my son was, the scholarship is no longer policed by the football team. He becomes a ward of the school, so to speak. Therefore his involvement in the earlier mentioned activities would be viewed as an NCAA violation.

Now let me tell you how he was treated by the staff after he was injured.... They continued to support him even though he was no longer contributing to the team. They continued to provide medical treatment and support for his injury. He still receives medical attention through the training room for his injury. Two of his coaches, including Bohl, wrote letters of recommendation so that he could apply to grad school as well.

I am no there to pass judgement on anyone but please understand that at this level it is truly "the next man up" mentality and it has nothing to do with the kid or the injury. It is simply a business in which they, the coaches, must perform. their jobs depend on it.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

The first Big name player has called it quits for the University of Wyoming. Uso has announced that he is packing up and leaving. You will hear all kinds of reasons, but the bottom line is he does not want to be here. I Know there has been a lot of hype about our early verbals but I wonder how many other D1 offers they have? It is my belief that we will see some more follow him. I already made my point in the receiving corps....everyone of last years recruits have expressed a desire to leave. We are on very shaky ground right now with this program. I know many of you have expressed that you believe that Bohl will get it done here but I have always been a sceptic. Now with Uce leaving the hair on the back of my neck is beginning to stand up. This program could fall even deeper into the shitter than it already is. I did not think that was possible.........

This is a petty horse shit post full of stuff that is far from the truth. Uso's departure had NOTHING to do with the coaches or football, and he wanted to stay at Wyoming. His departure had to do with things that were away from football. So little minds like Slow Brain here will spread lying rumors and still talk like they are living in the guys jocks with them. Uso knows that the reason he is leaving is due to his decisions and he is NOT leaving because he doesn't want to be here anymore. Tracy exposed "Slow Brains" lies here and it is backed by by Uso's tweets. The proper way of starting this post, is "Slow Brain's" hatred toward the coaching staff has come up in his lies about them.

Like I said you will hear a lot of reasons why............. Case-in-point.

What else can someone say, when they are unwilling to say that they spread rumors that had no truth in them! The case in-point is that you got caught, period! Players leave for a variety of reasons, and many of them are not because they don't want to be here or don't like the coaches. Your small mind always runs to one reason, "the players don't want to be here because of the coaches." Players make choices that always aren't the best for themselves and this causes others to make decisions, this appears to be lost on you. Uso was honest in his tweets, why can't you be? Oh that is right, you have an axe to grind....and you never miss a chance even if it is spreading lies to do that. Again, the bottom line, is that you got caught.

So your info and passion is based on Tweets? Hmmm now who is the Simple minded one?

It is based upon much more than tweets "Slow Brain", it is based upon Tracy's posts, Uso's tweets and personal communication....I am a member of Cowboy Joe Club and I waited until I could hear the whole story before I reacted to hate rumors like yours. I did check it out, and the bottom line is that you got exposed for someone that spreads lying rumors! If there is anyone that is sure to take the low road and spread lying rumors it is you, "Slow Brain".

Your membership in the Cowboy Joe club in no way distinguishes you from any other person on this board. I too am a member, should we get into contributions as a measuring stick? It means nothing in that regard. It is obvious that all you can do is attack me on a personal level, name calling and such. All that is fine but I am fairly certain that my connection to these players and my information is on a whole different level than yours. So if it makes you feel better you can continue to attack and belittle me as much as you want. My posts have nothing to do with Bohl as a person/coach. It is more about the program and the direction it is taking.

When you spread rumors that are full of lies, and use these lies to grind a personal axe in a petty way, yes I will continue to call you out on it. Only someone as intellectually dishonest as you will say that your posts have nothing to do with the head coach as a person/coach, when in your other post in this thread you say that a player doesn't want to be in the program because of the coaches. It is evident that you have no problem speaking out of both side of your mouth in the same thread. You can not separate the program and the direction it is taking from the head coach who is directing the direction it is taking. Who in the hell do you think will believe that load of bull that you are attempting to spread? The bottom line again, is that you are a petty person with a person axe to grind and you got caught spreading lying rumors to attack people in a lying fashion simple because you personally want to.....there isn't anything more petty than someone that does this.

Once again......I don't care what you think. If you need to continue to make yourself feel better by all means play on sir! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

There are too many people like you, who get caught lying then try to act like it doesn't mean anything to them that they got caught. I have no doubt that getting caught lying means nothing to you, because it is evident that it isn't the first time and won't be the last and something like the truth is something is something that you try to spin to others, and that not having a conscience is something that you have learned to live to with for a long time. Unfortunately for you, there are others on here that have seen you lie and twist things to make your own reality so you can grind personal axes. In the end it will come back to bite you.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Thank you for the insight jarhead. If you are at liberty to say and if not too personal, did the University continue financial support? If not, I'm certainly not condemning Bohl or UW, but I do think that is something that needs changed nationally. If a kid gets hurt there needs to be systems in place to continue financial support for academics. I hope that happened in your son's case; I know that is sometimes not.

 

[knhendon]

No "I" in team....

pfffffffffffttttt

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Ok, I have been lurking on this thread for a little while. Perhaps I can add some insight. My son was offered a scholarship from a walk-on status. We like to think that he earned this offer because of his relentless work ethic and willingness to do anything for the football team. It is also feasible to think that the coaches believed that he may contribute on the field at some point. However in the Mich St game last year he sustained what turned out to be a career ending injury. He too was asked not to go to the team meetings any longer, or attend the weight lifting sessions, or go to practice. Now if I were to leave it there it would seem to support some of the claims on this thread. But, what many people don't realize is that when an athlete is medically disqualified, as my son was, the scholarship is no longer policed by the football team. He becomes a ward of the school, so to speak. Therefore his involvement in the earlier mentioned activities would be viewed as an NCAA violation.

Now let me tell you how he was treated by the staff after he was injured.... They continued to support him even though he was no longer contributing to the team. They continued to provide medical treatment and support for his injury. He still receives medical attention through the training room for his injury. Two of his coaches, including Bohl, wrote letters of recommendation so that he could apply to grad school as well.

I am no there to pass judgement on anyone but please understand that at this level it is truly "the next man up" mentality and it has nothing to do with the kid or the injury. It is simply a business in which they, the coaches, must perform. their jobs depend on it.

Thanks Jarhead, good information

 

[Slow Hand]

The first Big name player has called it quits for the University of Wyoming. Uso has announced that he is packing up and leaving. You will hear all kinds of reasons, but the bottom line is he does not want to be here. I Know there has been a lot of hype about our early verbals but I wonder how many other D1 offers they have? It is my belief that we will see some more follow him. I already made my point in the receiving corps....everyone of last years recruits have expressed a desire to leave. We are on very shaky ground right now with this program. I know many of you have expressed that you believe that Bohl will get it done here but I have always been a sceptic. Now with Uce leaving the hair on the back of my neck is beginning to stand up. This program could fall even deeper into the shitter than it already is. I did not think that was possible.........

This is a petty horse shit post full of stuff that is far from the truth. Uso's departure had NOTHING to do with the coaches or football, and he wanted to stay at Wyoming. His departure had to do with things that were away from football. So little minds like Slow Brain here will spread lying rumors and still talk like they are living in the guys jocks with them. Uso knows that the reason he is leaving is due to his decisions and he is NOT leaving because he doesn't want to be here anymore. Tracy exposed "Slow Brains" lies here and it is backed by by Uso's tweets. The proper way of starting this post, is "Slow Brain's" hatred toward the coaching staff has come up in his lies about them.

Like I said you will hear a lot of reasons why............. Case-in-point.

What else can someone say, when they are unwilling to say that they spread rumors that had no truth in them! The case in-point is that you got caught, period! Players leave for a variety of reasons, and many of them are not because they don't want to be here or don't like the coaches. Your small mind always runs to one reason, "the players don't want to be here because of the coaches." Players make choices that always aren't the best for themselves and this causes others to make decisions, this appears to be lost on you. Uso was honest in his tweets, why can't you be? Oh that is right, you have an axe to grind....and you never miss a chance even if it is spreading lies to do that. Again, the bottom line, is that you got caught.

So your info and passion is based on Tweets? Hmmm now who is the Simple minded one?

It is based upon much more than tweets "Slow Brain", it is based upon Tracy's posts, Uso's tweets and personal communication....I am a member of Cowboy Joe Club and I waited until I could hear the whole story before I reacted to hate rumors like yours. I did check it out, and the bottom line is that you got exposed for someone that spreads lying rumors! If there is anyone that is sure to take the low road and spread lying rumors it is you, "Slow Brain".

Your membership in the Cowboy Joe club in no way distinguishes you from any other person on this board. I too am a member, should we get into contributions as a measuring stick? It means nothing in that regard. It is obvious that all you can do is attack me on a personal level, name calling and such. All that is fine but I am fairly certain that my connection to these players and my information is on a whole different level than yours. So if it makes you feel better you can continue to attack and belittle me as much as you want. My posts have nothing to do with Bohl as a person/coach. It is more about the program and the direction it is taking.

When you spread rumors that are full of lies, and use these lies to grind a personal axe in a petty way, yes I will continue to call you out on it. Only someone as intellectually dishonest as you will say that your posts have nothing to do with the head coach as a person/coach, when in your other post in this thread you say that a player doesn't want to be in the program because of the coaches. It is evident that you have no problem speaking out of both side of your mouth in the same thread. You can not separate the program and the direction it is taking from the head coach who is directing the direction it is taking. Who in the hell do you think will believe that load of bull that you are attempting to spread? The bottom line again, is that you are a petty person with a person axe to grind and you got caught spreading lying rumors to attack people in a lying fashion simple because you personally want to.....there isn't anything more petty than someone that does this.

Once again......I don't care what you think. If you need to continue to make yourself feel better by all means play on sir! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

There are too many people like you, who get caught lying then try to act like it doesn't mean anything to them that they got caught. I have no doubt that getting caught lying means nothing to you, because it is evident that it isn't the first time and won't be the last and something like the truth is something is something that you try to spin to others, and that not having a conscience is something that you have learned to live to with for a long time. Unfortunately for you, there are others on here that have seen you lie and twist things to make your own reality so you can grind personal axes. In the end it will come back to bite you.

I can feel the love.......

 

[jarhead]

Thank you for the insight jarhead. If you are at liberty to say and if not too personal, did the University continue financial support? If not, I'm certainly not condemning Bohl or UW, but I do think that is something that needs changed nationally. If a kid gets hurt there needs to be systems in place to continue financial support for academics. I hope that happened in your son's case; I know that is sometimes not.

Yes they honored his scholarship, and continue to do so.

 

[djm19]

jarhead just summarized what many of us have been saying. Two sides to everything.

What is crappy is that the current pissing match going on in this thread just buried the most informative post in all six pages.

Tanner was, is and will always be a Cowboy.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Thank you for the insight jarhead. If you are at liberty to say and if not too personal, did the University continue financial support? If not, I'm certainly not condemning Bohl or UW, but I do think that is something that needs changed nationally. If a kid gets hurt there needs to be systems in place to continue financial support for academics. I hope that happened in your son's case; I know that is sometimes not.

Yes they honored his scholarship, and continue to do so.

Fantastic! That makes me very happy and is a testament to how things are handled. Huge kudos to Bohl, Burman, and UW for honoring their commitment to a fine young man!

 

[stymeman]

on to the next subject, lol

 

[Wyovanian]

Ok, I have been lurking on this thread for a little while. Perhaps I can add some insight. My son was offered a scholarship from a walk-on status. We like to think that he earned this offer because of his relentless work ethic and willingness to do anything for the football team. It is also feasible to think that the coaches believed that he may contribute on the field at some point. However in the Mich St game last year he sustained what turned out to be a career ending injury. He too was asked not to go to the team meetings any longer, or attend the weight lifting sessions, or go to practice. Now if I were to leave it there it would seem to support some of the claims on this thread. But, what many people don't realize is that when an athlete is medically disqualified, as my son was, the scholarship is no longer policed by the football team. He becomes a ward of the school, so to speak. Therefore his involvement in the earlier mentioned activities would be viewed as an NCAA violation.

Now let me tell you how he was treated by the staff after he was injured.... They continued to support him even though he was no longer contributing to the team. They continued to provide medical treatment and support for his injury. He still receives medical attention through the training room for his injury. Two of his coaches, including Bohl, wrote letters of recommendation so that he could apply to grad school as well.

I am no there to pass judgement on anyone but please understand that at this level it is truly "the next man up" mentality and it has nothing to do with the kid or the injury. It is simply a business in which they, the coaches, must perform. their jobs depend on it.

"And now... the REST of the story." -Paul Harvey

Good day.

 

[Hampshire]

So just to clarify , it should of been communicated as such to the player sounds like .