And so it begins....

[HokeyPokey]

Ok here it goes...

I am a former starter who had a number of injuries throughout the last years of my career. Prior to having any injuries Bohl was always very friendly and caring, a player's coach. One of the injuries occurred halfway through the season. The expected recovery time was said to be 4-6 weeks, which I was brought back in 3 due to need on the field. This I didn't have too much of an issue with because it was my last season of football and I wanted to play. The issue occurred weeks later. I received another injury due to overcompensation for the first and was forced to sit out again. This is when Bohl started acting funny..

Long story short I was told I would have to receive season ending surgery. I let Bohl know and I was given a "best wishes" along with a door being slammed in my face. After this I was pretty much banned from the team. I was not allowed to attend any practices or team functions. I was kicked out of the weight room just for being there, and my teammates were told that I was a quitter. The night before our Proday I received a text from an assistant coach stating that coach Bohl said that I can't participate or come watch and support my teammates.

Some of you may call me soft but I highly question this man's character. The first thing Bohl told us was "players don't care about what you know, until they know that you care". I was essentially cut from the team for an injury that I received while trying to play on a preexisting injury. I put my body on the line for this man and was tossed away when I could no longer be used. You may say "that's how it is in the workplace, real world, etc." but a team isn't any of those things

Thank you for your response. Thank you for your sacrifice for Cowboy football. I would just strongly encourage you to make sure and think of the big picture as well.

Sorry for your misfortune. You (whoever you are), will always be a Cowboy in my book, so thank you. I would just ask that you don't burn down the fort on your way out. It is a lose-lose.

Exactly why I held out for so long. If it only effected me I could go on my way, I have a lot of other positive things in my life I can look to. But when it's effecting my former teammates, guys I went onto the field with everyday, the guys that helped me make it through the culture shock of moving to Laramie and are part of the reason I have my degree today... that's where my issue stands.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I guess it's hard to want to believe your situation when Xavier Lewis was not only kept around but offered a team position.

I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the team but, to me, you just described a very vague situation that happens in every program around the country. I'm sorry you feel slighted and sorry it ended on terms we all can agree sucked. I don't wish harm or injury on anyone. But to slander and libel a coach because he didn't hand out orange slices at the end of the season is ridiculous. Just like this board cries all the time, players owe no loyalty to coaches or universities, well it's painful when the roles reverse

 

[HokeyPokey]

I guess it's hard to want to believe your situation when Xavier Lewis was not only kept around but offered a team position.

I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the team but, to me, you just described a very vague situation that happens in every program around the country. I'm sorry you feel slighted and sorry it ended on terms we all can agree sucked. I don't wish harm or injury on anyone. But to slander and libel a coach because he didn't hand out orange slices at the end of the season is ridiculous. Just like this board cries all the time, players owe no loyalty to coaches or universities, well it's painful when the roles reverse

Xavier Lewis' situation is very different and was a national story.

You look at the post as vague but if you did any form of research you could easily find out who I am. I'm not here looking for sympathy, I came to this board to shed some light for the users who think Bohl is a saint. But after posting I think that maybe I shouldn't anymore... I'll let you guys live in your world of questions and rumors. I'm not asking for orange slices, but it would have been nice to have been allowed to attend my senior night.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I guess it's hard to want to believe your situation when Xavier Lewis was not only kept around but offered a team position.

I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the team but, to me, you just described a very vague situation that happens in every program around the country. I'm sorry you feel slighted and sorry it ended on terms we all can agree sucked. I don't wish harm or injury on anyone. But to slander and libel a coach because he didn't hand out orange slices at the end of the season is ridiculous. Just like this board cries all the time, players owe no loyalty to coaches or universities, well it's painful when the roles reverse

Xavier Lewis' situation is very different and was a national story.

You look at the post as vague but if you did any form of research you could easily find out who I am. I'm not here looking for sympathy, I came to this board to shed some light for the users who think Bohl is a saint. But after posting I think that maybe I shouldn't anymore... I'll let you guys live in your world of questions and rumors. I'm not asking for orange slices, but it would have been nice to have been allowed to attend my senior night.

Let us live in our world of questions and rumors? You answered nothing. You drummed up some generic after school special story about being treated badly without any dates, names, facts or anything substantive. You've shown nothing to prove Bohl is anything other than coach at a university desperately trying to find a new identity. Just like the 3 who left today, not everyone fits.

The senior night thing sucks. If that's true, I'm sorry.

 

[djm19]

I think we all agree that no coach is saint. I am just asking that you take a step back and put yourself in his shoes. He is being paid a lot of money to make sure the football program is firing on all cylinders. Say and do hard things. Sorry man. Thanks for the hard work in playing for the Pokes. I would simply suggest that you (to extent possible) forget about it. What's done is done. Learn from it, but don't get caught up in the he said she said BS. We are schmuck fans who live and die for UW sports. You were( are) a student athlete who has a life ahead of you. What you do here can be a valuable lesson for your future.

 

[HokeyPokey]

I think we all agree that no coach is saint. I am just asking that you take a step back and put yourself in his shoes. He is being paid a lot of money to make sure the football program is firing on all cylinders. Say and do hard things. Sorry man. Thanks for the hard work in playing for the Pokes. I would simply suggest that you (to extent possible) forget about it. What's done is done. Learn from it, but don't get caught up in the he said she said BS. We are schmuck fans who live and die for UW sports. You were( are) a student athlete who has a life ahead of you. What you do here can be a valuable lesson for your future.

Wise words... I think my time on this forum is done. Go Pokes!

 

[Yabadabadoo]

And so based upon his story and the descriptions contained in his piece...anyone want to take a shot at who this individual is?

 

[laxwyo]

I think we all agree that no coach is saint. I am just asking that you take a step back and put yourself in his shoes. He is being paid a lot of money to make sure the football program is firing on all cylinders. Say and do hard things. Sorry man. Thanks for the hard work in playing for the Pokes. I would simply suggest that you (to extent possible) forget about it. What's done is done. Learn from it, but don't get caught up in the he said she said BS. We are schmuck fans who live and die for UW sports. You were( are) a student athlete who has a life ahead of you. What you do here can be a valuable lesson for your future.

Wise words... I think my time on this forum is done. Go Pokes!

Hokey, Thanks for all your hard work and I'm sorry it didn't work out.

I had seen an interview with Bohl something that led me to believe that Bohl believes that you should play through injury and if you didn't, you're a pussy. At the time, his response bothered me. I'm not saying that Bohl believes you should play through concussions or major injury but if you're nicked up, you should be practicing instead of nursing your injury.

I bet hokey would validate this belief.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

I know who Hokey is.

On one hand, I want to tell everyone to end the mystery, his description checks out as far as timelines are concerned 100%.

On the other hand, I don't want to out the man if he doesn't want to be outed.

 

[Yabadabadoo]

I know who Hokey is.

On one hand, I want to tell everyone to end the mystery, his description checks out as far as timelines are concerned 100%.

On the other hand, I don't want to out the man if he doesn't want to be outed.

Alex Borgs?

 

[ragtimejoe1]

I think we all agree that no coach is saint. I am just asking that you take a step back and put yourself in his shoes. He is being paid a lot of money to make sure the football program is firing on all cylinders. Say and do hard things. Sorry man. Thanks for the hard work in playing for the Pokes. I would simply suggest that you (to extent possible) forget about it. What's done is done. Learn from it, but don't get caught up in the he said she said BS. We are schmuck fans who live and die for UW sports. You were( are) a student athlete who has a life ahead of you. What you do here can be a valuable lesson for your future.

Wise words... I think my time on this forum is done. Go Pokes!

Hope you are still reading. Thanks for the comments and for your time at WYO. Best of luck with your future and I hope you still chime in from time to time. Hell, change usernames.

Don't take anything too serious on here. We even had someone question if Larry Nance was overrated, if you can believe that.

 

[Hampshire]

This seems about right and recruits need to take note as well as current players, maybe this treatment will stop there has been more then just this of course.

 

[djm19]

I think we all agree that no coach is saint. I am just asking that you take a step back and put yourself in his shoes. He is being paid a lot of money to make sure the football program is firing on all cylinders. Say and do hard things. Sorry man. Thanks for the hard work in playing for the Pokes. I would simply suggest that you (to extent possible) forget about it. What's done is done. Learn from it, but don't get caught up in the he said she said BS. We are schmuck fans who live and die for UW sports. You were( are) a student athlete who has a life ahead of you. What you do here can be a valuable lesson for your future.

Wise words... I think my time on this forum is done. Go Pokes!

Hope you are still reading. Thanks for the comments and for your time at WYO. Best of luck with your future and I hope you still chime in from time to time. Hell, change usernames.

Don't take anything too serious on here. We even had someone question if Larry Nance was overrated, if you can believe that.

On multiple occasions...

 

[Hampshire]

Thanks hokey pokie for trying to enlighten people on this subject, some just will not except it and do not want to hear it , that is the problem here actually.

 

[djm19]

Thanks hokey pokie for trying to enlighten people on this subject, some just will not except it and do not want to hear it , that is the problem here actually.

That's not a fully accurate assumption either. Many on here were Poke fans before these players were even born. Wyoming pride is real, it is passionate. And not just sports. It's a state thing.

So, yes, although I appreciate some insight from "within," I have also been in business, etc long enough, that if you ask a former employee who left on rocky terms, you can expect a very passionate response. A restaurant can have 100 positive experiences, and one bad, and which will you read online? Not the prior. Point is, we all want our voices heard and people "to see our point of view." But to say some of us "don't want to hear this" is a very broad and generalized statement. I want the team to win, period. I don't want players being treated like crap, but sometimes it takes two.

 

[stymeman]

Maybe Uso isn't as tough as we all thought, good riddance, as it pains me to say....
As for the Kicker, we all saw this coming
And for Tuetein, a walkon not given a chance, yes it's about performance etc...but Burman needs to heed this next year if Bohl and the staff goes 2-10 3-9 next year, we gotta see something better, anything

 

[ragtimejoe1]

I'm speaking more globally here and in no way justifying it, but college athletics has a seedy underbelly, so to speak. Pulling scholarships, pulling offers, encouraging kids to play hurt, etc. etc. There are also lots of good things and good stories.

The negative plights of student athletes where our academic institutions acted, well, non-academic, would make an interesting story. One that should be told, IMO.

I've long contended that student athletes get screwed. I get the free education thing, but, if that is the excuse, then the scholarship should mirror academic scholarships. Can't be pulled once offered; has clearly outlined criteria that have to be met to sustain the scholarship, etc. etc.

I don't know enough about the specific situations discussed in this thread to say much, but, if asked do student athletes get screwed over at WYO, my guess is that odds are, yes. It doesn't make it right and I disagree with it. However, hate the game not the player. In other words, college football needs changes at the NCAA level.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

On multiple occasions...

I forgot who that was

 

[HR_Poke]

I worked with a guy who played for Rick Neuheisal at Washington. He was a backup OL and he essentially made his left knee go 90 degrees the wrong way. He had to get a full knee replacement and basically as soon as they carted him off the field they pulled his scholly, booted him out of the football dorms and banned him from any team functions. They were afraid that the other players would see his injury and start hesitating when they played out of fear of injury. It's a really really shyty thing to do to a college kid, but I don't think it's rare unfortunately.

 

[PokeOLoco]

I'm speaking more globally here and in no way justifying it, but college athletics has a seedy underbelly, so to speak. Pulling scholarships, pulling offers, encouraging kids to play hurt, etc. etc. There are also lots of good things and good stories.

The negative plights of student athletes where our academic institutions acted, well, non-academic, would make an interesting story. One that should be told, IMO.

I've long contended that student athletes get screwed. I get the free education thing, but, if that is the excuse, then the scholarship should mirror academic scholarships. Can't be pulled once offered; has clearly outlined criteria that have to be met to sustain the scholarship, etc. etc.

I don't know enough about the specific situations discussed in this thread to say much, but, if asked do student athletes get screwed over at WYO, my guess is that odds are, yes. It doesn't make it right and I disagree with it. However, hate the game not the player. In other words, college football needs changes at the NCAA level.

This^ the stakes are very high, and no doubt Bohl is feeling the heat a bit. I think it would have been perfectly fair if Will was given a scholarship, but I think his attitude after the fact may be telling. Uso went out with class, and he's a good dude like I'm sure Tutein is. Uso didn't have the impact on the field we hoped, but I highly doubt his departure is football related. As to Hokey, I feel his pain, many of us have had a similar experience in life but it is how you respond that reveals your character, and it's okay that you feel slighted and have pride and love for the program. Things don't have to be either/or[/u], drives me crazy about the world these days. And yeah there's something to be said about this generation but I'm a millennial as well, and I think if many older people had the platform when they were the same age they would've said stupid shit too. Many older people say plenty of stupid shit with the platform as it is.