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Air Force Gone to AAC

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OrediggerPoke

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Sources: Air Force emerges as serious AAC target

Air Force has emerged as a serious target to be added to the American Athletic Conference, sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel on Monday, after the program emerged as a potential AAC add prior to the Pac-12 taking four Mountain West schools last week.
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OrediggerPoke said:
www.espn.com

Sources: Air Force emerges as serious AAC target

Air Force has emerged as a serious target to be added to the American Athletic Conference, sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel on Monday, after the program emerged as a potential AAC add prior to the Pac-12 taking four Mountain West schools last week.
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Leading topic on ESPN. ESPN is the AAC’s media partner. They don’t publish this without a sound basis.
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Maybe they'll take us with them? Probably UNM but I hope Burman is trying.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
Maybe they'll take us with them? Probably UNM but I hope Burman is trying.
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We are much better off taking the exit money than putting our non-revenue sports in a far flung conference. I’m guessing this is football only for Air Force and they will park other sports in Summit or something.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
We are much better off taking the exit money than putting our non-revenue sports in a far flung conference. I’m guessing this is football only for Air Force and they will park other sports in Summit or something.
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AAC will be a better conference than whatever crap this mess turns into. You could do a western division with CO , TX, OK and hopefully WYO.

MWC is in trouble despite the money. 127 mill won't get down the road vert long. Nice immediate shot in the arm though.
 
The AAC is reaching out to AFA, not vice versa. That may be an important detail. Why leave the MWC, old rivals, and $110+ million when the MWC may be able to get some AAC teams...
 
Was able to watch PBJs presser for North Texas and this is what stuck out most for me...
When your AD tells you that you could go 3-0 by 100 points a game and still plan on being one of the "left-behinds". THIS is the reason that Tom Burman needs to go! He has no vision for the future of Wyoming Athletics and has ALWAYS been satisfied with the status quo. His history of managing that department is clear...Average is good enough...
Wyoming is going nowhere with the current leadership....
 
I think it's a matter of time until unlv is gone. If af is also gone, the mwc is dead unless a bunch of fcs schools want to jump. Even then, the mwc leftovers + whatever is cobbled together will be among the worst fbs conferences. Pac and aac will obviously be better. Sunbelt likely. cusa? Possibly. We could probably convince utep and nmsu if unm stays. Outside of that? I think the only options are fcs.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
I think it's a matter of time until unlv is gone. If af is also gone, the mwc is dead unless a bunch of fcs schools want to jump. Even then, the mwc leftovers + whatever is cobbled together will be among the worst fbs conferences. Pac and aac will obviously be better. Sunbelt likely. cusa? Possibly. We could probably convince utep and nmsu if unm stays. Outside of that? I think the only options are fcs.
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It’s no doubt that UTEP and NMSU and whatever FCS willing to move up are the targets. There’s no one else from FBS m (not in CUSA) joining this and there’s 0% chance the conference dissolves because of the pending exit fees.

It will be something like this:
Wyoming
Utah State
New Mexico
New Mexico State
UTEP
San Jose State
Sacramento State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Hawaii (football only)

I actually think UNLV is able to bring Nevada with it to the PAC. But they may or may not be in this regional glorified FCS conference. Another possibility is Sam Houston State but that’s quite a bit out of this footprint and hope we steer clear.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
It’s no doubt that UTEP and NMSU and whatever FCS willing to move up are the targets. There’s no one else from FBS m (not in CUSA) joining this and there’s 0% chance the conference dissolves because of the pending exit fees.

It will be something like this:
Wyoming
Utah State
New Mexico
New Mexico State
UTEP
San Jose State
Sacramento State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Hawaii (football only)

I actually think UNLV is able to bring Nevada with it to the PAC. But they may or may not be in this regional glorified FCS conference. Another possibility is Sam Houston State but that’s quite a bit out of this footprint and hope we steer clear.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that unm will be in play for the aac but even if not. It would take quite a bit of cash to bring fcs teams up. Just spitballing a number but let's sayb the remaining teams split 70 mill. That doesn't go very far.

Do we move mwc hq? Without TV money can we even afford conference infrastructure?

Maybe the better option is hold tight. Get an exemption 1 year and then divvy up the buyout money. We're in nmsu and idaho territory. There's always a chance that the fcs schools won't or can't jump too. Tons of variables so who knows?
 
OrediggerPoke said:
It’s no doubt that UTEP and NMSU and whatever FCS willing to move up are the targets. There’s no one else from FBS m (not in CUSA) joining this and there’s 0% chance the conference dissolves because of the pending exit fees.

It will be something like this:
Wyoming
Utah State
New Mexico
New Mexico State
UTEP
San Jose State
Sacramento State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Hawaii (football only)

I actually think UNLV is able to bring Nevada with it to the PAC. But they may or may not be in this regional glorified FCS conference. Another possibility is Sam Houston State but that’s quite a bit out of this footprint and hope we steer clear.
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To me, this looks like a very likely scenario. And its one that should get Gloria Nevarez fired immediately. When the most notable thing on your resume is promoting Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (vs. building a conference) its really time to go. And I am sick of Burman placating CSU. If CSU wants to backstab Wyoming, then why should Wyoming agree to play them in the future? His summary of his discussion with the CSU A.D. made me realize how weak UW is. Let CSU be the one that destroyed the Bronze Boot tradition.
 
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IMO, a lot hinges on unlv (they're likely gone), AF (who knows but I'll bet if aac, we lose another), and to a lesser extent unm (no idea but could see a scenario where they're packaged with AF for the aac or are they a potential pac target?)

Nobody is going to want to join the mwc dumpster fire without some big buyout contracts from those 3 and I doubt they want to do that. They're the next 3 out.

Every other remaining mwc team is irrelevant and are unlikely to hold a conference together unless enough fcs teams decide they can and want to make the jump.

We assume utep and nmsu will join but I'm not so sure especially if unm leaves. Hell, the aac may decide to have 9 in the west and 9 in the east. There won't be much revenue anyway so stability and regionalism may be more important?
West would be:
North TX
Rice
Tulsa
Utsa
Af
Unm
Utep
Nmsu
Tulane

I'm not saying what will happen but there are lots of possibilities. The mwc next 3 out are critical to any chance at survival unless we can use all the buyout and convince the Dakotas, the Montanas, and like oredigger pointed out sac state or something. Hell, maybe idaho?
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
IMO, a lot hinges on unlv (they're likely gone), AF (who knows but I'll bet if aac, we lose another), and to a lesser extent unm (no idea but could see a scenario where they're packaged with AF for the aac or are they a potential pac target?)

Nobody is going to want to join the mwc dumpster fire without some big buyout contracts from those 3 and I doubt they want to do that. They're the next 3 out.

Every other remaining mwc team is irrelevant and are unlikely to hold a conference together unless enough fcs teams decide they can and want to make the jump.

We assume utep and nmsu will join but I'm not so sure especially if unm leaves. Hell, the aac may decide to have 9 in the west and 9 in the east. There won't be much revenue anyway so stability and regionalism may be more important?
West would be:
North TX
Rice
Tulsa
Utsa
Af
Unm
Utep
Nmsu
Tulane

I'm not saying what will happen but there are lots of possibilities. The mwc next 3 out are critical to any chance at survival unless we can use all the buyout and convince the Dakotas, the Montanas, and like oredigger pointed out sac state or something. Hell, maybe idaho?
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That would not be a fun conference to be in. I have no interest in watching games with any of those teams.
 
Midwest Cowboy said:
To me, this looks like a very likely scenario. And its one that should get Gloria Nevarez fired immediately. When the most notable thing on your resume is promoting Diversity, Education and Inclusion (vs. building a conference) its really time to go. And I am sick of Burman placating CSU. If CSU wants to backstab Wyoming, then why should Wyoming agree to play them in the future? His summary of his discussion with the CSU A.D. made me realize how weak UW is. Let CSU be the one that destroyed the Bronze Boot tradition.
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I agree. CSewe is now in BYU level dislike from my perspective. I could care less to play them again once they are gone.
 
Itsux2beaewe said:
I agree. CSewe is now in BYU level dislike from my perspective. I could care less to play them again once they are gone.
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The reality is that we will need CSU on the schedule far more now than they will need us. With what is appearing to be an awfully uninspiring list of conference games for Wyoming, the Border War may be one of the few selling points remaining to get anyone in the stands.

The old saying goes ‘don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.’

This is an ugly ugly future for Wyoming athletics.
 
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