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I'm gonna make the trek down Friday night and take in this game at Clune, never been to a bball game there, early tip off 12noon, but hopefully we come out like this past CSU game and lead it wire to wire....as it's always said the next game is the next biggest and biggest. Can't wait to see us shoot down the Falcons
BeaverPoke
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Road game. Huge rematch with SDSU around the corner. Coming off a Border War near-blowout win. Trap game.
AFA just played and beat NM who is similar to us. They wont be surprised and will be prepared. This aint gonna be easy.
AFA just played and beat NM who is similar to us. They wont be surprised and will be prepared. This aint gonna be easy.
joshvanklomp
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Coming into last night's game, Colorado State was shooting 37.6% on 3-pointers. Air Force is currently shooting 37.2% on 3-pointers, so how can you be so sure that they'll do so much better?Adv8RU12 said:
Also, just because they were open doesn't mean they were good shots. A number of them were forced, because of how good the defense was playing.
BeaverPoke
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joshvanklomp said:
Totally agree. Put me in an NBA game and I guarantee you I can get open 3 point looks. They might be from the other end of the court but they would be open.
BeaverPoke
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But I think he means that AFA is much more disciplined than CSU. CSU seems to run that rec league offense. Just running up and down and shooting the ball.
But AFA (at least they USED to be) is disciplined in their offense. Kind of like Wyoming I think.
But, regardless, they don't shoot the ball any better (or worse really) than CSU.
But here is the beauty of it all people. They scout each team individually. We weren't afraid of CSU's 3 pointers. We wanted to control Avila.
Does AFA have an Avila? Do they have anyone that can score on Nance down low?
If they can't, then we are going to guard the perimeter very well.
Just because we might have given something up against one team doesn't mean the next team can pick on it.
It's not like football where if you know they can't stop the run you just run it.
But AFA (at least they USED to be) is disciplined in their offense. Kind of like Wyoming I think.
But, regardless, they don't shoot the ball any better (or worse really) than CSU.
But here is the beauty of it all people. They scout each team individually. We weren't afraid of CSU's 3 pointers. We wanted to control Avila.
Does AFA have an Avila? Do they have anyone that can score on Nance down low?
If they can't, then we are going to guard the perimeter very well.
Just because we might have given something up against one team doesn't mean the next team can pick on it.
It's not like football where if you know they can't stop the run you just run it.
BeaverPoke
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Just looked at AFA's ESPN page.
Ranked low in points, and rebounds, but ranked high in assists and field goal %.
Seem familiar?
In their 11 MWC games they have won the rebounding battle 6 times. Lost it 5 times.
I hate that PPG is a barometer of good offense, when in reality it can be a reflection of poor defense just as much as good offense. To me, good offense is making your shots, and passing the ball.
Assists and FG %. And AFA is Top 30 in both of those. Mediocre rebounding team. Solid defense.
This team is a mirror of us.
We are at the top of the standings, and they are at the bottom, but man they play the game the same way.
We better not be looking ahead or we will lose. This is not going to be an easy game.
Ranked low in points, and rebounds, but ranked high in assists and field goal %.
Seem familiar?
In their 11 MWC games they have won the rebounding battle 6 times. Lost it 5 times.
I hate that PPG is a barometer of good offense, when in reality it can be a reflection of poor defense just as much as good offense. To me, good offense is making your shots, and passing the ball.
Assists and FG %. And AFA is Top 30 in both of those. Mediocre rebounding team. Solid defense.
This team is a mirror of us.
We are at the top of the standings, and they are at the bottom, but man they play the game the same way.
We better not be looking ahead or we will lose. This is not going to be an easy game.
Hi all....here's to a good game with no injuries and, speaking of injuries, that has been a major concern for us the whole year.
We have been hammered this season with injuries losing 93 man-games this year to date. We are actually the healthiest we have been in a while but had 2 pre-season ending injuires and then lost our #2 scorer/#1 rebounder vs SDSU 1st game for the season due to blowing out his Achilles...ouch
The 'sicklist' so far during MWC play 2014-15:
1 player senior captain Kam Williams out for season with torn Achilles in SDSU game...Number 2 scorer/leading rebounder
1 player Max Yon (scoring leader) out beginning with playing at The Pit with thigh injury/other and has not played to date
2 players preseason projected to be first 1/2 off the bench...surgery before the season and lost for the year (Michaels/Tuss)
1 deep bench player surgery only practiced 2 weeks (Jorgenson)
5 concussions with lost games to include starter Justin Hammonds out for two games, seniors DeLovell Earls (plus mid summer surgery so didn't practice until after 1st game then got the concussion sat out 2 weeks) and Justin Hammonds. Zach Moer. Fr. CJ Siples.
1 player Fr. Mooney ejected in CSU and out for NM game
1 player Fr. Mooney missed one game for ankle
1 player Lake Lute missed one road trip due to flu
1 player (starter) has not missed games but been in and out of a boot for entire season with bone spur which limits practice (unnamed intentionally)
1 player ) missed a game due to the flu...maybe Hayden Graham?
Senior Yon (leading scorer 15.6 missed the last 6 games due to leg injury/other and returned yesterday for 1st time with 18 mins/5pts off the bench, rusty but brought defense with him on to the court. In 7 of the 8 games we have lost in MWC play we have been within 5 points of taking the lead (and within 2pts with 2:30 to go twice) but couldn't finish....and we have been doing that with 1-2-3 freshmen on the court at the same time for large portions of the game.
Should be an interesting matchup and can't wait. Safe drive down to the springs and Go Falcons.
(Here's some stats and my take on the AF vs NM game...I'll have my AF vs Wyo preview up tomorrow or Sat early. http://ricksfalconreview.blogspot.com/
We have been hammered this season with injuries losing 93 man-games this year to date. We are actually the healthiest we have been in a while but had 2 pre-season ending injuires and then lost our #2 scorer/#1 rebounder vs SDSU 1st game for the season due to blowing out his Achilles...ouch
The 'sicklist' so far during MWC play 2014-15:
1 player senior captain Kam Williams out for season with torn Achilles in SDSU game...Number 2 scorer/leading rebounder
1 player Max Yon (scoring leader) out beginning with playing at The Pit with thigh injury/other and has not played to date
2 players preseason projected to be first 1/2 off the bench...surgery before the season and lost for the year (Michaels/Tuss)
1 deep bench player surgery only practiced 2 weeks (Jorgenson)
5 concussions with lost games to include starter Justin Hammonds out for two games, seniors DeLovell Earls (plus mid summer surgery so didn't practice until after 1st game then got the concussion sat out 2 weeks) and Justin Hammonds. Zach Moer. Fr. CJ Siples.
1 player Fr. Mooney ejected in CSU and out for NM game
1 player Fr. Mooney missed one game for ankle
1 player Lake Lute missed one road trip due to flu
1 player (starter) has not missed games but been in and out of a boot for entire season with bone spur which limits practice (unnamed intentionally)
1 player ) missed a game due to the flu...maybe Hayden Graham?
Senior Yon (leading scorer 15.6 missed the last 6 games due to leg injury/other and returned yesterday for 1st time with 18 mins/5pts off the bench, rusty but brought defense with him on to the court. In 7 of the 8 games we have lost in MWC play we have been within 5 points of taking the lead (and within 2pts with 2:30 to go twice) but couldn't finish....and we have been doing that with 1-2-3 freshmen on the court at the same time for large portions of the game.
Should be an interesting matchup and can't wait. Safe drive down to the springs and Go Falcons.
(Here's some stats and my take on the AF vs NM game...I'll have my AF vs Wyo preview up tomorrow or Sat early. http://ricksfalconreview.blogspot.com/
BeaverPoke
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AFA is going to be a team to contend with in a few years. Just like Utah State is as well.
AFA can play with the better teams in the MWC, they are just having trouble closing them out for wins.
The held NM scoreless for the final 6 or so minutes of that game. We can not afford to let AFA hang around. We can not afford a scoreless stretch like we have had so many of.
We need to put them away when given the opportunity.
AFA can play with the better teams in the MWC, they are just having trouble closing them out for wins.
The held NM scoreless for the final 6 or so minutes of that game. We can not afford to let AFA hang around. We can not afford a scoreless stretch like we have had so many of.
We need to put them away when given the opportunity.
kansasCowboy
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Read somewhere that they got Yon back. This is playing out like SJSU. Who will we actually be playing? What do you scout? How do you prepare for them?
It's time Air Force (10-12/3-8) vs MWC leading Wyoming (19-4/8-2) in their only matchup in conference play for 2015
(Full Blog at http://www.ricksfalcon...onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) Note all the links and stats won't come over here so more can be seen at the full blog...Rick '77
I described Air Force's win over New Mexico as a 'workmanlike' game for the Falcons. If that was an apt description then the match-up between the Falcons and the Cowboys will be an old fashioned Western saga focused on rugged individuals circling the wagons on both ends of the court. While Air Force beat New Mexico not with offense but with a stepped up defense, the focus on 'defense' has been the key for Wyoming's success this season and their 19-4 overall record. Who can defend the best in this game will indeed be the winner, no matter how good the offenses are.
the two teams match up evenly on paper in most areas but it is the individual matchups within their offense and defense that stand out in stark contrast to one another.
Team PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TPG FG% FT% 3P%
AF 22 -- 66 31 16 6 3 12 47.5 68.0 37.2
Wyo 23 -- 63 31 15 6 3 12 48.0 72.0 33.0
The number that you don't see above that stands out for Wyoming and their defensive effort is points allowed where Wyoming is holding their opponents to only 54ppg while AF is giving up 64ppg. Wow, a 10 point difference seems like a high mountain to climb, and that is reality as both teams are averaging 60 possessions per game. This indicates how well Wyoming has done on the defensive end of the court and something the Falcons must figure out how to overcome.
In playing and winning, Wyoming's #1/3/4/5/7 scorers are all seniors with #2 a junior. They are an experienced team that have played together and understand where they are going on offense and defense. They are led by a name we know and respect in big man Larry Nance Jr. (who thankfully has had a great recovery off knee surgery in the off-season) 6'8"/235#/16ppg/7.2rpg (note the bigman can shoot the three just doesn't do it often). Adams and Grabau lead from the top with 11/9ppg (along with Hankerson 7ppg) and shoot well while distributing the ball. Neither are afraid to drive the lane. These three have contributed for taking 248 3's of the 390 shot by Wyoming. Forward Cook (8ppg) is tough in the lane and both Nance and Cook had double-doubles in the win over CSU on Wednesday (19pt-10reb/12pt-11reb). That will be the challenge for the Falcons. Their strength in rebounding is from players outside the line 'flying' to the ball/glass looking to rebound...must block out. (Full player stats scroll to the bottom). You can watch the Wyoming vs CSU Here.
Air Force knows and understands what Wyoming is going to do on both ends of the court, and while they are doing it with seniors and juniors, the Falcons will always have at least one freshman/sophomore or more in the lineup. But the depth AF now has will reap benefits in this game and can, if used correctly, negate the experience factor of Wyoming. While the matchup on defense will be extremely tough for AF, the tempo of the game is more in their favor vs the Cowboys than many others in the conference who are more of the push the ball teams and offenses. As we play very deliberate as do the Cowboys, it will be a matchup of wills and the ability to deny the lane and penetration.
On offense the Falcons will expect to see Wyoming switch between man and zone throughout the game. I have not seen many of their games but they generally do not press rather relying on getting back on defense. The Falcons must run their offense with one goal at the top of the list and that is to take care of the ball. With limited possessions in this game due to both deliberate offenses, taking care of the ball limiting turnovers (or creating them on defense) is a must. Let the ball do the work and make their defends move their feet. They have length and quickness so need to be smart and 'snappy' in the movement.
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The big men for Wyoming are their keys to success in many ways and the Falcons must be wary of them but attack on offense. Using the offense to cut and move inside and attacking the glass will force their bigs to move more, possibly get frustrated and then the foul potential goes up. Be aware of the shot blocking ability they have but do not be afraid of it. Attack the look for the inside out pass for a good look from the arc.
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Must find success early in 'our' house from the arc. Not to win by the three, but to make them extend their defense. Very similar to what they will try to do.
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Air Force's defense must find ways to double-down inside when the bigs get the ball but use the same quick feet they did in the second half vs NM to find their outside shooters. Finding a way to limit (I did not say stop) Nance will go a long way to finding success for the Air Force defense. Note that the Cowboys have been up and down at times with taking care of the ball themselves with 12 tpg (same as AF). They actually had 3 more (12-9) TOs in their win versus a cold shooting CSU team. Take advantage when we get an extra possession and find ways to score.
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Free throws will never be more important than in this game. The numbers look close overall in the stats but in conference play AF is at 65% FT while Wyoming is 75%. This is a battle that must be won to win at the buzzer.
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The unknown factor in this game will be the crowd and the atmosphere at Clune Arena. Word on the street is that Wyoming fans are trying to mass support and hoping to bring 1000+ fans to USAFA. It is incumbent for AF to have fan and Cadet Wing/Section 8 support Saturday. I'll be there, make sure you are too!
GO FALCONS....BEAT WYOMING
(Full Blog at http://www.ricksfalcon...onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) Note all the links and stats won't come over here so more can be seen at the full blog...Rick '77
I described Air Force's win over New Mexico as a 'workmanlike' game for the Falcons. If that was an apt description then the match-up between the Falcons and the Cowboys will be an old fashioned Western saga focused on rugged individuals circling the wagons on both ends of the court. While Air Force beat New Mexico not with offense but with a stepped up defense, the focus on 'defense' has been the key for Wyoming's success this season and their 19-4 overall record. Who can defend the best in this game will indeed be the winner, no matter how good the offenses are.
the two teams match up evenly on paper in most areas but it is the individual matchups within their offense and defense that stand out in stark contrast to one another.
Team PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TPG FG% FT% 3P%
AF 22 -- 66 31 16 6 3 12 47.5 68.0 37.2
Wyo 23 -- 63 31 15 6 3 12 48.0 72.0 33.0
The number that you don't see above that stands out for Wyoming and their defensive effort is points allowed where Wyoming is holding their opponents to only 54ppg while AF is giving up 64ppg. Wow, a 10 point difference seems like a high mountain to climb, and that is reality as both teams are averaging 60 possessions per game. This indicates how well Wyoming has done on the defensive end of the court and something the Falcons must figure out how to overcome.
In playing and winning, Wyoming's #1/3/4/5/7 scorers are all seniors with #2 a junior. They are an experienced team that have played together and understand where they are going on offense and defense. They are led by a name we know and respect in big man Larry Nance Jr. (who thankfully has had a great recovery off knee surgery in the off-season) 6'8"/235#/16ppg/7.2rpg (note the bigman can shoot the three just doesn't do it often). Adams and Grabau lead from the top with 11/9ppg (along with Hankerson 7ppg) and shoot well while distributing the ball. Neither are afraid to drive the lane. These three have contributed for taking 248 3's of the 390 shot by Wyoming. Forward Cook (8ppg) is tough in the lane and both Nance and Cook had double-doubles in the win over CSU on Wednesday (19pt-10reb/12pt-11reb). That will be the challenge for the Falcons. Their strength in rebounding is from players outside the line 'flying' to the ball/glass looking to rebound...must block out. (Full player stats scroll to the bottom). You can watch the Wyoming vs CSU Here.
Air Force knows and understands what Wyoming is going to do on both ends of the court, and while they are doing it with seniors and juniors, the Falcons will always have at least one freshman/sophomore or more in the lineup. But the depth AF now has will reap benefits in this game and can, if used correctly, negate the experience factor of Wyoming. While the matchup on defense will be extremely tough for AF, the tempo of the game is more in their favor vs the Cowboys than many others in the conference who are more of the push the ball teams and offenses. As we play very deliberate as do the Cowboys, it will be a matchup of wills and the ability to deny the lane and penetration.
On offense the Falcons will expect to see Wyoming switch between man and zone throughout the game. I have not seen many of their games but they generally do not press rather relying on getting back on defense. The Falcons must run their offense with one goal at the top of the list and that is to take care of the ball. With limited possessions in this game due to both deliberate offenses, taking care of the ball limiting turnovers (or creating them on defense) is a must. Let the ball do the work and make their defends move their feet. They have length and quickness so need to be smart and 'snappy' in the movement.
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The big men for Wyoming are their keys to success in many ways and the Falcons must be wary of them but attack on offense. Using the offense to cut and move inside and attacking the glass will force their bigs to move more, possibly get frustrated and then the foul potential goes up. Be aware of the shot blocking ability they have but do not be afraid of it. Attack the look for the inside out pass for a good look from the arc.
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Must find success early in 'our' house from the arc. Not to win by the three, but to make them extend their defense. Very similar to what they will try to do.
---------------------------
Air Force's defense must find ways to double-down inside when the bigs get the ball but use the same quick feet they did in the second half vs NM to find their outside shooters. Finding a way to limit (I did not say stop) Nance will go a long way to finding success for the Air Force defense. Note that the Cowboys have been up and down at times with taking care of the ball themselves with 12 tpg (same as AF). They actually had 3 more (12-9) TOs in their win versus a cold shooting CSU team. Take advantage when we get an extra possession and find ways to score.
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Free throws will never be more important than in this game. The numbers look close overall in the stats but in conference play AF is at 65% FT while Wyoming is 75%. This is a battle that must be won to win at the buzzer.
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The unknown factor in this game will be the crowd and the atmosphere at Clune Arena. Word on the street is that Wyoming fans are trying to mass support and hoping to bring 1000+ fans to USAFA. It is incumbent for AF to have fan and Cadet Wing/Section 8 support Saturday. I'll be there, make sure you are too!
GO FALCONS....BEAT WYOMING
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