Aggies take the lead on YBU!

[fromolwyoming]

I'm glad the Aggies destroyed the borg's season, but I wish Hill all the best in his recovery

[tweet]https://twitter.com/drewjay/status/519168293635362816[/tweet]

Yikes. Terrible to hear. That just might be career ending. Wouldn't wish this on anyone, no matter the name on the front of the jersey. Hoping he recovers.

I agree. Its a shame when injuries of this magnitude happen. These poor kids that endure these injuries I'm sure it just crushes them. Not a one of them deserves it.

Jerseys littered throughout the stadium across the country...coincidentally with the star player's number, with no money going to the kid. All to the pockets of the NCAA. Young guys out there getting concussions, breaking their legs and ruining their bodies. Pretty sad deal.

Yeah, how dare they get a free education, room and board, and play the game they love!

 

[ragtimejoe1]

At the risk of going way off topic here, does the NCAA itself make money off of football? I know they are approaching 1 billion in revenue, but most of that is because they run the basketball post-season.

For some reason, I thought football money primarily went to conferences and schools with very little going to the NCAA itself?

 

[djm19]

I'm glad the Aggies destroyed the borg's season, but I wish Hill all the best in his recovery

[tweet]https://twitter.com/drewjay/status/519168293635362816[/tweet]

Yikes. Terrible to hear. That just might be career ending. Wouldn't wish this on anyone, no matter the name on the front of the jersey. Hoping he recovers.

I agree. Its a shame when injuries of this magnitude happen. These poor kids that endure these injuries I'm sure it just crushes them. Not a one of them deserves it.

Jerseys littered throughout the stadium across the country...coincidentally with the star player's number, with no money going to the kid. All to the pockets of the NCAA. Young guys out there getting concussions, breaking their legs and ruining their bodies. Pretty sad deal.

Yeah, how dare they get a free education, room and board, and play the game they love!

I am not arguing that. But the NCAA making money off player's likeness and image is racketeering and crap. A player can't even have someone buy him lunch without it being some frickin violation.

The education, room and board and such is nice, but if you played last year and your number was...umm...I don't know #16. And say, just by chance, you saw thousands of #16 jerseys everywhere. I would DEFINITELY think to myself "hey this is totally worth it. Getting a free place to sleep and some free food while the NCAA is making tens of thousands of dollars...from me. But, you know...I love the game. This is awesome. Maybe I can jeopardize my entire life with concussions and broken legs for what? Pride? To say "I WAS good." And "I was the BIG MAN on campus!"

No, it is bullshi. The NCAA is crooked. I don't find it a fair trade at all for the amount the NCAA makes on players breaking their legs, getting screws in their bones and living with effects of giving it all to the game they love to play.

 

[djm19]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/179272/ncaa-makes-billions-and-student-athletes-get-none-it

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

The entitlement mindset of this country is alarming.

 

[cowboyz]

I'm glad the Aggies destroyed the borg's season, but I wish Hill all the best in his recovery

[tweet]https://twitter.com/drewjay/status/519168293635362816[/tweet]

Yikes. Terrible to hear. That just might be career ending. Wouldn't wish this on anyone, no matter the name on the front of the jersey. Hoping he recovers.

I agree. Its a shame when injuries of this magnitude happen. These poor kids that endure these injuries I'm sure it just crushes them. Not a one of them deserves it.

Jerseys littered throughout the stadium across the country...coincidentally with the star player's number, with no money going to the kid. All to the pockets of the NCAA. Young guys out there getting concussions, breaking their legs and ruining their bodies. Pretty sad deal.

Yeah, how dare they get a free education, room and board, and play the game they love!

I assume from this statement that you are paying or have paid for your education. If someone said to you "let me violently smash your leg so bad that it needs a metal plate and 8 screws, and I'll cover your education bills", would you say yes? A lot of football players do not only show up for the love of the game, for some it's the only way to get an education. So even if they'd rather not have their leg smashed or their brains scrambled, this is what they have to lay on the line. And for the the 20% or so of the team that get zero assistance, they are playing for the love of the game. Sure being on the football team gets you laid more than not being on the team, but other than that, not a lot of benefit if you're doing it for free. Do they deserve to have permanent injuries, or is it only the scholar-shipped players? Or is it fair that giant organizations can benefit from these non-scholar-shipped athletes, or should they only benefit from the scholar-shipped athletes?

I realize I am being a bit dramatic, but when people feel that all these players get their "free" education or have things so easy, that they have no reason to bitch, they don't see the entire picture. Scholar-shipped or not, these players put in tons of hours with football related activities, and no, don't bother saying NCAA mandates only 20 hours. I've known loads of players at Wyoming and 20 hours would have been an off week. They are also held to a certain standard for this free education. 2.0 average or you can't play, if you can't play, they don't keep you around. They aren't allowed to work, so if their family economic situation is not so good, they miss out on many of the things other students have.

So yes, if all goes well, no injuries, etc, they can walk away with a degree and an in tact body. But any number of variations and it doesn't work out so well (bad injury, can't keep the grades up because you're spending too much time being a better player, get a comp tattoo or drink in a bar because you can't afford one and you're gone, etc.).

It's a trade off, but one that I believe is not in favor of the average football player.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

I assume from this statement that you are paying or have paid for your education. If someone said to you "let me violently smash your leg so bad that it needs a metal plate and 8 screws, and I'll cover your education bills", would you say yes? A lot of football players do not only show up for the love of the game, for some it's the only way to get an education. So even if they'd rather not have their leg smashed or their brains scrambled, this is what they have to lay on the line. And for the the 20% or so of the team that get zero assistance, they are playing for the love of the game. Sure being on the football team gets you laid more than not being on the team, but other than that, not a lot of benefit if you're doing it for free. Do they deserve to have permanent injuries, or is it only the scholar-shipped players? Or is it fair that giant organizations can benefit from these non-scholar-shipped athletes, or should they only benefit from the scholar-shipped athletes?

I realize I am being a bit dramatic, but when people feel that all these players get their "free" education or have things so easy, that they have no reason to bitch, they don't see the entire picture. Scholar-shipped or not, these players put in tons of hours with football related activities, and no, don't bother saying NCAA mandates only 20 hours. I've known loads of players at Wyoming and 20 hours would have been an off week. They are also held to a certain standard for this free education. 2.0 average or you can't play, if you can't play, they don't keep you around. They aren't allowed to work, so if their family economic situation is not so good, they miss out on many of the things other students have.

So yes, if all goes well, no injuries, etc, they can walk away with a degree and an in tact body. But any number of variations and it doesn't work out so well (bad injury, can't keep the grades up because you're spending too much time being a better player, get a comp tattoo or drink in a bar because you can't afford one and you're gone, etc.).

It's a trade off, but one that I believe is not in favor of the average football player.

Is it risk of injury or money made that entitles them a cut? What about students on internships, special problems class, graduate students, etc. that might work even more hours and contribute to a project that gets a patent and generates millions. If they are just lab labor, they get squat other than a free education, a college credit, or experience. Not saying you are wrong, necessarily, but where are the lines drawn?

 

[djm19]

This is getting way too in the weeds. I am simply saying, as a former post high school athlete with terrible back problems from football, that seeing players break their legs and stuff is terrible terrible terrible. Anyone who is physically breaking their bodies for our entertainment should get more than a free meal and rent. That is my opinion. Nothing to do with entitlement; everything to do with what is logical.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

This is getting way too in the weeds. I am simply saying, as a former post high school athlete with terrible back problems from football, that seeing players break their legs and stuff is terrible terrible terrible. Anyone who is physically breaking their bodies for our entertainment should get more than a free meal and rent. That is my opinion. Nothing to do with entitlement; everything to do with what is logical.

Free meal and free rent is what the Roman Gladiators got (and they didn't get killed nearly as often as in the movies).

The degrees do have some value as well, though. On the other hand, I had a full ride at UW with far less effort and risk than that of the average football player, that's for sure.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

I am simply saying, as a former post high school athlete with terrible back problems from football, that seeing players break their legs and stuff is terrible terrible terrible.

It does make me wonder if football survives in the high school ranks. How can our tax dollars go to supporting such a violent game with high rates of long-term physical injury, and potentially life threatening activity for nothing more than entertainment.

Not saying that is my view, but it is a compelling argument.