After listening to several interviews(Duval, Bohl, Wick)

[Wyokie]

I can't help but remember how excited Hawaii fans were when Norm Chow was hired. Everything was better....even the media bought into it. It was "Chow Time!". He dominated the PR and honeymoon phase. Needless to say, things haven't panned out well.

Don't get me wrong...I am NOT saying Bohl is Chow by any means. Only that winning the PR battle during the honeymoon phase quite frankly doesn't mean shit. Bohl could be the next Paul Roach...I don't know. But based purely on the current roster and the 2014 schedule, I would be shocked to see better than 6-6. 6-6 in itself would be an awesome first season. I frankly think it will be closer to 3-9 or 4-8. I wouldn't condemn for Bohl having that type of first season in the least.

+1

BTW, still laughing at UH under Chow but at the same time glad we had Smith & Herron vs. Hawaii 'cos without them, we lose to the Rainbows.

 

[PokeOLoco]

Looking at the schedule I see 3 maybe 4 wins for sure, possibly only another two at the very best. This is not where we were expecting to be when we put this schedule together. This is wrong schedule, wrong year I'm afraid.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Looking at the schedule I see 3 maybe 4 wins for sure, possibly only another two at the very best. This not were we were expecting to be when we put this schedule together. This is wrong schedule, wrong year I'm afraid.

Let's maybe watch the Montana game before we start writin off this season....at the very least we have players on par with NDSU and they beat top 10 FBS teams. Let's actually give this group a chance. I see no reason why we won't be in every game and will not be shocked when we steal some that we shouldn't

 

[J-Rod]

Let's maybe watch the Montana game before we start writin off this season....at the very least we have players on par with NDSU and they beat top 10 FBS teams. Let's actually give this group a chance. I see no reason why we won't be in every game and will not be shocked when we steal some that we shouldn't

LOL Top 10 FBS teams? Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado State, and Minnesota are nowhere near the Top 10. He beat the FBS schools you would expect to lose to an FCS school.

Although I agree, we won't truly know what to expect until the Montana game. But I wouldn't be shocked if that's the game in which the honeymoon comes to abrupt end.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Let's maybe watch the Montana game before we start writin off this season....at the very least we have players on par with NDSU and they beat top 10 FBS teams. Let's actually give this group a chance. I see no reason why we won't be in every game and will not be shocked when we steal some that we shouldn't

LOL Top 10 FBS teams? Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado State, and Minnesota are nowhere near the Top 10. He beat the FBS schools you would expect to lose to an FCS school.

Although I agree, we won't truly know what to expect until the Montana game. But I wouldn't be shocked if that's the game in which the honeymoon comes to abrupt end.

I'd be shocked if we lost to Montana. I think it's more likely we steal the Oregon game than lose to montana

 

[kansasCowboy]

I'm not guaranteeing any game a win this season, even Montana. I like Bohl and I like the player enthusiasm, but I've seen player enthusiasm under Koenning... I think we will turn a corner under Bohl, but it will be a few years.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

I'd be shocked if we lost to Montana. I think it's more likely we steal the Oregon game than lose to montana

Really?

In my opinion, Montana is waaaaaaaay closer to our level than Oregon.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I'd be shocked if we lost to Montana. I think it's more likely we steal the Oregon game than lose to montana

Really?

In my opinion, Montana is waaaaaaaay closer to our level than Oregon.

Yeah really. I think CDC really knew how to recruit good players just didn't know how to coach them. I think we'll see a lot of prior under achieving players make the mark we all thought they would

 

[Cowboy Junky]

I'd be shocked if we lost to Montana. I think it's more likely we steal the Oregon game than lose to montana

Really?

In my opinion, Montana is waaaaaaaay closer to our level than Oregon.

Yeah really. I think CDC really knew how to recruit good players just didn't know how to coach them. I think we'll see a lot of prior under achieving players make the mark we all thought they would

I'm with you on this. I think DC got some pretty solid recruits but hasn't developed many of them, aside from qb's and wr's.

 

[J-Rod]

Yeah really. I think CDC really knew how to recruit good players just didn't know how to coach them. I think we'll see a lot of prior under achieving players make the mark we all thought they would

LOL I'm sorry ItSucksToBeACSURam, but that is crazy homerism. Wyoming is absolutely closer to Montana's level than it is Oregon's. And we're really playing the "DC was holding everyone down" argument already? Wasn't that said about Glenn when DC showed up? And Koenning before that?

You cannot completely blame everything on the coach....part of the issues last season were bottom line: the players weren't that good. QBs and WRs got it done...Wick was awesome....but the team is still pitifully bad in the trenches. I thought they made that clear many times last season. DC can only shoulder so much of the blame on that.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Yeah really. I think CDC really knew how to recruit good players just didn't know how to coach them. I think we'll see a lot of prior under achieving players make the mark we all thought they would

LOL I'm sorry ItSucksToBeACSURam, but that is crazy homerism. Wyoming is absolutely closer to Montana's level than it is Oregon's. And we're really playing the "DC was holding everyone down" argument already? Wasn't that said about Glenn when DC showed up? And Koenning before that?

You cannot completely blame everything on the coach....part of the issues last season were bottom line: the players weren't that good. QBs and WRs got it done...Wick was awesome....but the team is still pitifully bad in the trenches. I thought they made that clear many times last season. DC can only shoulder so much of the blame on that.

Who should the onus fall to then? Players weren't that good? Really? It's amazing how now that he's gone all the piss and vinegar for CDC is suddenly forgotten and "oh, he wasn't that bad. Our players are just shitty and poor pitiful Wyoming." Give me a break. We have players WAY better than Montana. I guess I'd rather be a homer than an eternal pessimist. If you really think were no better than Montana than I guess nothing I say will change anything

 

[BeaverPoke]

I've said this before, and I will say it again: We are not losing to Montana. Bohl just shit-stomped nearly every FCS team he played for the last 3 years, with an FCS team. He is not going to lose to an FCS team in his first FBS team.
We will probably dominate Montana because Bohl wants to see how his players actually play. Wick will probably end up with like 150+ yards, and our defense will hold Montana to under 21.

And we have a better shot at Oregon than we do Mich. State.
Oregon can't handle power, and there is no way we beat Mich. State at their own game, in their house.

But... the final box score will make it look like we were in the Mich. State game more than the Oregon game.
Oregon will probably end up beating us 63-14. And Mich. State will probably beat us 42-14.

 

[PokeTransplant]

Oregon will not score 60 on us.

 

[Wyo2dal]

If they do I'm going to the Basketball forums early to see how Nance is doing.

 

[joshvanklomp]

In Bohl's first year at NDSU, the Bison were still playing a mostly-Division II schedule. However, in Week 2, on September 6, 2003, the Bison traveled to Missoula to play the Montana Grizzlies, who were coming off an 11-3 season the year before. The Bison won 25-24.

 

[PokeOLoco]

I don't think anyone said we were losing to Montana. I think we're capable of losing but I don't see it. It's just a very tough schedule for Bohl's first year, plus I said 3-4 definite wins with the potential to win 5-6. That's pretty good if we get to that top end but it's going to be a fight with what we lost and who we're playing.

 

[McPeachy]

In Bohl's first year at NDSU, the Bison were still playing a mostly-Division II schedule. However, in Week 2, on September 6, 2003, the Bison traveled to Missoula to play the Montana Grizzlies, who were coming off an 11-3 season the year before. The Bison won 25-24.

And?

Maybe I am a bit edgy, but Wyoming has had plenty of success stories at the FBS level, that don't matter one bit today or in the future. Just like it doesn't matter one bit what NDSU and Bohl did in the past.

 

[Wyo2dal]

In Bohl's first year at NDSU, the Bison were still playing a mostly-Division II schedule. However, in Week 2, on September 6, 2003, the Bison traveled to Missoula to play the Montana Grizzlies, who were coming off an 11-3 season the year before. The Bison won 25-24.

And?

Maybe I am a bit edgy, but Wyoming has had plenty of success stories at the FBS level, that don't matter one bit today or in the future. Just like it doesn't matter one bit what NDSU and Bohl did in the past.

I believe what he is saying is Bohl took a team he was new to that had been losing and beat a top team. That would be like Bohl beating Oregon or Michigan State. I'm not saying he will but that is what he is saying, He was able to win with an unknown team that probably lacked structure.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

No, not at all. I think by virtue of adding strength and reducing body fat you are going to enhance speed. One thing is for sure Coach D is making warriors out of these men. More than anything with my son I can see the mindset changing. Like all of the signs around the facility say now....."if you stay you will be a champion" Not only literally but metaphorically as well!

That is kind of what I thought, but then that leads me to the same conclusion as Junky. WTH were they doing before? If the current staff is really increasing strength, speed, and explosiveness, then the previous staff lacked strength, speed, and explosiveness in their workout program.

 

[fromolwyoming]

No, not at all. I think by virtue of adding strength and reducing body fat you are going to enhance speed. One thing is for sure Coach D is making warriors out of these men. More than anything with my son I can see the mindset changing. Like all of the signs around the facility say now....."if you stay you will be a champion" Not only literally but metaphorically as well!

That is kind of what I thought, but then that leads me to the same conclusion as Junky. WTH were they doing before? If the current staff is really increasing strength, speed, and explosiveness, then the previous staff lacked strength, speed, and explosiveness in their workout program.

Yeah, I've been asking this for awhile, ever since it came out that the players were just blowing through not only personal, but in general weight room records within weeks of Bohl showing up. Yet in the 5 years that DC was here, we heard nothing of these sort of things, and the on field performance confirmed it, especially on the lines.

And it makes me laugh even more when the sheep fans were bragging how they "stole" a S&C assistant coach that we pretty much fired.