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Good Grief!!! You all jumping off the bandwagon tonight is pathetic! Seriously, none of you thought we would have losses like this come conference time? I think you all got caught in the hype of the possibility that we may go to the NCAA's this year and forgot the fact that this years team is YOUNG!!! We're two (TWO) short years out of crap land and you all act like we're Duke losing to Missouri Southern!
Shyatt has done wonders with what he has. This team wasn't even considered for ANYTHING this year, and look at what we've done?
Washington is his only threat, and everyone knows that. Nance is still growing and maturing, he has been getting better, but everyone made him out to be a stud this year because he had a couple of breakout games last year. Gillmore, is Gillmore. I think he is trying to hard to replace Martinez. Adams, Grabau, Sobey... All young and inexperienced. But every one of them shows promise for a better future.
And not to mention that Shyatt did lose Martinez this year. He was a good player, kind of sketchy...Actually, I remember earlier this season several of you complaining that Martinez was taking too many three's, Sounds like you shifted that to Gillmore now.
Nonetheless, We're 15-4. Yeah, it would be nice to get some of these key wins, but some nights it ain't going to happen. 15-4.
Just two years ago we were 8-11 and lost our 19th game of the year to AF by 21, and we losing to other bottom dwellers in our conf (Utah, TCU, CSU) by 13, 18 and 17. I'd always love the win, but If I had to choose between winning the majority and staying in the games we lose, or Losing to everyone by double digits (like SDSU by 39; 96-57.) I'd say keep doing what we're doing, cause we're obviously getting better...Or again, have you forgotten just a few short years ago?
 
kansasCowboy said:
Good Grief!!! You all jumping off the bandwagon tonight is pathetic! Seriously, none of you thought we would have losses like this come conference time? I think you all got caught in the hype of the possibility that we may go to the NCAA's this year and forgot the fact that this years team is YOUNG!!! We're two (TWO) short years out of crap land and you all act like we're Duke losing to Missouri Southern!
Shyatt has done wonders with what he has. This team wasn't even considered for ANYTHING this year, and look at what we've done?
Washington is his only threat, and everyone knows that. Nance is still growing and maturing, he has been getting better, but everyone made him out to be a stud this year because he had a couple of breakout games last year. Gillmore, is Gillmore. I think he is trying to hard to replace Martinez. Adams, Grabau, Sobey... All young and inexperienced. But every one of them shows promise for a better future.
And not to mention that Shyatt did lose Martinez this year. He was a good player, kind of sketchy...Actually, I remember earlier this season several of you complaining that Martinez was taking too many three's, Sounds like you shifted that to Gillmore now.
Nonetheless, We're 15-4. Yeah, it would be nice to get some of these key wins, but some nights it ain't going to happen. 15-4.
Just two years ago we were 8-11 and lost our 19th game of the year to AF by 21, and we losing to other bottom dwellers in our conf (Utah, TCU, CSU) by 13, 18 and 17. I'd always love the win, but If I had to choose between winning the majority and staying in the games we lose, or Losing to everyone by double digits (like SDSU by 39; 96-57.) I'd say keep doing what we're doing, cause we're obviously getting better...Or again, have you forgotten just a few short years ago?

First of all, we are not getting better. Schroyer set the bar remarkably low. We had a losing conference record last year. We will again this year. Without Washington, we will again next year, unless the next Justin Williams is somewhere in the Jc ranks waiting to come here.

I don't think it's too much to ask to beat a lousy air force team on your home court. I'm tired of watching us play and wishing we had the other teams players. Adams and Nance are the only 2 players who have any future here.
You can scream 15-4 all you want. Our OOC was hardly imposing. Is it better than Schroyer? Of course. But I don't see much talent on this team and very little to get excited about this year or next.

Every year, it's one and done in the tournament. It will be again this year. Ho hum. Nothing changes around here. Were better but were still shitty.
 
bladerunnr said:
kansasCowboy said:
Good Grief!!! You all jumping off the bandwagon tonight is pathetic! Seriously, none of you thought we would have losses like this come conference time? I think you all got caught in the hype of the possibility that we may go to the NCAA's this year and forgot the fact that this years team is YOUNG!!! We're two (TWO) short years out of crap land and you all act like we're Duke losing to Missouri Southern!
Shyatt has done wonders with what he has. This team wasn't even considered for ANYTHING this year, and look at what we've done?
Washington is his only threat, and everyone knows that. Nance is still growing and maturing, he has been getting better, but everyone made him out to be a stud this year because he had a couple of breakout games last year. Gillmore, is Gillmore. I think he is trying to hard to replace Martinez. Adams, Grabau, Sobey... All young and inexperienced. But every one of them shows promise for a better future.
And not to mention that Shyatt did lose Martinez this year. He was a good player, kind of sketchy...Actually, I remember earlier this season several of you complaining that Martinez was taking too many three's, Sounds like you shifted that to Gillmore now.
Nonetheless, We're 15-4. Yeah, it would be nice to get some of these key wins, but some nights it ain't going to happen. 15-4.
Just two years ago we were 8-11 and lost our 19th game of the year to AF by 21, and we losing to other bottom dwellers in our conf (Utah, TCU, CSU) by 13, 18 and 17. I'd always love the win, but If I had to choose between winning the majority and staying in the games we lose, or Losing to everyone by double digits (like SDSU by 39; 96-57.) I'd say keep doing what we're doing, cause we're obviously getting better...Or again, have you forgotten just a few short years ago?

First of all, we are not getting better. Schroyer set the bar remarkably low. We had a losing conference record last year. We will again this year. Without Washington, we will again next year, unless the next Justin Williams is somewhere in the Jc ranks waiting to come here.

I don't think it's too much to ask to beat a lousy air force team on your home court. I'm tired of watching us play and wishing we had the other teams players. Adams and Nance are the only 2 players who have any future here.
You can scream 15-4 all you want. Our OOC was hardly imposing. Is it better than Schroyer? Of course. But I don't see much talent on this team and very little to get excited about this year or next.

Every year, it's one and done in the tournament. It will be again this year. Ho hum. Nothing changes around here. Were better but were still shitty.

Horse hocky!

It wasn't long ago I was abandoning games at half time because the pokes were already out it. Shyatt maybe is still a little short of the talent it takes to be at the top of the conference, but you can't say they aren't competitive. The players give 100% and are playing team ball, which is a refreshing change from the recent past. Despite the recent setbacks and losses, I for one am more excited for cowboy bball than I have been for quite awhile.

The MWC is a top notch bbal conference, second in RPI. Mathematically, roughly half the teams are going to have losing records.

Cowboy up pardner!
 
I think I plainly stated that things are better now than under Schroyer. How could it be any worse? But, last year at this time we were 17-4 and lost 6 of our last 8 conference games and then 1 and done in the tournament.

Are we competitive? Yes, because we take the air out of the ball. Do we play team ball? Sort of. Last night, our point guard hucked it up there 17 times. The offense is an absolute mess and is horrific to watch.

Here's my fear: If you're a top high school player and see what's going on in Laramie, would you want to play this style of ball? I sure as hell wouldn't. The very style to make us competitive is going to keep us from recruiting decent players in the future. I hope I'm wrong about that.
 
kansasCowboy said:
Good Grief!!! You all jumping off the bandwagon tonight is pathetic! Seriously, none of you thought we would have losses like this come conference time? I think you all got caught in the hype of the possibility that we may go to the NCAA's this year and forgot the fact that this years team is YOUNG!!! We're two (TWO) short years out of crap land and you all act like we're Duke losing to Missouri Southern!
Shyatt has done wonders with what he has. This team wasn't even considered for ANYTHING this year, and look at what we've done?
Washington is his only threat, and everyone knows that. Nance is still growing and maturing, he has been getting better, but everyone made him out to be a stud this year because he had a couple of breakout games last year. Gillmore, is Gillmore. I think he is trying to hard to replace Martinez. Adams, Grabau, Sobey... All young and inexperienced. But every one of them shows promise for a better future.
And not to mention that Shyatt did lose Martinez this year. He was a good player, kind of sketchy...Actually, I remember earlier this season several of you complaining that Martinez was taking too many three's, Sounds like you shifted that to Gillmore now.
Nonetheless, We're 15-4. Yeah, it would be nice to get some of these key wins, but some nights it ain't going to happen. 15-4.
Just two years ago we were 8-11 and lost our 19th game of the year to AF by 21, and we losing to other bottom dwellers in our conf (Utah, TCU, CSU) by 13, 18 and 17. I'd always love the win, but If I had to choose between winning the majority and staying in the games we lose, or Losing to everyone by double digits (like SDSU by 39; 96-57.) I'd say keep doing what we're doing, cause we're obviously getting better...Or again, have you forgotten just a few short years ago?

I don't think you actually read anything at all or you would know we all understand where the issue is and we all accept that Shyatt can get it fixed but he most likely won't have it fixed this year. We know that and we get that and it's depressing that our special season was shot in the foot by stupidity. No one is bailing on the team pull your head out of your ass and pay attention to what we are saying.
 
bladerunnr said:
I think I plainly stated that things are better now than under Schroyer. How could it be any worse? But, last year at this time we were 17-4 and lost 6 of our last 8 conference games and then 1 and done in the tournament.

Are we competitive? Yes, because we take the air out of the ball. Do we play team ball? Sort of. Last night, our point guard hucked it up there 17 times. The offense is an absolute mess and is horrific to watch.

Here's my fear: If you're a top high school player and see what's going on in Laramie, would you want to play this style of ball? I sure as hell wouldn't. The very style to make us competitive is going to keep us from recruiting decent players in the future. I hope I'm wrong about that.

You are wrong about that most high school kids that have a future in the sport are recruited by the coach not because of what they see in the media. Sure there are the people that know nothing about coaches and will go where ever they get offers but not the entire college world runs that way.
 
We absolutely got beat up in this game - from start to finish. I have not seen the stats, but I'm guessing Wyoming had twice as many fouls called on us as AF did. McKinney was right, the officiating was crap. Combine that with the fact that we couldn't make outside shots and AF knowing that, packed it in down low (double & triple teaming and literally beating the crap out of LW & Nance and anyone who tried driving to the basket). That and AF being a well disciplined and good outside shooting team, was the reason we lost this game. I was close enough to the action to get the sweat and breath in my face, so I am not imagining this.
 
Wyo2dal said:
I don't think you actually read anything at all or you would know we all understand where the issue is and we all accept that Shyatt can get it fixed but he most likely won't have it fixed this year. We know that and we get that and it's depressing that our special season was shot in the foot by stupidity. No one is bailing on the team pull your head out of your ass and pay attention to what we are saying.

First off, I don't appreciate you getting on to me for saying my piece. Second, my post was meant for the hard core complainers like Bladerunner, who do nothing it seems but trash on this team whenever we seem to struggle.

Bladerunner ...A lousy Air Force team? Really? Are you talking about the Air Force team that lost to (19-2) Wichita St. by only three, or took UNLV, AT UNLV to OT just to lose by 5. Or maybe went to Boise and hung 90 on the Broncs. That's lousy? Look, AFA may just be 12-6, but every single one of their losses is legit: Colorado, #20 Wich. St., #14 FLORIDA, Richmond, UNLV and CSU.
Look this isn't the AFA team that everyone stepped on for the last few years. They are good. Scary good. I could honestly see them making a run in this conf.

Don't hate on me, just becaus you have a sourness in your stomach from last night!
 
bladerunnr said:
I think I plainly stated that things are better now than under Schroyer. How could it be any worse? But, last year at this time we were 17-4 and lost 6 of our last 8 conference games and then 1 and done in the tournament.

Are we competitive? Yes, because we take the air out of the ball. Do we play team ball? Sort of. Last night, our point guard hucked it up there 17 times. The offense is an absolute mess and is horrific to watch.

Here's my fear: If you're a top high school player and see what's going on in Laramie, would you want to play this style of ball? I sure as hell wouldn't. The very style to make us competitive is going to keep us from recruiting decent players in the future. I hope I'm wrong about that.

Oh by the way Bladerunner: Just taking the air out of the ball doesn't make you competitive. If you remember 80's and 90's WAC when AFA was actually bad. They took the air out of the ball and they would still lose by 20 plus in most games. But I'm sure you have forgotten that...Just to far gone in the past huh?
Our team IS actually good enough to compete in most games. And on top of that WE ARE YOUNG! Their is nothing around that. Look it up. Nance SOPH, Grabau SOPH, Adams FRESH, Sobey (Transfer JR), Cooke SOPH, Halderson FRESH, Everyone else with exception of Sellers is a FRESH, Sellers being a SOPH. That leave TWO Seniors. Washington and Gillmore. Both doing good jobs trying to keep this team afloat.
 
Tough game. Wanted to stop back by and say 'thanks' for letting me talk bball with you. I was so impressed with Washington last night, truely the real deal. It will be an interesting game when we both meet again and see what adjustments both coaches make. Your defense against Mike Lyons did it's job but the rest of the team was able to pick up the slack. Here's my take on the game if interested from my blog at http://ricksfalconreview.blogspot.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; #and all these newlinks below can also be found there#. Take care til next we meet and good luck this week. ltcpilot/rick'77

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27 Jan 2013 New: AF Wins 57-48 at Wyoming, Postgame stories AF /MWC, AF Lady's lose
Rick's Falcon Review: Postgame-Air Force over Wyoming 57-48 Analysis and more
Falcons get rare road win with victory at Wyoming
Final Stats/Box Score AF over Wyoming
UW Cowboys go offensively cold vs Air Force
Offensive woes lead to UW loss to Air Force
Recap: Wyoming vs. Air Force
Recap: Fresno State vs. Colorado State
Men's basketball: Bulldogs lose to Colorado State 63-74
Colorado State basketball leans on big first half in win at Fresno State
Recap: Nevada 75 vs. Boise State 59
Wolf Pack wear down Boise State men
Boise State men's basketball falls 75-59 to Nevada
Nevada basketball team beats Boise State, 75-59 #with photos#
Recap: San Diego St 55vs. New Mexico 34
San Diego State reels New Mexico back in MWC
Cowgirls beat the Lady Falcons
 
kansasCowboy said:
Wyo2dal said:
I don't think you actually read anything at all or you would know we all understand where the issue is and we all accept that Shyatt can get it fixed but he most likely won't have it fixed this year. We know that and we get that and it's depressing that our special season was shot in the foot by stupidity. No one is bailing on the team pull your head out of your ass and pay attention to what we are saying.

First off, I don't appreciate you getting on to me for saying my piece. Second, my post was meant for the hard core complainers like Bladerunner, who do nothing it seems but trash on this team whenever we seem to struggle.

Bladerunner ...A lousy Air Force team? Really? Are you talking about the Air Force team that lost to (19-2) Wichita St. by only three, or took UNLV, AT UNLV to OT just to lose by 5. Or maybe went to Boise and hung 90 on the Broncs. That's lousy? Look, AFA may just be 12-6, but every single one of their losses is legit: Colorado, #20 Wich. St., #14 FLORIDA, Richmond, UNLV and CSU.
Look this isn't the AFA team that everyone stepped on for the last few years. They are good. Scary good. I could honestly see them making a run in this conf.

Don't hate on me, just becaus you have a sourness in your stomach from last night!

I didn't get on your ass for saying your piece I got on your ass for calling us all band wagoners in less words :P I certainly don't care if you have an opinion and never bitched about your opinion but no one here that is a fan is jumping ship.
 
Hey Kansas cowboy. I haven't had one negative post about this team this year. I posted what I thought about the Martinez incident, which had nothing to do with the team's play. In fact, I've hardly posted on this board this year.
Just because I'm not a sunshine pumper like you, that doesn't make me a "hardcore complainer". I post it like I see it.
If you're happy with where were at, that's great.

I love fans like you. Every team that beats us is legit and poised to make a run. Air force will not finish in the top 5 in the conference. Therefore, I consider them a "lousy team".

When we finish in the top 1/2 of the conference, I will get excited. It's not happening this year. I don't see it happening next year either, unless we get some jc stud. Keep pumping that sunshine!
 
We lost for one reason....three point shooting. If we shoot only slightly better, we win. We then don't shoot as many threes and the paint opens up a little more for the rest of team. We don't have the talent to just get it to the rim. We need to hit a few threes to open up the game.
 
bladerunnr said:
Hey Kansas cowboy. I haven't had one negative post about this team this year. I posted what I thought about the Martinez incident, which had nothing to do with the team's play. In fact, I've hardly posted on this board this year.
Just because I'm not a sunshine pumper like you, that doesn't make me a "hardcore complainer". I post it like I see it.
If you're happy with where were at, that's great.

I love fans like you. Every team that beats us is legit and poised to make a run. Air force will not finish in the top 5 in the conference. Therefore, I consider them a "lousy team".

When we finish in the top 1/2 of the conference, I will get excited. It's not happening this year. I don't see it happening next year either, unless we get some jc stud. Keep pumping that sunshine!


So, then don't be happy until we're a contender then. That's your choice. But the simple fact is is Shyatt is two year into building this program back up from one of it's darkest era's it's been in for a very long time. While we see success (21-12 CBI last year, currently 15-4) I'm not one of the ones saying we're their as contenders either. But I can understand and realize why we lose a game like we did last night to AFA. We are building up to that contender spot. But it does take time (seasons) to get there. So what do I, or anyone of us do til then? Do we just sit there and cheer when we win, and then turnaround and complain when we lose during times of medial success? You really want to know why I pump sunshine? It's because I can (and don't take this the wrong way) tolerate losing close. That doesn't mean I like it. But it sure beats the hell out of getting embarrassed by 39, 18, 17, every other freaking night!
You're also right that last year wasn't good considering we only went 6-8 in conference. But dd you ever consider with a brand new coach, new staff, several top players transferring (to make us YOUNG), and overall the legitimacy of the quality of opponents we have in this conference (Laymen s terms: The conference is Freaking good) that (6-8) was a step up from back to back seasons of (3-13)??? Then we do it again, with a younger, less experienced squad. And we start out hot! We add a little parity (Martinez) and then start the real season in the Freaking Good conference. And you expect us to equal or better our record and contend? If I recall, the majority of us were predicting before the season that this team would win 15 to 18 to maybe 20 games total this year. The Only one on here who talked about making it to the NCAA's was Beaverpoke , who had us going 27-3. Did we all forget reality last night and decide this season is over just because we lost to "lowly" Air Force? We have more than a half of the conference slate yet to be played. We've showed we can come out and win some games, and we've seen our team struggle shooting in others. But this team knows what it's like to win Big games (#19 CU, #15 SDS) I think they will be able to compete in all of these games this year and potentially have success in some or most.
Also, I gave you the run down on AFA, it's your choice whether you would like to call then legit or not, but they can easily be 5th in this league by the end maybe even higher. They handled Boise easy in Boise. They handled us, in Laramie, They've already handled Nevada, now they have Fresno. Boise and Wyo still have to play in Clune, which is tough. If they sweep one or the both of us and potentially sweep Nevada and Fresno... That's four teams below then which makes them 5th. On top of that considering how they played UNLV in Vegas, I really think they will beat one or more of the top tier teams at Clune. So, you can predict it however you want. I can see this AFA team making a run, really easily. But, at the end of the season, I'm sure you won't even remember this post, but one of us will be right.

And Wyo2dal... You and I are big WYO fans, we both know it. And I'm sure that you know by reading my posts that when I write something that might ruffle some feathers, I typically call that person or those people out. This time I didn't which made it seem like I was talking about EVERYONE. I wasn't. I'm sorry. I still think your a heck of a guy and love the fact that I can get my dose of the Cowboys streamed video or radio from you. I appreciate it.
 
I'm not going to quote your entire post but I'll just make a few points. I'm not sold that this conference is that good. Last year, only 1 team made it out of the first round. UNLV lost to CU and CSU was thumped by Murray st., hardly powerhouse teams. Until we show better in the NCAA tournament, I'm not that convinced. Oh, and SDS lost in the 1st round as they usually do. After seeing most of the teams in the MW this year, I'm not convinced that any of these teams are beyond good.

I hope Shyatt is the guy. I'm sick of watching mediocre (at best) bb. I'm disappointed in the talent he has brought to the program so far. Nance and Adams are keepers. That's it. I choose to be skeptical because this program has given me no reason to be otherwise for the last several years. The reason we can't score has nothing to do with coaching, imo. We simply don't have the talent. At least Bucky brought in some major league JC players in the past - Justin Williams and Donte Richardson as examples.

Schroyer just about destroyed the program. So maybe it will take longer than I thought. But next year, without Washington, doesn't look any better than this year.
 
bladerunnr said:
I'm not going to quote your entire post but I'll just make a few points. I'm not sold that this conference is that good. Last year, only 1 team made it out of the first round. UNLV lost to CU and CSU was thumped by Murray st., hardly powerhouse teams. Until we show better in the NCAA tournament, I'm not that convinced. Oh, and SDS lost in the 1st round as they usually do. After seeing most of the teams in the MW this year, I'm not convinced that any of these teams are beyond good.

I hope Shyatt is the guy. I'm sick of watching mediocre (at best) bb. I'm disappointed in the talent he has brought to the program so far. Nance and Adams are keepers. That's it. I choose to be skeptical because this program has given me no reason to be otherwise for the last several years. The reason we can't score has nothing to do with coaching, imo. We simply don't have the talent. At least Bucky brought in some major league JC players in the past - Justin Williams and Donte Richardson as examples.

Schroyer just about destroyed the program. So maybe it will take longer than I thought. But next year, without Washington, doesn't look any better than this year.

You don't like his recruiting, because??? Most of the freshman we have are not standout players right now? Typically what freshman are? Bailey hardly did anything his freshman year, Davis as well. Occasionally you will get a standout, like Dembo or Ewing. But you do realize that most solid programs redshirt most all their freshman and occasionally play one (sparingly). Wyoming is YOUNG! Shyatt doesn't have that option. He has to throw some freshman out there on the court already. Adams has some GREAT potential. He's already shown that he can play on any given night against anybody. Granted, being a freshman he does have some games that come back on him. It's expected. Nance has potential. He's a pretty solid player but still, just a soph. Grabau was pretty much forced into the starting line up this, his soph year. He has potential, but still struggles at times. Where this team had Luster, Waddell, Washington, Cruze and Martinez all as threats on any given night, this year we have Washington and Gillmore. Which to our freshman is like telling a 9th grader to go and start and succeed on the varsity state championship underdog team. We have several holes that underclassmen are needing to fill this year, it is a transition, maybe we hit 20 wins this year, maybe we don't, but even if we don't, A LOT of these underclassmen got playing experience and have even experienced success with eachother already this year. That will help us in the future.
 
kansasCowboy said:
bladerunnr said:
I'm not going to quote your entire post but I'll just make a few points. I'm not sold that this conference is that good. Last year, only 1 team made it out of the first round. UNLV lost to CU and CSU was thumped by Murray st., hardly powerhouse teams. Until we show better in the NCAA tournament, I'm not that convinced. Oh, and SDS lost in the 1st round as they usually do. After seeing most of the teams in the MW this year, I'm not convinced that any of these teams are beyond good.

I hope Shyatt is the guy. I'm sick of watching mediocre (at best) bb. I'm disappointed in the talent he has brought to the program so far. Nance and Adams are keepers. That's it. I choose to be skeptical because this program has given me no reason to be otherwise for the last several years. The reason we can't score has nothing to do with coaching, imo. We simply don't have the talent. At least Bucky brought in some major league JC players in the past - Justin Williams and Donte Richardson as examples.

Schroyer just about destroyed the program. So maybe it will take longer than I thought. But next year, without Washington, doesn't look any better than this year.

You don't like his recruiting, because??? Most of the freshman we have are not standout players right now? Typically what freshman are? Bailey hardly did anything his freshman year, Davis as well. Occasionally you will get a standout, like Dembo or Ewing. But you do realize that most solid programs redshirt most all their freshman and occasionally play one (sparingly). Wyoming is YOUNG! Shyatt doesn't have that option. He has to throw some freshman out there on the court already. Adams has some GREAT potential. He's already shown that he can play on any given night against anybody. Granted, being a freshman he does have some games that come back on him. It's expected. Nance has potential. He's a pretty solid player but still, just a soph. Grabau was pretty much forced into the starting line up this, his soph year. He has potential, but still struggles at times. Where this team had Luster, Waddell, Washington, Cruze and Martinez all as threats on any given night, this year we have Washington and Gillmore. Which to our freshman is like telling a 9th grader to go and start and succeed on the varsity state championship underdog team. We have several holes that underclassmen are needing to fill this year, it is a transition, maybe we hit 20 wins this year, maybe we don't, but even if we don't, A LOT of these underclassmen got playing experience and have even experienced success with eachother already this year. That will help us in the future.

I have to agree. We have a lot of young/inexperienced players on that bench that given more minutes will blossom. Sobey can really shoot. DC has quickness and the ability to jump out of the gym. Haldorson probably should have been redshirted to give him another year to grow and develop but I expect him to be a good player. Hankerson is going to be huge for us too. The three incoming signees so far look promising too. Keonta Vernon looks like a special player and the big kid, totally spaced his name, looks like he's gonna develop into a decent inside force. Little Washington looks to be a competent ball handler and someone who can drop some points if he has to, a lot like Gillmore.

As a lifelong Cowboy fan I know how much it stings to constantly be the team thats "going to be great in a couple years" instead of the team thats great now but I really think we have a coach that wants to be here and will turn this program around. When I say turn this program around, I mean from a good team to a conference contender every year kinda team. As fans were just in for a ride that no matter how short is going to be too long.
 
i agree Nance was absent, it's time for him to man up and score the ball more, all others stop the 3, take 3 steps in and shoot the 15-18 footers to score more points instead of living by the 3 and for sure dying by it...Leonard was a stud down low and they went away from that as well. Shyatt needs to change things up
 
Some people are forgetting about Hankerson who is sitting out this season due to transfer rules. From what I am hearing, he has the talent to fill in for LW next year. We will need him and the others will have more maturity and experience. I would like to see a big man with talent & athletic ability and also would like our 3 point shooting be a constant threat. That would spread out the defenses against us and prevent them from packing it in under the basket.
 
WYCowboy said:
We absolutely got beat up in this game - from start to finish. I have not seen the stats, but I'm guessing Wyoming had twice as many fouls called on us as AF did. McKinney was right, the officiating was crap.
As a basketball official myself, the worst thing you can be is inconsistent. That's EXACTLY what this crew was. Hand checks are fouls on Wyoming, but Air Force can tackle our guards and it's no problem? That's bullshit. That crew should be ashamed of itself. I hope the league watches the tape and gives all three of them their walking papers.
 

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