AF @ UW

[seattlecowboy]

Lieberman played really well. Good for him. James only played 9 min which is unacceptable. James should be getting 30 min a game.

It was interesting that Barns and Naughton both played 0 minutes. We really did go small.

How about getting Marshall some minutes. What a waste..

That, too. I've finally given up on seeing Marshall.

This is my biggest gripe with Shyatt. James comes in and scores 7 quick points and Shyatt immediately takes him out. He never saw another minute in the game. WTF!?!? Then Trey throws one into the stands and then dribbles it off his foot out of bounds on two straight possessions but plays most the game. I don't get it. Trey hasn't brought anything to the floor this season.

I think we could have beat them by 30 if James plays the amount of minutes he should.

Holmgren just tweeted out that even though he was 3-3 from the field he was -9 in plus minus rating in his 9 minutes. Those advanced analytics don't always tell the whole story but they do show something. Gorski on the other hand was +19 in plus minus rating. Pretty impressive.

Do you know, what does this analytics process take into account? What was Trey's rating last night?

The only thing the rating takes into account is when you are on the floor playing how many points your team as a whole is up or down in points.

So for example if you are in the game for 5 minutes from the 20 minute mark until the 15 minute mark... if the team as a whole is up by 5 you, yourself will have a +5 rating. Then let's say you are out but come back in at the 7 minute mark and your team is down by 7, then you, yourself aren't graded from the 15 minute mark to the 7 minute mark as you weren't in the game. You enter at the 7 minute mark with that +5 rating and then if the team again out scores the other team by 4 more points while you are in there you now have a +9 rating.

It basically takes into account how much your team scores and gives up while you, yourself is in the game but doesn't grade you while you are not on the floor. NBA uses this stat but seems to be used more now in college.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

Lieberman played really well. Good for him. James only played 9 min which is unacceptable. James should be getting 30 min a game.

It was interesting that Barns and Naughton both played 0 minutes. We really did go small.

How about getting Marshall some minutes. What a waste..

That, too. I've finally given up on seeing Marshall.

This is my biggest gripe with Shyatt. James comes in and scores 7 quick points and Shyatt immediately takes him out. He never saw another minute in the game. WTF!?!? Then Trey throws one into the stands and then dribbles it off his foot out of bounds on two straight possessions but plays most the game. I don't get it. Trey hasn't brought anything to the floor this season.

I think we could have beat them by 30 if James plays the amount of minutes he should.

Holmgren just tweeted out that even though he was 3-3 from the field he was -9 in plus minus rating in his 9 minutes. Those advanced analytics don't always tell the whole story but they do show something. Gorski on the other hand was +19 in plus minus rating. Pretty impressive.

Do you know, what does this analytics process take into account? What was Trey's rating last night?

The only thing the rating takes into account is when you are on the floor playing how many points your team as a whole is up or down in points.

So for example if you are in the game for 5 minutes from the 20 minute mark until the 15 minute mark... if the team as a whole is up by 5 you, yourself will have a +5 rating. Then let's say you are out but come back in at the 7 minute mark and your team is down by 7, then you, yourself aren't graded from the 15 minute mark to the 7 minute mark as you weren't in the game. You enter at the 7 minute mark with that +5 rating and then if the team again out scores the other team by 4 more points while you are in there you now have a +9 rating.

It basically takes into account how much your team scores and gives up while you, yourself is in the game but doesn't grade you while you are not on the floor. NBA uses this stat but seems to be used more now in college.

So its not a true "individual" rating. It is also going to be skewed depending on the minutes played? Correct? So if JJ had averaged the same minutes as, say TW3, his rating would have been far different. If I am understanding that correctly, it really isn't a slam against JJ personally but as a team in the that 9 minute snapshot.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Lieberman played really well. Good for him. James only played 9 min which is unacceptable. James should be getting 30 min a game.

It was interesting that Barns and Naughton both played 0 minutes. We really did go small.

How about getting Marshall some minutes. What a waste..

That, too. I've finally given up on seeing Marshall.

This is my biggest gripe with Shyatt. James comes in and scores 7 quick points and Shyatt immediately takes him out. He never saw another minute in the game. WTF!?!? Then Trey throws one into the stands and then dribbles it off his foot out of bounds on two straight possessions but plays most the game. I don't get it. Trey hasn't brought anything to the floor this season.

I think we could have beat them by 30 if James plays the amount of minutes he should.

Holmgren just tweeted out that even though he was 3-3 from the field he was -9 in plus minus rating in his 9 minutes. Those advanced analytics don't always tell the whole story but they do show something. Gorski on the other hand was +19 in plus minus rating. Pretty impressive.

Do you know, what does this analytics process take into account? What was Trey's rating last night?

The only thing the rating takes into account is when you are on the floor playing how many points your team as a whole is up or down in points.

So for example if you are in the game for 5 minutes from the 20 minute mark until the 15 minute mark... if the team as a whole is up by 5 you, yourself will have a +5 rating. Then let's say you are out but come back in at the 7 minute mark and your team is down by 7, then you, yourself aren't graded from the 15 minute mark to the 7 minute mark as you weren't in the game. You enter at the 7 minute mark with that +5 rating and then if the team again out scores the other team by 4 more points while you are in there you now have a +9 rating.

It basically takes into account how much your team scores and gives up while you, yourself is in the game but doesn't grade you while you are not on the floor. NBA uses this stat but seems to be used more now in college.

So its not a true "individual" rating. It is also going to be skewed depending on the minutes played? Correct? So if JJ had averaged the same minutes as, say TW3, his rating would have been far different. If I am understanding that correctly, it really isn't a slam against JJ personally but as a team in the that 9 minute snapshot.

Correct. It is an individual stat but in reality it doesn't work that way. It is more of a team stat while you are in the game but then projects on you individually. So Trey and JJ could both play 9 minutes but let's say JJ's 9 minutes are in the first half and he is on the floor with Dalton, Herndon, Lieberman and Barnes for example and they get down by 9 points then JJ has a -9 rating.

Then Trey could get his 9 minutes in the 2nd half but he could be on the floor with Herndon, Gorski, Dalton and Adams and they could be up by 7 points so Trey would get a +7 rating. Well Trey got to play with Adams and Gorski on the floor while JJ was playing with completely different people so it somewhat is kind of skewed based on who is on the floor with you at the same time.

 

[TSpoke]

It is a rating meant to encompass everything a player does on the floor that might not show up on the stat sheet so it can be pretty useful. It does depend on other players but with enough of a sample is pretty useful.

 

[laxwyo]

Besides actually making a few buckets, I thought Lieberman sucked dick. He can't finish when he takes it to the lane. He personally lost 4 possessions in a row by throwing up backboard breaking Layups and turnovers. The whole second half me and a buddy was asking. "Where's James?"

I admit that he played better and it was nice to see some shots fall for him