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About recruiting top athletes to Laramie vs elsewhere

I can't remember his name from Rock Springs, played as a damn good punter for Miami a few years back. Freddie Capshaw i think?
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Ya I think he was 1st all conference back in 01. Miami win the national title that year?
 
As far as recruiting anyone (Wyo kid or otherwise) to Laramie....

Well, I lived in Laramie for almost twenty years, and I can give you a list 15 pages long as to why I moved and will probably never live there again. And I know I'm not alone. I think this has a HUGE influence as far as recruiting at UW - any sport.

It definitely has a big influence as far as depth. However every smaller D-1 school has depth issues, all of them, except your large school elites. So, that leads us back to recruiting kids to Laramie.....

Quite frankly gentlemen, I don't see it really changing anytime soon. At least in football. Basketball could be another story.


BTW, Sam Boyd Stadium sucks. UNLV football games suck in general, besides their elaborate tailgating sections. Every game is night game. College football should be played on Saturday afternoons, end of story. Also, the f'ing stadium is so far east out of town it's almost in Utah. I could go on...
 
No offense to Laramie, but .

There is no advantage in recruiting for UW. Those who really want to be a part of the program are either legacy cases. or one of the multitude of Wyoming High School Seniors who aren't big, fast, or good enough to even be considered.

As for any out of state recruit, imagine visiting the campuses of CSU, Utah, and Wyoming in the dead of winter, and getting to choose from any of the three.

The few blue chip recruits the state does generate notice the difference as well when they visit out of state Universities.

We either need to build a dome over the entire city and campus, or simply have the most money to throw at the program to get on an even keel.
 
perhaps winning more than 2 games a year might be a good start. I don't think weather has that much to do with it, there are plenty of successful teams in the north. however, location (laramie) has a lot to do with -> not much to offer
 
This thread goes to show you how many posters have played D1 athletics. Looks like none to me. There is more that goes into it than, pussy assed comments like "Laramie is cold" or "There is nothing to do". Those are just lamed ass excuses LOSERS use when the are LOSING. Fuck that.
 
McPeachy said:
This thread goes to show you how many posters have played D1 athletics. Looks like none to me. There is more that goes into it than, pussy assed comments like "Laramie is cold" or "There is nothing to do". Those are just lamed ass excuses LOSERS use when the are LOSING. f##k that.
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I loved my years in Laramie and had a great college experience. We went to CSU a couple of times to watch a UW hockey game and to play a club lacrosse game. I have to say that CSU was even cooler than Laramie. There seemed to be chicks everywhere, wearing sport bras while jogging in herds! I think UW is a better university but just not all that great of a town. I hate cities but as a college dude it was nice to see all the ladies that are in bigger cities.
 
laxwyo said:
McPeachy said:
This thread goes to show you how many posters have played D1 athletics. Looks like none to me. There is more that goes into it than, pussy assed comments like "Laramie is cold" or "There is nothing to do". Those are just lamed ass excuses LOSERS use when the are LOSING. f##k that.
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I loved my years in Laramie and had a great college experience. We went to CSU a couple of times to watch a UW hockey game and to play a club lacrosse game. I have to say that CSU was even cooler than Laramie. There seemed to be chicks everywhere, wearing sport bras while jogging in herds! I think UW is a better university but just not all that great of a town. I hate cities but as a college dude it was nice to see all the ladies that are in bigger cities.
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What is the ratio of freshmen women/men at UW these days? Seemed like it was once about 3 dudes for each female there in my days. You apply the hog factor to an already bleak women to men ratio and that leaves the recruits that either fear women, or prefer guys.

Meanwhile, freshman classes in Colorado are as high as 6 females to each male freshman.

Believe you me, when I saw that kind of stuff, Laramie was removed from consideration pronto.
 
Wyoming is a great school. Didn't meet my wife there, but test drove many potential wives. Partied at Wash Bar in Fort Collins quite a bit too. Both schools have nice coeds.....CSU just has more.

You'd be suprised by the ratio though.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/laramie-wy/university-of-wyoming-3932/@@Index_SB.html

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/fort-collins-co/colorado-state-university-1350/@@Index_SB.html
 
pokerupfront said:
What is the ratio of freshmen women/men at UW these days? Seemed like it was once about 3 dudes for each female there in my days. You apply the hog factor to an already bleak women to men ratio and that leaves the recruits that either fear women, or prefer guys.

Meanwhile, freshman classes in Colorado are as high as 6 females to each male freshman.

Believe you me, when I saw that kind of stuff, Laramie was removed from consideration pronto.
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This is a retarded post (no offense MSUhunter you fucking retard). There are actually more women than men at UW I believe...or at least closer to 50 / 50. And everywhere has fatties...Colorado is no exception...in fact FAR from it.

Then again, I never had an issued bumping uglies at UW in my days...maybe ugly fuckers do though...I see your point.
 
pokerupfront said:
No offense to Laramie, but .

There is no advantage in recruiting for UW. Those who really want to be a part of the program are either legacy cases. or one of the multitude of Wyoming High School Seniors who aren't big, fast, or good enough to even be considered.

As for any out of state recruit, imagine visiting the campuses of CSU, Utah, and Wyoming in the dead of winter, and getting to choose from any of the three.

The few blue chip recruits the state does generate notice the difference as well when they visit out of state Universities.

We either need to build a dome over the entire city and campus, or simply have the most money to throw at the program to get on an even keel.
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Your post would make more sense if Wyoming didn't have a better football history than both of those schools. The key is winning....bottom line. When I was in school we were kicking ass in both football and basketball. The only thing that stopped this from continuing was a few bad coaching hires. If it was all about the so-called best place to live, then you'd see SDSU, etc. have more success.
 
JimmyDimes said:
pokerupfront said:
No offense to Laramie, but .

There is no advantage in recruiting for UW. Those who really want to be a part of the program are either legacy cases. or one of the multitude of Wyoming High School Seniors who aren't big, fast, or good enough to even be considered.

As for any out of state recruit, imagine visiting the campuses of CSU, Utah, and Wyoming in the dead of winter, and getting to choose from any of the three.

The few blue chip recruits the state does generate notice the difference as well when they visit out of state Universities.

We either need to build a dome over the entire city and campus, or simply have the most money to throw at the program to get on an even keel.
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You're post would make more sense if Wyoming didn't have a better football history than both of those schools. The key is winning....bottom line. When I was in school we were kicking ass in both football and basketball. The only thing that stopped this from continuing was a few bad coaching hires. If it was all about the so-called best place to live, then you'd see SDSU, etc. have more success.
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Touche'! UNLV/SDSU would be a good football schools for sure if it was just women! UCLA used to great football program and you know there are some ladies there! They definitely get the recruits! It's probably more of a factor that it takes a long time to build a program. Once it goes in the shitter, it can take a long time to fix. Some programs are immune because they have the cash and know how to keep the program chugging along. We have a young AD, Coach and assistant coaches. Sometimes you can jump in and be successful, but even good programs have trouble for a few years after a coaching change. Look and Notre DAme and Michigan. Let's just keep rooting for our Cowboys and hope that next year is better. Coach C gets at least four years if not five. If year four is like this one, I think we all are in a better situation to be on his ass.
 
JimmyDimes said:
pokerupfront said:
No offense to Laramie, but .

There is no advantage in recruiting for UW. Those who really want to be a part of the program are either legacy cases. or one of the multitude of Wyoming High School Seniors who aren't big, fast, or good enough to even be considered.

As for any out of state recruit, imagine visiting the campuses of CSU, Utah, and Wyoming in the dead of winter, and getting to choose from any of the three.

The few blue chip recruits the state does generate notice the difference as well when they visit out of state Universities.

We either need to build a dome over the entire city and campus, or simply have the most money to throw at the program to get on an even keel.
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Your post would make more sense if Wyoming didn't have a better football history than both of those schools. The key is winning....bottom line. When I was in school we were kicking ass in both football and basketball. The only thing that stopped this from continuing was a few bad coaching hires. If it was all about the so-called best place to live, then you'd see SDSU, etc. have more success.
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The thread is titled, "About Recruiting Top Athletes To Laramie VS elsewhere" I gave you my assertation about the relative attributes that matter to a recruit. Sure, a winning tradition and conference championships is big stuff, but Wyoming has not had that going for them for a long time now.

Now assuming, we are not putting the cart before the horse here, so to speak, there are huge obstacles to overcome in winning the recruiting wars against the other MWC schools. Some of these obstacles may not be overcome in today's world.

Laramie has nothing to put on the table for these recruits other than it's three seasons, last winter, this winter and next winter.

I am glad to now learn that UW is over run with lots of hot coeds, it simply was not the case years ago, when again there was lousy football being played at UW.
 
McPeachy said:
pokerupfront said:
What is the ratio of freshmen women/men at UW these days? Seemed like it was once about 3 dudes for each female there in my days. You apply the hog factor to an already bleak women to men ratio and that leaves the recruits that either fear women, or prefer guys.

Meanwhile, freshman classes in Colorado are as high as 6 females to each male freshman.

Believe you me, when I saw that kind of stuff, Laramie was removed from consideration pronto.
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This is a retarded post (no offense MSUhunter you f##king retard). There are actually more women than men at UW I believe...or at least closer to 50 / 50. And everywhere has fatties...Colorado is no exception...in fact FAR from it.

Then again, I never had an issued bumping uglies at UW in my days...maybe ugly f##kers do though...I see your point.
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I don't think Wyoming or Colorado in general have the same type of issues with overweight coeds that the rest of the country does. Colorado is the "fittest" state in the nation, and I believe Wyoming was #7 - and you'd have to believe that college towns are among the "fitter" of the general state population.

Anyway, Fort Collins does have one major advantage over Laramie - it's been voted "Best Place to Live in the United States" 4 time in the last ten years or so. Guess they didn't ask what sheep feel about living there, though.
 
Wyoming is never going to win recruiting wars versus big time schools, nor are they going to win recruiting wars for kids who are looking for a hip place to live.

That being said, (this is an extreme example) neither does Boise St. Yet they are able to find kids who are undervalued, coach them up and build them into quality football players who play with an enormous chip on their shoulder. It's that chip on the shoulder that I don't see with our current team. When you watch Boise St. play, you can tell their kids are thinking, "I don't care if you're a 5 star recruit, we are going to come in here and knock you in the fucking teeth." It's that fire that I don't see with our team.

We're never going to win recruiting wars, but we can be successful in finding guys who are undervalued with the right mindset, who are capable of being built into something bigger with the right coaching.
 
Wyoming can get players that boise st does if we lower our academic standards and creat a distribution bachelors degree(truck driving basically) then you can pick up kids who are academically ineligible at pac 12 and big 12 schools.
 
Wyoming did have the opportunity to be Boise st. Had we made better coaching hires and followed that kind of structure for building a program it would have worked here. Boise is in a harder recruiting area than Laramie I think. Cheyenne is next door and Denver is not to far away. What the hell is near Boise? Boise until recently didn't have much in the way of facilities or fan support. Most student athletes aren't going to base their decision on what a city has to offer, if anything that can be a negative influence.

I think you all are forgetting the one selling point Laramie does have.. The HIGHEST ALTITUDE division 1 football team! Training at this altitude will get you in better shape as a student athlete than anywhere in the nation. "So after your 4 years of playing for us you will leave in the best athletic shape possible" Since living here and keeping up my workout and training routine, when I go home to sea level I can run for miles and not feel winded. I have never been able to out distance my brother who was a cross country runner but the past 2 years I can easily out distance him now.
 
You certainly can't give 100% blame on how attractive a town is to the quality of recruits the school gets. If this were the case Oklahoma would never win a game as (IMO) Norman makes Laramie look like an oasis. But OU still attracts tons of 4 and 5-star recruits...why? Because of program tradition, coaching and winning.
 
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