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A first time head coach who has never run his own show?

DocHolliday

DocHolliday

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Meaning an assistant either in college or the NFL -- would you object to the hiring of such a person at this important juncture of the program?

Thanks for your thoughts in advance...
 
Okay, thanks guys, good to know everyone would have no problem with this.

Go ahead TB, hire Ted Gilmore, you have this board's apparent approval.
 
You can't post on a Friday evening and then marvel at a lack of response 12 minutes later.
 
I'm not in favor of Gilmore as HC. His resume reminds me too much of Karl Dorrell, minus the three years of experience as an OC.

However, he seems to be passionate about his alma mater if he's pursued the job before and that counts for something. I don't know much about his personality but if he has charisma and an eye for cheap, effective coaching talent then that would differentiate him from Dorrell.
 
haha patience... get mad because you don't have a response after 12 minutes haha.

In regards to your question, I want someone who has been at the helm before, someone who has experience building a program, recruiting, coaching, hiring a staff
 
Wyovanian said:
Anyone know the last time we hired an HC from the same division we play in?
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Dennis Erickson came from Idaho which was Big Sky in 1985. Was that D-1 at the time ? I don't remember.
 
Only BCS programs hire coaches at the same level lol, Hell look where Peterson was before Boise!

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Look i'm not saying that Ted Gilmore is going to be the next coming but diamonds in the rough do exist. They went different routes, Peterson stays in the College level to become an OC and then HC. Gilmore stuck with receivers and went to the next level. Cross your fingers and hope he is our diamond in the rough, I know I am.
 
Idaho was Division 1AA (FCS) until 1995. Gilmore looks too much like Jon Embree to me and my feeling is that he wouldn't be a diamond in the rough..just a big lump o'coal..but just my 2 cents.
 
MileHighCowboy said:
Idaho was Division 1AA (FCS) until 1995. Gilmore looks too much like Jon Embree to me and my feeling is that he wouldn't be a diamond in the rough..just a big lump o'coal..but just my 2 cents.
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You could be right or wrong only time will tell.
 
MileHighCowboy said:
Idaho was Division 1AA (FCS) until 1995. Gilmore looks too much like Jon Embree to me and my feeling is that he wouldn't be a diamond in the rough..just a big lump o'coal..but just my 2 cents.
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Again, Embree was setting the ground work for CU to be successful. He had to come in and clean house, as well as clean out all of the off field issues. He never got a fair shot at CU, and deserved better than that. He very well could have been a good coach, but we will never know since they didn't give him a chance. Embree looked to be rebuilding CU in the same way of McCartney and that took about 5-6 years.
 
YankPoke said:
MileHighCowboy said:
Idaho was Division 1AA (FCS) until 1995. Gilmore looks too much like Jon Embree to me and my feeling is that he wouldn't be a diamond in the rough..just a big lump o'coal..but just my 2 cents.
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Again, Embree was setting the ground work for CU to be successful. He had to come in and clean house, as well as clean out all of the off field issues. He never got a fair shot at CU, and deserved better than that. He very well could have been a good coach, but we will never know since they didn't give him a chance. Embree looked to be rebuilding CU in the same way of McCartney and that took about 5-6 years.
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CU was in bad shape, Still is they got nothing by getting rid of him before he got a fair shake and turning the program around and it's still a complete disaster.
 
Wyo2dal said:
YankPoke said:
MileHighCowboy said:
Idaho was Division 1AA (FCS) until 1995. Gilmore looks too much like Jon Embree to me and my feeling is that he wouldn't be a diamond in the rough..just a big lump o'coal..but just my 2 cents.
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Again, Embree was setting the ground work for CU to be successful. He had to come in and clean house, as well as clean out all of the off field issues. He never got a fair shot at CU, and deserved better than that. He very well could have been a good coach, but we will never know since they didn't give him a chance. Embree looked to be rebuilding CU in the same way of McCartney and that took about 5-6 years.
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CU was in bad shape, Still is they got nothing by getting rid of him before he got a fair shake and turning the program around and it's still a complete disaster.
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This is the kind of insane logic that ruins programs. Embree was 1-11 in his second season with many of the losses by 40 or more points. Attendance fell to the lowest level in over 30 years. He didn't get a fair shake? Sonny Lubick took a 1-11 csewe team and got them to 5-6 his first year and a conference championship in his second year.

I don't understand this theory that coaches "deserve" 4 or 5 years to turn around a program. It's nonsense. McCartney's early teams had some bad records but they were at least losing close games. But I really doubt you see any successful coaches who start out 3-9 and 1-11.
Look at csewe under Mcelwain. A poor first year but 4 wins. This year, 7 wins. Csewe was coming off of 3 straight 3 win seasons.
If continued crappy records are allowed here to "build the program", then watch us finally fall to d2 status.
 
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