24-25 Roster

[OrediggerPoke]

How about Belic?

During his time at UC-Santa Barbara, he showed improvement. He went from 2 points a game and 18% from beyond the arc to 3.9 points a game and 26% last year.

Heck, he darn near doubled his production! Those are Caden Powell level numbers. What could go wrong?

Caden Powell doubled Belic’s numbers this past year. Powell averaged 5.5 pts a game, 4.5 rebounds per game and shot 49.1% from the field as compared to Belic’s 3.9 pts, 2.4 rebounds and 44% from the field.

 

[LawPoke]

Heck, he darn near doubled his production! Those are Caden Powell level numbers. What could go wrong?

Caden Powell doubled Belic’s numbers this past year. Powell averaged 5.5 pts a game, 4.5 rebounds per game and shot 49.1% from the field as compared to Belic’s 3.9 pts, 2.4 rebounds and 44% from the field.

So what you're saying is that Belic is no Caden Powell? That is saying a lot.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Caden Powell doubled Belic’s numbers this past year. Powell averaged 5.5 pts a game, 4.5 rebounds per game and shot 49.1% from the field as compared to Belic’s 3.9 pts, 2.4 rebounds and 44% from the field.

So what you're saying is that Belic is no Caden Powell? That is saying a lot.

Caden Powell also played in a much more difficult conference. The MWC was conference RPI #5 this past year. The traditional 1 bid Big West was conference RPI #20.

 

[McPeachy]

So what you're saying is that Belic is no Caden Powell? That is saying a lot.

Caden Powell also played in a much more difficult conference. The MWC was conference RPI #5 this past year. The traditional 1 bid Big West was conference RPI #20.

Sad thing is, I am not sure WYO basketball would be competitive in the Big West either (this past year, or next - you pick).

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Caden Powell also played in a much more difficult conference. The MWC was conference RPI #5 this past year. The traditional 1 bid Big West was conference RPI #20.

Sad thing is, I am not sure WYO basketball would be competitive in the Big West either (this past year, or next - you pick).

I think we would have been upper half in a bad Big West this past year. The way that next year's roster is shaping up on paper, we are looking more like a basement Big West team.

 

[McPeachy]

Sad thing is, I am not sure WYO basketball would be competitive in the Big West either (this past year, or next - you pick).

I think we would have been upper half in a bad Big West this past year. The way that next year's roster is shaping up on paper, we are looking more like a basement Big West team.

If that. How in the living hell can anyone at the AD look in the mirror at themselves right now, and justify internally what they have done or are doing?

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I think we would have been upper half in a bad Big West this past year. The way that next year's roster is shaping up on paper, we are looking more like a basement Big West team.

If that. How in the living hell can anyone at the AD look in the mirror at themselves right now, and justify internally what they have done or are doing?

I don’t know what Burman could realistically do at this point. He gave Linder an extension 2 years ago that makes it financially impossible to fire Linder for at least a year or two. It’s become relatively apparent at this point that few players want to play for Linder and any assistant coaches that can bail have already done so. Linder is laughing all the way to the bank with his salary and Yellowstone .gif collection.

And now that Linder is or has worn out his welcome - what serious donor wants to throw a bunch of NIL dollars at the program at this point? That money would likely only serve to benefit Linder and his ability to land the next job by achieving slightly better results than the current trajectory.

My honest assessment at this point is that this program will probably hit a worse depth than we ever did under Edwards or Schroyer.

As always - I hope I’m very wrong.

 

[307bball]

If that. How in the living hell can anyone at the AD look in the mirror at themselves right now, and justify internally what they have done or are doing?

I don’t know what Burman could realistically do at this point. He gave Linder an extension 2 years ago that makes it financially impossible to fire Linder for at least a year or two. It’s become relatively apparent at this point that few players want to play for Linder and any assistant coaches that can bail have already done so. Linder is laughing all the way to the bank with his salary and Yellowstone .gif collection.

And now that Linder is or has worn out his welcome - what serious donor wants to throw a bunch of NIL dollars at the program at this point? That money would likely only serve to benefit Linder and his ability to land the next job by achieving slightly better results than the current trajectory.

My honest assessment at this point is that this program will probably hit a worse depth than we ever did under Edwards or Schroyer.

As always - I hope I’m very wrong.

I've always felt like the administrations at UW was constrained in ways that most of us wagging tongues don't account for. When we look back at how we got to "here", regardless of where "here" is, we really can't say that there were obvious alternate decisions that we could have made that would have altered the "here" in a meaningfully positive way. As an example, the AA re-seating debacle is widely considered to have been handled poorly. The way those projects are funded and paid for had a lot to do with what came out the other end...it is not unlikely that the options were a poorly handled re-seating fiasco or no renovation at all. For the sake of discussion...what if there was a way for it to have gone well? In that alternate reality, does the effect of fans being happy with the renovation and re-seating negate the effects of the relaxation of transfer standards and NIL madness?

All this to say...it is entirely possible that Burman is terrible and the person in the AD chair really isn't what is driving athletic failures at UW....it's probably a lot of both. I love me some Wyoming athletics but I'm just really disillusioned with the realities of the last couple decades.

 

[Pokes fan 24-7]

I think we would have been upper half in a bad Big West this past year. The way that next year's roster is shaping up on paper, we are looking more like a basement Big West team.

If that. How in the living hell can anyone at the AD look in the mirror at themselves right now, and justify internally what they have done or are doing?

As long as the football team can consistently be bowl eligible Burman and the rest of the AD are safe. Not saying I agree, but that seems to be the standard.

 

[Bryoming]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1783932446460821818

 

[Poke in New England]

Seems like a good pickup. In his career he's a 50/36/70 shooter. Efficient player.

 

[TheRealUW]

Seems like a good pickup. In his career he's a 50/36/70 shooter. Efficient player.

Might be the best we can realistically hope for in a D1 transfer. I think he can contribute.

Out of curiosity, I was looking at what happened with the players that were named first team all-Summit league this past season. Five were eligible to transfer and four of them did. Landing schools were Kansas, UCLA, Michigan State, and Cal.

 

[LanderPoke]

Very nice pickup for us! Welcome to Wyoming

 

[LanderPoke]

Very nice pickup for us! Welcome to Wyoming

 

[Bryoming]

As it stands right now, we've got 6 outgoing transfers and 4 incoming. Kael Combs has yet to commit, and we don't know if Kenny Foster is returning or not. Here's what I'm thinking we're waiting on:

1. Hiring a new assistant. As we saw last year with the Williams hiring, a new assitant can bring recruits with them. Also works against you if they leave, though.
2. Signing a big. We desperately need interior help. We've got guards for days, but we need forwards/centers in the worst way.
3. Combs and Foster could still return, though I think it's doubtful on both fronts. I'm guessing that we'll see a signing within days of either announcing what they're doing.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

As it stands right now, we've got 6 outgoing transfers and 4 incoming. Kael Combs has yet to commit, and we don't know if Kenny Foster is returning or not. Here's what I'm thinking we're waiting on:

1. Hiring a new assistant. As we saw last year with the Williams hiring, a new assitant can bring recruits with them. Also works against you if they leave, though.
2. Signing a big. We desperately need interior help. We've got guards for days, but we need forwards/centers in the worst way.
3. Combs and Foster could still return, though I think it's doubtful on both fronts. I'm guessing that we'll see a signing within days of either announcing what they're doing.

Kenny Foster was removed from the roster on t he athletic website. I would kind of doubt they would do that if they thought he was returning.

 

[Bryoming]

As it stands right now, we've got 6 outgoing transfers and 4 incoming. Kael Combs has yet to commit, and we don't know if Kenny Foster is returning or not. Here's what I'm thinking we're waiting on:

1. Hiring a new assistant. As we saw last year with the Williams hiring, a new assitant can bring recruits with them. Also works against you if they leave, though.
2. Signing a big. We desperately need interior help. We've got guards for days, but we need forwards/centers in the worst way.
3. Combs and Foster could still return, though I think it's doubtful on both fronts. I'm guessing that we'll see a signing within days of either announcing what they're doing.

Kenny Foster was removed from the roster on t he athletic website. I would kind of doubt they would do that if they thought he was returning.

Good catch! Thanks!

 

[LawPoke]

Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. When the AD gets serious about rebuilding the program, call me.

1. Fire Linder
2. Hire a coach from outside a 100-mile radius of campus and that the current AD is not buddies with
a. Hire a coach that isn't a jackass
b. Hire a coach that players want to play for (other than Maldanado, he doesn't have any eligibility anyway)
c. Hire a coach that can woo donors to the collective
3. Fire Welniak and the other old, tarnished brass at CJC (including the Board) and find folks that are creative and innovative
4. Sell the naming rights, branding, etc. to anything on the athletic (and Main) campus that has value down to jock straps and sports bras - and invest any funds raised in player and coach comforts that can be sold to recruits

 

[TheRealUW]

Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. When the AD gets serious about rebuilding the program, call me.

1. Fire Linder
2. Hire a coach from outside a 100-mile radius of campus and that the current AD is not buddies with
a. Hire a coach that isn't a jackass
b. Hire a coach that players want to play for (other than Maldanado, he doesn't have any eligibility anyway)
c. Hire a coach that can woo donors to the collective
3. Fire Welniak and the other old, tarnished brass at CJC (including the Board) and find folks that are creative and innovative
4. Sell the naming rights, branding, etc. to anything on the athletic (and Main) campus that has value down to jock straps and sports bras - and invest any funds raised in player and coach comforts that can be sold to recruits

Not a bad plan, but criteria 2c would be the only thing that really matters. I'm not convinced there is a single person, living or dead, who could get that done at UW. We could hire Jesus for head coach and Coach K for assistant coach and still not get anywhere close to the top 50 in NIL donation dollars.

In my opinion, UW needs to play the long game. We cannot compete in the current version of NIL. Fortunately, change is very likely coming in the next 5-10 years. UW should focus all their time and money on positioning themselves well for whatever NIL 2.0 looks like.

 

[Pokes fan 24-7]

Hopefully Linder isn’t done adding through the portal…