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2014 QB Battle

Who starts at QB on opening day?

  • #11 Colby Kirkegaard RS-SR

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • #15 Nick Smith* FR

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • #14 T.J. Patterson RS-FR

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • #13 Tom Thorton SO

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • #12 Aaron Young SO

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • #16 Austin Fort* FR

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    39
fromolwyoming said:
mwc fan said:
Cowboy Junky said:
I voted for Aaron Young, but if Pete Thomas transfers here I'm changing my vote.

I just heard the Pete Thomas situation is going to happen, but wont be here until summer. I say Kirk until PT shows up. Young close behind Kirk.
If Thomas can earn the starting job with only Fall practice in, fine. But I'll still keep my reservations on his abilities until proven otherwise.

I am with you, IF the Pete Thomas rumor comes true (aka, I am not holding my breath on that one), but if it does come true, all bets are off. I think that we have to face it guys, there is NO Brett Smith amongst the returning QB's. We will have to realize this and I have a feeling that Bohl and Vigen will call the games accordingly, meaning a lot of handoff's this coming year with a smattering of throwing to begin the season. I unfortunately feel that no matter who wins the QB job amongst the returning guys, and yes this includes Thomas as well, there will be some differences from what we were used to seeing with Brett Smith. I am going to hold my tongue and not rip any of them and just see what develops. I still feel the future is in one of the two freshmen QB's coming in and whomever wins the QB job this coming year will be just keeping the seat warm until the freshman is ready to take over.
 
djm19 said:
Capt Kirk seems like a nice enough guy, but I have yet to see him throw a spiral. Every time I have seen him play, I thought how the hell did this guy get a scholarship at a D1 school. Keep in mind before anyone gets butthurt that this is my opinion basd solely on the few times I have seen him play. Pretty underwhelmed.

I think it is Young's to lose. According to Vorel, Young's velocity on the ball and such stands out compared to others.
I'm with you here. I appreciate that Kirk has stuck around through all of the turmoil, and he certainly has the mentality to do well in a coaching transition. I read an article the other day that said that he has had a different offensive coordinator every year since he was in 7th grade! However, the little that we've seen from him certainly doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Hopefully the problem was that he wasn't a good fit in our old system, but I think the bigger problem is that he isn't a D1 QB.

Young's backstory reminds me a lot of Brett's. Under recruited, chip on the shoulder, came in early for spring ball. I would think that he's the front runner right now just because he's here busting his ass with something to prove.

On a side note, I read today that Fort was in Laramie for spring break watching practice. I'm pretty sure that he can't participate in meetings yet because he's not enrolled, but just being around the team and seeing what they're doing has to be helping him.
 
I have no Idea but my vote is for Tom Thorton because......why not I guess. At least we will have a lot of options for the coaches to pick from...you have to think someone will step up. I think it would be awesome if Stratton could win it. Would make a great story.
 
I don't have a horse in the race, I just want whoever gives us the best chance to win. I personally then it'll be young with us moving to Smith eventually.
 
WYO1016 said:
djm19 said:
Capt Kirk seems like a nice enough guy, but I have yet to see him throw a spiral. Every time I have seen him play, I thought how the hell did this guy get a scholarship at a D1 school. Keep in mind before anyone gets butthurt that this is my opinion basd solely on the few times I have seen him play. Pretty underwhelmed.

I think it is Young's to lose. According to Vorel, Young's velocity on the ball and such stands out compared to others.
I'm with you here. I appreciate that Kirk has stuck around through all of the turmoil, and he certainly has the mentality to do well in a coaching transition. I read an article the other day that said that he has had a different offensive coordinator every year since he was in 7th grade! However, the little that we've seen from him certainly doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Hopefully the problem was that he wasn't a good fit in our old system, but I think the bigger problem is that he isn't a D1 QB.

Young's backstory reminds me a lot of Brett's. Under recruited, chip on the shoulder, came in early for spring ball. I would think that he's the front runner right now just because he's here busting his ass with something to prove.

On a side note, I read today that Fort was in Laramie for spring break watching practice. I'm pretty sure that he can't participate in meetings yet because he's not enrolled, but just being around the team and seeing what they're doing has to be helping him.


That was Thorton.
 
Austin Fort and Patterson have no votes. Therefore, considering WN's past of being horrible with Wyoming football-related predictions, one of them will win the starting job.
 
djm19 said:
I wouldn't mind seeing Nick Smith take #16. Just seems like a good fit.

I think it would be great to see Nick Smith take #16 as well.

I am more concerned with the short term than I am the long term. Has anyone heard anything more about Pete Thomas?

I am just not feeling comfortable with the QB situation. Coach Bohl even admitted that the QB position was a long way from where it needed to be. Coach Bohl has also said that there are three positions on a football team that you need to be really good at to be successful: QB, DT and CB. The last two positions I feel fairly comfortable with, I just feel that we need to develop depth. But the QB position has me really concerned. To me it seems right now that Colby isn't making the mistakes that others are and that is what puts him ahead, but I don't feel that he is making the type of exceptional plays that are needed to be really successful. Sam is a heck of a player, very enthusiastic but not horribly experienced and probably doesn't have the quicks that he once did due to his knee injury but he is a leader. I am finding it almost funny to see Aaron struggle since he came in bragging so much about how this offense fits him so well and he is a quick learned, etc. Maybe there is a bigger difference between JC ball and FBS ball?????

When the freshmen come in it will be difficult on them because the offense is so complicated but maybe a Pete Thomas could come in and help us be mildly successful while these young guys learn.

I just want the same thing that all of you people want and the coaching staff and the players want and that is for the best person to start at QB that will give us the best opportunity of winning next season.
 
PotatoCreekPete said:
djm19 said:
I wouldn't mind seeing Nick Smith take #16. Just seems like a good fit.

I think it would be great to see Nick Smith take #16 as well.

I am more concerned with the short term than I am the long term. Has anyone heard anything more about Pete Thomas?

I am just not feeling comfortable with the QB situation. Coach Bohl even admitted that the QB position was a long way from where it needed to be. Coach Bohl has also said that there are three positions on a football team that you need to be really good at to be successful: QB, DT and CB. The last two positions I feel fairly comfortable with, I just feel that we need to develop depth. But the QB position has me really concerned. To me it seems right now that Colby isn't making the mistakes that others are and that is what puts him ahead, but I don't feel that he is making the type of exceptional plays that are needed to be really successful. Sam is a heck of a player, very enthusiastic but not horribly experienced and probably doesn't have the quicks that he once did due to his knee injury but he is a leader. I am finding it almost funny to see Aaron struggle since he came in bragging so much about how this offense fits him so well and he is a quick learned, etc. Maybe there is a bigger difference between JC ball and FBS ball?????

When the freshmen come in it will be difficult on them because the offense is so complicated but maybe a Pete Thomas could come in and help us be mildly successful while these young guys learn.

I just want the same thing that all of you people want and the coaching staff and the players want and that is for the best person to start at QB that will give us the best opportunity of winning next season.
And what, over Pete Thomas' lackluster career at 2 different schools, puts him as an automatic starter? Experience? That don't mean crap if you can't put up the numbers and get the wins. He wasn't even the real starter at NCSU. He was the backup that got thrown to the wolves for several games when the real starter was injured. In Fort Collins, we trounced him. Remember 44-0? And that was with a defense comparable to this last season's defense.

I don't have anything personal against the kid, but thinking that just because he has experience he'll somehow make us good is naive at best. His track record over his career is not exactly mind blowing, unless its by his lack of success.
 
If it's Captain Kirk or Sam, I give Fort or particularly Smith a big-time shot at starting against Montana
 
I'm pulling for Stratton! What a great story that would be and talk about a deserving player!

I was basically laughed at when I suggested that Stratton would be a great candidate next year after it was announced Jason Thompson was leaving. Let's face it, we have seen Kirkegaard's skill set and he is not the answer IMO.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
I'm pulling for Stratton! What a great story that would be and talk about a deserving player!

I was basically laughed at when I suggested that Stratton would be a great candidate next year after it was announced Jason Thompson was leaving. Let's face it, we have seen Kirkegaard's skill set and he is not the answer IMO.
I wonder if Kirkgaard was put in a position to succeed with DC. We all know DC likes his guys and both Smith and Thompson were getting most if not all reps up until the time Colby was forced into action....even if we was labeled the 2nd team guy.

He may be better than we think with proper coaching....but I think the entire team will be better with better coaching.
 
fromolwyoming said:
PotatoCreekPete said:
djm19 said:
I wouldn't mind seeing Nick Smith take #16. Just seems like a good fit.

I think it would be great to see Nick Smith take #16 as well.

I am more concerned with the short term than I am the long term. Has anyone heard anything more about Pete Thomas?

I am just not feeling comfortable with the QB situation. Coach Bohl even admitted that the QB position was a long way from where it needed to be. Coach Bohl has also said that there are three positions on a football team that you need to be really good at to be successful: QB, DT and CB. The last two positions I feel fairly comfortable with, I just feel that we need to develop depth. But the QB position has me really concerned. To me it seems right now that Colby isn't making the mistakes that others are and that is what puts him ahead, but I don't feel that he is making the type of exceptional plays that are needed to be really successful. Sam is a heck of a player, very enthusiastic but not horribly experienced and probably doesn't have the quicks that he once did due to his knee injury but he is a leader. I am finding it almost funny to see Aaron struggle since he came in bragging so much about how this offense fits him so well and he is a quick learned, etc. Maybe there is a bigger difference between JC ball and FBS ball?????

When the freshmen come in it will be difficult on them because the offense is so complicated but maybe a Pete Thomas could come in and help us be mildly successful while these young guys learn.

I just want the same thing that all of you people want and the coaching staff and the players want and that is for the best person to start at QB that will give us the best opportunity of winning next season.
And what, over Pete Thomas' lackluster career at 2 different schools, puts him as an automatic starter? Experience? That don't mean crap if you can't put up the numbers and get the wins. He wasn't even the real starter at NCSU. He was the backup that got thrown to the wolves for several games when the real starter was injured. In Fort Collins, we trounced him. Remember 44-0? And that was with a defense comparable to this last season's defense.

I don't have anything personal against the kid, but thinking that just because he has experience he'll somehow make us good is naive at best. His track record over his career is not exactly mind blowing, unless its by his lack of success.

Guys can sometimes blossom with a different coaching situation. At least Pete Thomas has won a QB battle at a FBS level that is more than any of the QB's now at Wyoming have done. Yes, Pete Thomas did win a QB battle and that was coming out of Spring Ball at NCSU. Colby has NEVER won a QB battle at a FBS level school and nor has he even won a game at a FBS level and has only started one with poor results. Sam has NEVER even won a QB battle in college and never started a game at QB at the FBS level and he has been here for years now! So when you start cutting Pete Thomas down, you should know that NONE of the QB's now competing at UW have even come close to what he has done. All of the arguments that you used against Pete Thomas can be used against EVERY QB now at UW several times over. I don't really have a dog in this fight, so to speak, but when you tear down Thomas but ignore the QB's now at UW I find that a wee bit too difficult to swallow without pointing out the hypocrisy.

My take that the QB's with the most talent will be coming in as freshmen this coming year, but I would think it would be a stretch to expect them to be ready to start the season as the starting QB. Who knows but one of them (Fort or Smith) might be able to win the position during the season but that seems like a long shot as well. Despite the fact that Sam is a hell of a guy and a great teammate I just find it difficult to think that he would be the best choice to start at QB for Wyoming next season. I think that there are some on here that are thinking with their hearts when it comes to Sam more than their minds....a little too sentimental. Colby is the most experienced of the QB's fighting it out now but does he truly have the ability to lead Wyoming to a successful season next year? Sorry but his few short stints on the field over the last 3 years don't give me much confidence. Maybe Coach Bohl and Vigen have something in mind to upgrade the QB position before next season that we don't know about?
 
We 'be had two kids start as freshman in the last 5 years. I don't see it as that far fetched. I'm rooting for Sam. I just wonder if they're seeing what they want from them or they're just leaders by default. Smith in particular is protypical west coast QB. All he's gotta do is make 20 throws a game and hand the bowl off to DJ and Shaun. I just wouldn't right it off so easily.
 

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