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2014 draft: Brett Smith

J-Rod said:
BeaverPoke said:
I want to see Brett Smith have a record breaking year, then do it again while beating Michigan State and Oregon in the same season. I want Brett Smiths records to be like double anything anyone else has done.
I want all my student loans to go away and start pooping money every time I go to the bathroom. I also want a lifetime pass at Taco Bell, not just for the food, but because I'll be shitting a lot of money out.

I also want B-Smith to get drafted by the Broncos after Peyton lead Denver to back to back SuperBowls, then I want to see Brett Smith win 5 Super Bowls.

And I want BYU to drop down to FCS football.
And Wyo to get invited to the Big12.
And Oregon to get a 2 year bowl ban.
And Wyo to get D1 baseball.

What else?
 
BeaverPoke said:
I also want B-Smith to get drafted by the Broncos after Peyton lead Denver to back to back SuperBowls, then I want to see Brett Smith win 5 Super Bowls.

And I want BYU to drop down to FCS football.
And Wyo to get invited to the Big12.
And Oregon to get a 2 year bowl ban.
And Wyo to get D1 baseball.

What else?
Whoa whoa whoa.....you actually listed something that might happen and is realistic!
 
BeaverPoke said:
I don't know if you are saying because those guys went to WYO they are drafted lower, but none of those guys NFL career says they should be Top 3 round picks. Not like they were looked over.
It's not that Wyo players get looked over, it's that we haven't had a Wyo player with the quality of Brett Smith since maybe Malcolm Floyd, who apparently got better after he left Laramie.

Every season during the college season there is this "list of NFL prospects" then after the NFL season ends when the scouts start really scouting these kids in pro days, combines, individual workouts, etc., there is this whole new list with QBs moved up a lot.
During Cam Newtons SR season he was around 30-32 overall, then after the season shot up to #1 on everyone's big board after some time.

If Smith goes back to the Manning Camp and they see how he practices and plays and breaks down D's, they will judge his talent more than just MWC stats.

That is exactly what I'm saying you will not have high draft stock playing for Wyoming when we can't win games if you think I'm wrong just look at the previous years players that were and were not drafted.
 
J-Rod said:
BeaverPoke said:
I also want B-Smith to get drafted by the Broncos after Peyton lead Denver to back to back SuperBowls, then I want to see Brett Smith win 5 Super Bowls.

And I want BYU to drop down to FCS football.
And Wyo to get invited to the Big12.
And Oregon to get a 2 year bowl ban.
And Wyo to get D1 baseball.

What else?
Whoa whoa whoa.....you actually listed something that might happen and is realistic!

Anywhere but the Denver Donkeys please not the donkeys!
 
Wyo2dal said:
Better than Denver, I'd prefer he replace Romo personally.
As much as I dislike Jerry, offensively that's the best-case scenario for Brett. That offense would be dominant if Romo weren't around.
 
J-Rod said:
Wyo2dal said:
Better than Denver, I'd prefer he replace Romo personally.
As much as I dislike Jerry, offensively that's the best-case scenario for Brett. That offense would be dominant if Romo weren't around.
To be fair, you could do worse than Romo (over 4000 passing yards last season).
 
fromolwyoming said:
J-Rod said:
Wyo2dal said:
Better than Denver, I'd prefer he replace Romo personally.
As much as I dislike Jerry, offensively that's the best-case scenario for Brett. That offense would be dominant if Romo weren't around.
To be fair, you could do worse than Romo (over 4000 passing yards last season).

I agree but he can't win in the Month of November which is an important month to win in and that comes down to horrible judgement calls which he seems to unleash in November for some dumb reason.
 
Wyoirish said:
Interesting topic and opinions, all of them. I have been fairly accurate in my predictions so far when it comes to all things BSmith related, so here is my take, FWIW, and Id agree with J-Rod in regards to point #1. If he continues to improve and has a really good year Id say Poke fans should be ready for anything.

Here is what scouts and prognosticators know right now about our QB1:

1) He is fearless and is exceptional in the pocket with his feel for pressure when compared to other draft eligible QBs
2) His mobility is exceptional when compared to draft eligible QBs
3) He has been highly productive for two straight consecutive years
4) He is and will be a team captain for two straight years (leadership)
5) He has a good arm and can make the throws on a consistent basis as demonstrated by his career 62% comp pct.
6) He is tough and is a fierce competitor
7) He is very dangerous and at his best when on the move or having to keep a play alive
8) He generally makes good decisions with the ball (high TD to INT ratio)
9) An extremely high character guy who wont fail drug tests or embarrass the team in the community
10) He plays with tremendous desire but has to dial down and have better composure in the heat of battle

What these same guys don't know but will soon enough:

1) He will put up 225 at a pro day or combine 20-25 times. Most QB's wont even attempt this test as the result would only
hurt their draft stock. The highest # of reps in the past three years at the combine was 15 by a QB.
2) He has already been clocked at under 4.60, but will run a 4.50-59 range 40-yd sprint
3) He will run a sub 4.00 shuttle, clean 330, broad jump 10'5 (Andrew Luck and Geno Smith both came in at 10'3 in 2012
and 2013 to lead all QBs) and will squat at least 450-500 pds
4) He has added about 15 pounds of muscle to his frame from last season while he has gotten faster and will continue to
add weight each season.

This is elite level stuff for a QB. In a combine type setting is where BSmith will climb up draft boards and pass more hyped up guys from the bigger schools. Happens every year and I see this happening with BSmith. Speed and strength of a guy remains the same whether it is in the SEC or Mountain West. A bold statement but Id be willing to put the overall athleticism of this QB against any of these hyped up QBs as Id bet none of them can match him in that regard. BSmith was the only top 20 ranked QB in the country, that didn't make it to a bowl game in 2012. That is pretty telling.

On average, 12-14 QB's get drafted every year. This past year was considered a down year when only 8 QB's were selected. There are still a lot of teams that have immediate QB needs to fulfill and a number of teams that will be thinking QB with aging QB's at the helm in the '14 draft. This year is considered a much better year for QB's than last year. Some experts are predicting that there could be as many as 5 1st round QB selections in next years draft. It might explain why so many teams elected to go the stopgap approach or to free agency for their QB (Palmer, Kolb, Flynn, ASmith) rather than to the commitment and overall investment of drafting a QB when the value isn't necessarily there.

Scouts speak to enough people to know what and who is out there and people are kidding themselves if they think that they aren't talking about BSmith as a potential early to mid round pick as early as next year with another highly productive season. Smith would be foolish not to consider a jump to the NFL if he is graded as one of the top 8 QB's in the country of draft eligible QB's, and guys, whether you wish to believe it or not, this is well within the realm of possibility. He won't fit every NFL system but I could see a scenario where a team like SanDiego, Houston or Dallas drafts him to develop to possibly take over in 3-4 years. One could argue that quality athletic QB play is exactly what these 3 particular teams are missing and keeping them from taking that next step to upper level echelon NFL teams.

This is a lot of good info, and as you know him, I believe it to be true. But with your statement " BSmith was the only top 20 ranked QB in the country, that didn't make it to a bowl game in 2012." , it seems you sort of lost the plot. Saying your team didn't make a bowl game, but you did well, isn't the same as a 20 game winner on a last place team winning the Cy Young Award. A 20 game winner shows leadership and the ability to win, while they are actually playing. A QB touches the ball almost every single play of every game, so not winning is not a good thing. This is probably Brett's biggest downfall, if the team doesn't start winning. I imagine that the NFL teams will want to draft QBs from winning programs, not from losing programs. For Brett's sake and ours as fans, I hope we become a winning program.

Having said that, if Brett is in a position to get drafted after this season, he should go for it. Hate to lose him, but you have to go for it if the opportunity arises. Plus with our play calling and O-line, he should be in a bit of a hurry to play where you get paid. I have a bad feeling that this season play calling will be too much "Brett throw the ball and if no one is open, take off". Without an attempt at a running game, he'll be getting blitzed and questionably late hit during runs, all season. This season could be spectacular for him or real ugly. I wish him the best...
 
Wyo2dal said:
I agree but he can't win in the Month of November which is an important month to win in and that comes down to horrible judgement calls which he seems to unleash in November for some dumb reason.

What????

Romo is 21-4 since 2006 in November.
He is one of the best in November.

And his stats are always better in November.

Don't know where you heard he can't win in November.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Wyo2dal said:
I agree but he can't win in the Month of November which is an important month to win in and that comes down to horrible judgement calls which he seems to unleash in November for some dumb reason.

What????

Romo is 21-4 since 2006 in November.
He is one of the best in November.

And his stats are always better in November.

Don't know where you heard he can't win in November.

I think Wyo2dal got his months wrong. Romo can't do Decembers, not Novembers. :roll:

And while we're on the subject, the NFL should make a rule that bans owners from also being the general managers of their franchises. Jerry Jones is ultra horrible at it. A Fort Fart grad could do a better job.
 
I have no problems with it. Because Al Davis did it for the Raiders for years and they still suck because of it.
Jerry Jones thinks he knows what he is doing but has been out of touch for a while.

Romo has good QB numbers, but continues to struggle.
Is he a "decent" QB in a good system?
Is he a good QB that stuggles in clutch situations?
Is he unlucky?

Anyways, it seems that Jones likes Romo quite a bit and he should be there for a while.
Meanwhile Smith to the Broncos!
 
Must have been December. Romo is 11-16 in December. Lol that is pretty bad.

That must be rough to be a Dallas fan. Decent/good football first half of the season, pretty good ball in November to look like they are going to make a push, then a collapse in December.
Funny how Dallas seems to be one of the Super Bowl favorites at the beginning of the season EVERY year, then they are never a real threat, ever. Talk about being over hyped.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Wyo2dal said:
I agree but he can't win in the Month of November which is an important month to win in and that comes down to horrible judgement calls which he seems to unleash in November for some dumb reason.

What????

Romo is 21-4 since 2006 in November.
He is one of the best in November.

And his stats are always better in November.

Don't know where you heard he can't win in November.

December is what I meant calm down Beaver.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I have no problems with it. Because Al Davis did it for the Raiders for years and they still suck because of it.
Jerry Jones thinks he knows what he is doing but has been out of touch for a while.

Romo has good QB numbers, but continues to struggle.
Is he a "decent" QB in a good system?
Is he a good QB that stuggles in clutch situations?
Is he unlucky?

Anyways, it seems that Jones likes Romo quite a bit and he should be there for a while.
Meanwhile Smith to the Broncos!

No not the Broncos, How about to somewhere else we can agree on.
 
Wyo2dal said:
BeaverPoke said:
Wyo2dal said:
I agree but he can't win in the Month of November which is an important month to win in and that comes down to horrible judgement calls which he seems to unleash in November for some dumb reason.

What????

Romo is 21-4 since 2006 in November.
He is one of the best in November.

And his stats are always better in November.

Don't know where you heard he can't win in November.

December is what I meant calm down Beaver.

I thought that was the case.
 
Wyo2dal said:
BeaverPoke said:
I have no problems with it. Because Al Davis did it for the Raiders for years and they still suck because of it.
Jerry Jones thinks he knows what he is doing but has been out of touch for a while.

Romo has good QB numbers, but continues to struggle.
Is he a "decent" QB in a good system?
Is he a good QB that stuggles in clutch situations?
Is he unlucky?

Anyways, it seems that Jones likes Romo quite a bit and he should be there for a while.
Meanwhile Smith to the Broncos!

No not the Broncos, How about to somewhere else we can agree on.
Packers after Rodgers goes undefeated to win the SB and MVP 2 years in a row, Smith signs on, learns the ropes, and Rodgers retires and Smith leads the Packers to a new Golden Age?
 
fromolwyoming said:
Wyo2dal said:
BeaverPoke said:
I have no problems with it. Because Al Davis did it for the Raiders for years and they still suck because of it.
Jerry Jones thinks he knows what he is doing but has been out of touch for a while.

Romo has good QB numbers, but continues to struggle.
Is he a "decent" QB in a good system?
Is he a good QB that stuggles in clutch situations?
Is he unlucky?

Anyways, it seems that Jones likes Romo quite a bit and he should be there for a while.
Meanwhile Smith to the Broncos!

No not the Broncos, How about to somewhere else we can agree on.
Packers after Rodgers goes undefeated to win the SB and MVP 2 years in a row, Smith signs on, learns the ropes, and Rodgers retires and Smith leads the Packers to a new Golden Age?

Oh gawd not the Packers! How about Seattle?
 

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