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2 games in. What do you think so far?

What do you guys think about the switch to the 4-3 defense and the west coast offense?

  • I like the switch to both a lot!

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • I like the switch for the defense a lot, but not as much for the offense.

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • I like the switch for the offense a lot, but not as much for the defense.

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • I kind of like the switch for both.

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • I don't like the switch for both.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't like the switch for the offense, but I do the defense.

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • I don't like the switch for the defense, but I do the offense.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    20

fromolwyoming

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Me, I'm liking the change to the 4-3, especially since the guys we've had on the team the last few years are more built for the 4-3 over the 3-4. That has helped. The offense, the staff is still incorporating a lot of the spread into it, since that's what the o-linemen we have were recruited for, and we have an overabundance of receivers. But they are incorporating the west coast feel into the offense. The power run game didn't work well against Air Force because the refused to take defenders out of the box (I think they had no fewer than 8 at a time throughout the game), and they paid for it through the air. So, I am liking the power run offense, but it will need time before we see the production that say, SDSU has (a FBS school that runs a similar offense) with their ground and pound game.
 
I like the defense and I like wins. But I am just not a fan of low scores by our offense. If we can get it to where NDSU was and is I will be happy.
 
Defense is much improved. I like the offenses approach, with time it will be very good. Still...winning games 17-13 won't last against better opponents. This team is not built to play from behind.

It's good to be 2-0, but I won't make any declarations just yet. We've been here before, only to see injuries/circumstances derail a good thing. Surviving Oregon/Michigan State without losing positive morale and key players will be important. Still think anything from 4-8 to 7-5 is possible.
 
D is better. Fundamentals, scheme or both? Either way like it.

Jury is still out for O. Not overly impressive but not really expected to be. O will take some time to fully develop so tough to say much at this point.

Both units are at minimum satisfactory for a craptastic MWC.
 
I think the offense will be more impressive after he gets the players to fit his scheme. It takes a few years to get the depth needed.

Defensively it is difficult to measure where we are at. We looked like world beaters last year after our first two wins. If I recall we had back to back weeks as defensive players of the week as well.

From what I see I like the changes. If Brett or Jason Thompson came back, I think we put more points on the board and are very happy with changes.
 
pokefanchaz7 said:
I think the offense will be more impressive after he gets the players to fit his scheme. It takes a few years to get the depth needed.

Defensively it is difficult to measure where we are at. We looked like world beaters last year after our first two wins. If I recall we had back to back weeks as defensive players of the week as well.

From what I see I like the changes. If Brett or Jason Thompson came back, I think we put more points on the board and are very happy with changes.
Last year though on defense, we still had the "bend, give up tons of yards on the ground and through the air and pray to God that we somehow get a stop". This year though, at least against more comparable talent, our rush defense has been pretty damn good. Limiting both Air Force and Montana (both high powered rushing teams) to about 2 yards a carry. Air Force may have had 150 yards rushing, but that was on 52 rushing attempts. So our rush defense is day and night better than last year.
 
It's hard to really say, those first two opponents were pretty weak in my opinion, but it does appear that the D has improved somewhat. The rush D has been stellar so far, but I think we are weak in the secondary though and if we can't put pressure on the qb like we did vs Montana and play a pass-first team unlike AF, it could really show. Unfortunately, we will either be playing poor teams or be incredibly overmatched that we might never know how good our D truly is until conference play.

I'm still quite worried about offense. Kirkegaard had such a good 4th quarter that I'm not wanting him to be benched anymore, but I still don't think he's that good. As long as he doesn't turn it over he won't be awful, and hopefully his confidence has shot up so that he can consistently make plays, but only putting up 17 points in each of two home games against Montana and AF doesn't inspire confidence in me. Unfortunately I think the Oregon game could be quite frustrating for him and that high that he was on at the end of the AF game could easily get shot and we could be starting from the beginning with him next week. The rest of the offensive personnel looks ok though, so again I'm not sure what to expect.
 
So I decided to do a little research, and I'm starting to realize why you guys are concerned about 17 pts being enough to win. It hasn't happened around Poke Country very often.

Last time Wyo scored 17 or less in a win: 11/27/09 vs CSU
Last time scored 17 or less in back-to-back wins: 10/2-9/71
 
As long as the D can keep holding opposing teams to low scores I'm fine with it, I don't care what we win by. However the game isn't nearly as exciting since broken runs are far and few between broken passes or a scrambling QB.
 
Wyo2dal said:
As long as the D can keep holding opposing teams to low scores I'm fine with it, I don't care what we win by. However the game isn't nearly as exciting since broken runs are far and few between broken passes or a scrambling QB.
In our seven losses last year, we averaged under 21 ppg. So really, not much different from now other than the defense actually stopping people.

I'm not sure I've seen a bigger difference before ppg in wins (46.0 ppg) and losses (20.7) in one season than the 2013 Cowboys.
 
joshvanklomp said:
Wyo2dal said:
As long as the D can keep holding opposing teams to low scores I'm fine with it, I don't care what we win by. However the game isn't nearly as exciting since broken runs are far and few between broken passes or a scrambling QB.
In our seven losses last year, we averaged under 21 ppg. So really, not much different from now other than the defense actually stopping people.

I'm not sure I've seen a bigger difference before ppg in wins (46.0 ppg) and losses (20.7) in one season than the 2013 Cowboys.
We either did really well (like against Air Force) or could do almost nothing (like for 6 games). A lot of that was on DC, because he never made adjustments, never developed players, and didn't care much about the defense.
 
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