nightmare scenario....

[Hotkarl]

Vic actually had some close games against some top 25 times. I think almost beat byu his last yr. Mb beat a ranked AF team. Seemed liked he had a bunch of 1 score games.

 

[jwy_poke]

I don’t know where you obtained Sagarin rankings from 2000-2002. I couldn’t locate.

I did locate some composite computer rankings for Wyoming that shows Koenning and Sawvel teams were remarkably close (both bad teams) with a slight edge to Koenning’s teams (despite the W/L Koenning record being worse).

Composite Wyoming FBS Ranks:
2000 - 103
2001 - 100
2002 - 95
2024 - 104
2025 - 102
2026 - 107 (in progress)

Koenning Average — 99.3
Sawvel Average - 104.3

I note that there are more FBS teams now than 2000, so the difference of 5 might be a wash when figuring in the larger amount of teams.

Koenig teams couldn't stop anyone on defense with a fairly potent offense. Sawful just the opposite.

 

[307bball]

I don’t know where you obtained Sagarin rankings from 2000-2002. I couldn’t locate.

I did locate some composite computer rankings for Wyoming that shows Koenning and Sawvel teams were remarkably close (both bad teams) with a slight edge to Koenning’s teams (despite the W/L Koenning record being worse).

Composite Wyoming FBS Ranks:
2000 - 103
2001 - 100
2002 - 95
2024 - 104
2025 - 102
2026 - 107 (in progress)

Koenning Average — 99.3
Sawvel Average - 104.3

I note that there are more FBS teams now than 2000, so the difference of 5 might be a wash when figuring in the larger amount of teams.

Yep..very bad teams.

the historic Sagarin Rankings are gettable in the waybackmachine since USAtoday used to host the archive. That is where those numbers came from. Here is a link for 2000 but you can get 1998 through 2019 through the link (it's kind of slow):

https://web.archive.org/web/20210729091127/https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2019-2/2000-2/college-football-team-ratings-2000/

SRS ratings is pretty much in line....we are living through a very low point in Wyoming football...again. Sawvell and Koenning feel about the same to me. Unless Wyoming truly has something figured out and finishes the season hot, I suspect his and Koenning's run's to be remarkably similar.

 

[laxwyo]

In fairness, if Vic played this schedule, we might have been a bowl team.

Two darkest times of Wyoming football during my lifetime:
1) Koenning years
2) Sawvel first 2 years

Didn’t Sawful win more games his first 2 years than Bohl? Thought Bohl won 6 and Sawful has won 7

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Didn’t Sawful win more games his first 2 years than Bohl? Thought Bohl won 6 and Sawful has won 7

I believe that’s correct. Very different circumstances and we expected struggles with Bohl’s rebuilding of the program. We did not expect Sawvel to tank the program like he did in one offseason.

Bohl inherited an empty cupboard of players recruited for a spread system. Sawvel was a returning staff member and returned damn near the entire team that went 9-4 the year before.