Bohl set the offense up for this failure

[PorkerPoke]

Despite having one of the better prolonged runs of mostly .500 or better seasons, Craig Bohl was incredibly stubborn when it came to building a truly stout offense capable of controlling games and scoring points. The offense that he ran was supposed to be a smash mouth run oriented time controlling unit. The problem was that his offense could not overwhelm strong opponents very often hence his 25% win rate against teams that finished the season with winning records. He was quite successful against marginal competition - especially on the home turf which enabled him to to produce 61 wins and 60 losses and a 37-41 MWC record.

The element he never had very often was a QB with the ability to pass the ball effectively. When it was obvious he needed a better QB he really didn't pursue the best that he possibly could instead preferring to target QB's more the size of a LB or TE.

He did find that diamond in the rough Josh Allen and benefitted greatly those two years. He did get Sean Chambers who was a complete gamer until he suffered through injuries. Everyone else has been for the most part mediocre to below satisfactory.

What leads up to 2024 started in 2021 with such a controversy over Chambers and Williams and his attitude in an ever changing college football era when he lost a number of talented players. Fortunately he was able to land the QB that was a former starter at Utah State who decided to leave USU after being relegated to 3rd string on a team that was winning the MWC with his replacement. The QB from USU ended up being the most productive QB since 2019 when Chambers was the QB and had Wyoming on a 6-2 roll until the fateful injury against Nevada.

2020 was a wasted year and with the 2021 season came the QB controversy where Chambers while putting up moderate passing numbers was struggling to get Wyoming to 4-3 before being benched after the 3 dismal performances of 17 points in 3 games and very poor passing which included Svoboda like INT's for TD's.

After the Potato Bowl in 2021 the exodus began and Wyoming found itself without an experienced QB. All Bohl had going into the 2022 season was Clemons, Svoboda and Becker if it were not for Peasley. This was after Bohl put out his infamous national QB search tweet knowing full well he was already going with Svoboda as his prime target.

Peasley saved the day for Bohl or things could have become ugly very quickly as going into 2023 the QB stable had Svoboda, Becker, Anderson (with a healing knee unable to play) and the Iowa transfer nobody wanted Carson May.

Where are we at now in 2024?

Starter - Svoboda who is the #116 rated QB in FBS and has never finished a college season with a rating of 100 or higher with more INT's than TD's.

2nd String - Anderson who had a very stout high school experience as the heir to the starting position behind Ewers who is at Texas. The big question is how long will his knee last - let alone is this staff too stubborn to give him any consideration.

3rd String - Batiste. We know nothing about the guy other than he is from Texas and considered a decent prospect.

Caden Becker was a project as a QB and is gone. Carson May - why? Clemons was nothing spectacular and who cares if he was a Utah walk on who came to Wyoming. He is gone anyway. What about the walk-ons like the former baseball pitcher who never saw the light of day and didn't develop into the next Allen.

Svoboda has been written up by the UW Sports Propaganda Staff as the next Allen and sports #17. This is no knock to the person as an individual. It is only an analysis that with his 4th string freshman stint at Snow, his redshirt developmental year at Wyoming, his third season in mop up duty and now his 4th college season as the bottom rated QB in FBS Division 1 was put in place by no less than Craig Bohl who insisted on "developing" the critical position of QB instead of recruiting ready to perform players.

Sawvel is just going with it for whatever reason which is a whole other subject.

 

[NorthWestCowboy]

Despite having one of the better prolonged runs of mostly .500 or better seasons, Craig Bohl was incredibly stubborn when it came to building a truly stout offense capable of controlling games and scoring points. The offense that he ran was supposed to be a smash mouth run oriented time controlling unit. The problem was that his offense could not overwhelm strong opponents very often hence his 25% win rate against teams that finished the season with winning records. He was quite successful against marginal competition - especially on the home turf which enabled him to to produce 61 wins and 60 losses and a 37-41 MWC record.

The element he never had very often was a QB with the ability to pass the ball effectively. When it was obvious he needed a better QB he really didn't pursue the best that he possibly could instead preferring to target QB's more the size of a LB or TE.

He did find that diamond in the rough Josh Allen and benefitted greatly those two years. He did get Sean Chambers who was a complete gamer until he suffered through injuries. Everyone else has been for the most part mediocre to below satisfactory.

What leads up to 2024 started in 2021 with such a controversy over Chambers and Williams and his attitude in an ever changing college football era when he lost a number of talented players. Fortunately he was able to land the QB that was a former starter at Utah State who decided to leave USU after being relegated to 3rd string on a team that was winning the MWC with his replacement. The QB from USU ended up being the most productive QB since 2019 when Chambers was the QB and had Wyoming on a 6-2 roll until the fateful injury against Nevada.

2020 was a wasted year and with the 2021 season came the QB controversy where Chambers while putting up moderate passing numbers was struggling to get Wyoming to 4-3 before being benched after the 3 dismal performances of 17 points in 3 games and very poor passing which included Svoboda like INT's for TD's.

After the Potato Bowl in 2021 the exodus began and Wyoming found itself without an experienced QB. All Bohl had going into the 2022 season was Clemons, Svoboda and Becker if it were not for Peasley. This was after Bohl put out his infamous national QB search tweet knowing full well he was already going with Svoboda as his prime target.

Peasley saved the day for Bohl or things could have become ugly very quickly as going into 2023 the QB stable had Svoboda, Becker, Anderson (with a healing knee unable to play) and the Iowa transfer nobody wanted Carson May.

Where are we at now in 2024?

Starter - Svoboda who is the #116 rated QB in FBS and has never finished a college season with a rating of 100 or higher with more INT's than TD's.

2nd String - Anderson who had a very stout high school experience as the heir to the starting position behind Ewers who is at Texas. The big question is how long will his knee last - let alone is this staff too stubborn to give him any consideration.

3rd String - Batiste. We know nothing about the guy other than he is from Texas and considered a decent prospect.

Caden Becker was a project as a QB and is gone. Carson May - why? Clemons was nothing spectacular and who cares if he was a Utah walk on who came to Wyoming. He is gone anyway. What about the walk-ons like the former baseball pitcher who never saw the light of day and didn't develop into the next Allen.

Svoboda has been written up by the UW Sports Propaganda Staff as the next Allen and sports #17. This is no knock to the person as an individual. It is only an analysis that with his 4th string freshman stint at Snow, his redshirt developmental year at Wyoming, his third season in mop up duty and now his 4th college season as the bottom rated QB in FBS Division 1 was put in place by no less than Craig Bohl who insisted on "developing" the critical position of QB instead of recruiting ready to perform players.

Sawvel is just going with it for whatever reason which is a whole other subject.

I agree with much of this but the one thing that so many, including this post seem to completely ignore is that along with poor passing QB's there has been a complete and total absence of starting caliber WR/TE's at Wyoming since 2016 (Gentry, Mulhardt and Hollister). Just look at Josh Allen's second season as a starter. Allen's passing yards went from 3200 in 2016 to 1800 in 2017 with a huge drop off in WR/TE talent. I can think of only one WR with any skill since 2016 and that was Isaih Neyor who understandably bolted the program at his first chance. No WR or QB worth their salt have any interest in Wyoming which is shocking since Bohl could have easily touted his recruiting and development of Carson Wentz and Josh Allen. How Bohl didn't turn these two NFL QB's into a recruiting advantage boggles the mind! Other than Neyor I don't think there has been a single WR starter at UW since 2016 that could be considered a legitimate FBS starter. With the possible exception of Gyllenborg UW continues to field a WR/TE corp that would be nothing more than depth chart players at any other MWC program.

 

[LanderPoke]

The history is correct, but the pieces are there to have a decent offense. Svboda BLOWS and sawvel is too stupid to make a change. Sawvel is a moron. Not suited to be a HC. I’m done with that clown. If you are too stupid to play the right players in the right position ( the foundation of coaching) then you should not be a coach. At the two most important position , RB and QB, he assessed his talent dramatically wrong. How can he be trusted with any lesser task? Geez

 

[OrediggerPoke]

This post misses that Svoboda would be more successful in a Bohl offense. At least he wouldn’t be throwing pick 6s with these telegraphed out patterns. Without those turnovers, we beat an awful San Diego State. And for damn sure Bohl isn’t running shotgun on 1st and goal from the 2, WTF!!!

Sawvel’s problem is that he thinks he can fit a square peg in a round hole. This whole ‘offense’ is set up for failure by not adapting to the personnel.

 

[bladerunnr]

Brown dropped a short pass yesterday that most 4 year olds would catch. Pelissier had a DB breathe on him and it interfered with his ability to catch a pass. We simply have not had receivers who can make adjustments or fight for passes in traffic. They always lose the fight or misplay it. In fairness, why would a receiver come to a school where he's going to run block 95 percent of the time? Some of it has to be coaching. If Joe Tiller was coaching this group, I'm pretty sure they would be far more productive. Combine mediocre talent with awful coaching and it gets you pick 6's, sacks, and dropped passes. That's why when Bohl retired, I was hoping we would go completely outside the program and find someone who could coach offense. Instead, we decide that we wanted continuity for a program that has won 0 conference championships. The fact that Tom Burman still has a job tells you that the higher ups don't give a f@@K.

 

[PorkerPoke]

I agree with much of the sentiment about the receivers and how easy it is in pointing out individual miscues.

I really wonder if our opponents actually had to respect the offense if it was an overall better performing unit especially at QB and WR. Bohl had 6'7" TE's he rarely used inside the red zone because he didn't have a QB that could dependably complete the pass. On the other hand he was often asking the QB to complete a 3rd and goal from the 13 after an illegal motion penalty and 2 A gap rushes into 9 defenders after having the ball 1st and goal inside the 5. Don't forget Bohl's QB's threw some pick 6's on short little out passes to lose games. That painful stretch in 2021 included pick 6's or point scoring TO's deep in Wyoming territory.

The whole point is under Bohl Wyoming exceeded 400 yards on average total offense last in 2016 with the next biggest output in 2021 where the total was 374 padded mainly by playing 3 MAC teams where defense is an afterthought.

The emphasis on run dominant was not proficient enough to win most "big" games and the non-existent passing component was crucial to the dismal outcomes of winnable games. I really don't know how much the WR/TE's really were incapable or if they so routinely ran simple routes such as a Bohl favorite 5 yards past the line of scrimmage, turn around and catch the ball and be tackled when 6 yards was needed for a first down.

Nevada and New Mexico have completely retooled their offenses in just one season under new coaches in 2024 so it proves it is not a 5 year process. I am so tired of "defense wins games". Well it does, except when the offense is so impotent it cannot score points.

I am not a big donor but am not afraid to approach Burman when I see him. I have spoken diplomatically with Burman in person at games away from UW and written emails regarding the failure to focus on improving the offense in a manner that complimented the quality of the program in becoming competitive for a MWC championship. Not that a peon like me has any sway, but despite Burman giving the "I agree" lip service, he obviously never held that fire under Bohl's ass because Wyoming continues to compete for the least productive offense not only in the MWC, but in the entire FBS. A couple of years ago, I told Burman at a bowl game my concern is if the offense is not improved and the program become as competitive as USU has done through a number of coaching changes in short order, Wyoming might be seeing itself begging the CUSA to accept it as a member. That's another topic that has been debated and if we had been perennial competitors such as SDSU, BSU, AFA and USU in football would Wyoming be looked at any different as a valuable conference member.

My position is there is enough talent out there in the country to put together something much better than the steaming pile of dog excrement the Bohl regime (Sawvel, the Bohl son and most of the staff is part of that regime) has implemented over the past few years. This offense and efforts to do whatever it is they are trying to do including this year has been in the making as the retool from the Sean Chambers era for 4 years now.

#3 FCS Montana St with the despised offensive coordinator from Wyoming completely wiped Idaho out on a national ESPN2 broadcast last night. The first thing Vigen did when he got to MSU was recruit a local HS kid that was a gamer and started him quickly after pushing aside the NC State transfer. Maybe the commit Sawvel has from Gillette is the real deal, but we are unlikely to see him set foot on the field for another 2-3 years at the rate this regime pursues implementation of improved play and if the feeling that the other important component - WR's - are not recruited it will be for naught. Our other "anemic" OC Tim Polasek has NDSU buzzing along at 444 ypg and he just fell short of beating Colorado in Boulder which would have NDSU unbeaten this year.

I am absolutely convinced Bohl has had capable OC's on staff but refused to let them do anything other than project build around the A gap play using players with limited FBS capabilities. I don't see the abysmal offense at either of those programs with those OC's now the head coaches running the show. If Wyoming had the starting offense from either MSU or NDSU we could be talking at least 4-2 and maybe better with the rest of the current team as is. I will state this - Svoboda and many of the feature Wyoming offensive players would probably not be starters at any top 25 FCS program. You can go down the food chain to the bottom of the Big Sky or SWAC to find teams where many of our players would fit the best.

Simply put - the Wyoming offense has been BAD for 8 consecutive years and the Wyoming faithful is very fortunate to have at least enjoyed the positive side of .500 ball which is why Bohl never had to answer to the critics because excrement sandwiches is what's for dinner with this regime. As much as I like and respect Bohl for keeping this program competitive, I resent the decision to refuse to recruit the athletes needed to produce yardage and scores. Those types of players have come to Wyoming before and if they are willing to play at much smaller budget FBS and FCS programs with little access to national media broadcasts, it clearly says the lack of offense at Wyoming is by the intentional design of the regime.

 

[doreno5]

I wrote elsewhere that I have come around to believing Peasley was a heck of lot better than I thought. Even Bohl admitted that Peasley would call out protection and change plays at the line often. Svoboda simply doesn't process quickly and as a result is very often telegraphing where the pass is supposed to go before the ball is hiked

 

[307bball]

Bohl's problems are Bohl's problems and in the past...the blame for the issues with this team should not be deflected from Sawvell. Nobody is confusing Bohl with an offensive genius but Sawvell somehow has made things worse.

 

[Outlaw Arthur Morgan]

This post misses that Svoboda would be more successful in a Bohl offense. At least he wouldn’t be throwing pick 6s with these telegraphed out patterns. Without those turnovers, we beat an awful San Diego State. And for damn sure Bohl isn’t running shotgun on 1st and goal from the 2, WTF!!!

Sawvel’s problem is that he thinks he can fit a square peg in a round hole. This whole ‘offense’ is set up for failure by not adapting to the personnel.

I agree. If he wanted any sort of consistency, he would have started recruiting for this offense and looking at the portal for transfers and make a transition. Instead, he is blowing up the offense like Bohl blew up the Christensen offense.