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After thinking about it for a day

LanderPoke

LanderPoke

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Fire Sawvel . This is the worst Wyoming team I’ve seen in my lifetime. The fact he is unwilling to try a change at QB says he is a moron and doesn’t care to even try to win.

The guy is a LOSER. Hey, Jay, resign.
 
What I am lost on is why so many folks believe a QB change is going to change much. I’ve actually never seen a worse scheme for personnel than this.

I don’t care who is under center but our only hope to keep games close and maybe pull off some wins is to completely abandon the offense, line up under center with a fullback and multiple tight ends, bleed clock and run a power scheme. But what we are going to see is this same offense that is probably very similar to what we would have expected from a Dave Christensen freshman scout team.
 
My son made the comment that the BYU QB was throwing passes to a spot, before the receivers were making cuts. Completed passes. Svaboda telegraphs everything. There isn’t timing patterns. And when he sees an open recover it’s late, with no touch. Overthrown, or not even close to the receiver. I think trying Anderson doesn’t hurt. We’re not getting anywhere with 17. He needs to change numbers.

I know one thing. I’m not spending another $500 bucks to go watch in person.
 
Sawvel has to be cut loose at the end of the year. I don’t care if the team pulls off a miracle against CSU.

Not only has this been the worst UW football team I’ve seen in my lifetime, but Sawvel’s performance has been antithetical to the expectations Burman outlined when he was hired. He was supposed to ‘take the next step’. Instead, we’ve taken a giant leap backwards.

Burman loses all credibility if he hangs onto this guy for another season.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
What I am lost on is why so many folks believe a QB change is going to change much. I’ve actually never seen a worse scheme for personnel than this.

I don’t care who is under center but our only hope to keep games close and maybe pull off some wins is to completely abandon the offense, line up under center with a fullback and multiple tight ends, bleed clock and run a power scheme. But what we are going to see is this same offense that is probably very similar to what we would have expected from a Dave Christensen freshman scout team.
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I’m increasingly in this camp. I think the issues are myriad - starting with our horrific offensive and defensive lines. Fire them all. Start fresh. We may lose players, but at this point, who really cares?

I am not excited about another Burman hire though. We need to think entirely outside the current framework. No FCS coaches. No retreads from prior staffs. Go find our version of the UNLV dude.
 
LawPoke said:
I’m increasingly in this camp. I think the issues are myriad - starting with our horrific offensive and defensive lines. Fire them all. Start fresh. We may lose players, but at this point, who really cares?

I am not excited about another Burman hire though. We need to think entirely outside the current framework. No FCS coaches. No retreads from prior staffs. Go find our version of the UNLV dude.
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I would hire an old school philosophy coach who runs a very disciplined program and an offense not replicated much in current NCAA football. Maybe a I formation heavy scheme. Perhaps even some form of a triple option.

What we are running now is similar to offenses that some 80 percent of FBS teams run. So unless we have superior athletes, we aren’t going to pose matchup problems to any defense.
 
I should also expound on my thinking of bringing in a non-typical old school oriented coach . No matter whatever we do, if we develop really good players they are gone to the power programs. But if you develop players with certain strengths (such as running an option as a QB), they are only going to have limited landing spots if they were to enter the portal. So you can actually build a cohesive team with the approach (at least of offense) without the fear of losing everyone every year to the portal.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
I should also expound on my thinking of bringing in a non-typical old school oriented coach . No matter whatever we do, if we develop really good players they are gone to the power programs. But if you develop players with certain strengths (such as running an option as a QB), they are only going to have limited landing spots if they were to enter the portal. So you can actually build a cohesive team with the approach (at least of offense) without the fear of losing everyone every year to the portal.
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At least you’ve thought about it for 10 minutes. Not sure even 10 minutes went into the Sawvel promotion.
 
LanderPoke said:
Fire Sawvel . This is the worst Wyoming team I’ve seen in my lifetime. The fact he is unwilling to try a change at QB says he is a moron and doesn’t care to even try to win.

The guy is a LOSER. Hey, Jay, resign.
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Not that I am condoning the play to this point - but I don't think this is worse than the Koenning years.
 
evilpoke said:
Not that I am condoning the play to this point - but I don't think this is worse than the Koenning years.
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By all measurables, this is a worse start than Koenning. Wyoming was 7-4 and left out of a bowl game in 1999 and when VK was Defensive Coordinator. Koenning was promoted in 2000.

Koenning was given perhaps the toughest two game stretch ever to open a season at Wyoming. Here are Koenning’s first 3 games as HC in 2000:
1) @Auburn. Loss 21-35.
2) @Texas A&M. Loss 3-51.
3) Central Michigan. Win 31-10.

After that start, things continued to go downhill and Wyoming finished 1-10. I’m struggling to find a win on the schedule right now; although I think the defense will lead us to 1 somewhere.
 
ESPN's matchup predictor currently for the rest of the season (no idea how accurate these have been historically)
at UNT 29.3%
AFA 42.6%
SDSU 53.4%
at SJST 13.6%
USU 49.0%
at UNM 36.6%
at CSU 37.1%
BSU 8.3%
at WSU 5.3%
 
Options for schools like us are and will be one of or a combination of the following:

1) FCS winners (Glenn, Bohl)

2) Inexperienced, but successful mid-level FBS coordinators (Dimel, Christensen, Tiller)

3) Disgraced/unsuccessful/near retirement former P5 HCs

4) Internal promotions (Sawvel, Koenning)

Barry Odom was a 2, then a 4, then a 3, and back to a 2 before he got to UNLV.

I think we as fans tend to envision a massive pool of perfect candidates to fill our coaching vacancies and that the right choice is always safe and obvious.

I'm seeing a no-FCS demand, I'm also seeing a demand for an old-school power running offense that no one runs anymore. How many FBS-only Craig Bohl-like coordinators do you think exist? If they do, are they even available? Are they even interested? Are other schools interested?

Maybe there is someone that fits that description, but I think there will be imperfections and high levels of risk/unknown with ANYONE we find to coach this program.
 
You start with reassigning some AD personnel. BB is in the tank. Football is a disaster. It's just time. We need a "freshening" within the AD.

Start there and start planning for Dec. Step 1: secure buyout funds. Man, I wish someone had foresight to pay at the bottom level of the mwc with an incentive laden contract centered on results...hmmm
 
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