and not North Dakota. When you ask most people what comes to mind when you think of North Dakota they draw a big blank white space.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
Love Bohl, but...
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If we would quit scheduling P5 teams the morale of the fans and program would be much better. I'll take a 14 point win over a sun belt team over a P5 ass kicking ant damn day.
watching the sheep come back on arkansas and fresno not a state compete with Minnesota...
good mwc teams beat middling p5 teams....we haven't been close
you have to be good on both sides of the ball. the offense is pretty hard to watch, we look like a d2 school on offense, and frankly there is no hope of being good on that side of the ball. the playbook was opened up for this game and it was still terrible. gonna be a frustrating conference year....
good mwc teams beat middling p5 teams....we haven't been close
you have to be good on both sides of the ball. the offense is pretty hard to watch, we look like a d2 school on offense, and frankly there is no hope of being good on that side of the ball. the playbook was opened up for this game and it was still terrible. gonna be a frustrating conference year....
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Geez...2011BisonAlumni has a good point. What is going on here??? I don't know what keeps Wyoming teams from breaking through...do you?ZapPoke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:52 pmand not North Dakota. When you ask most people what comes to mind when you think of North Dakota they draw a big blank white space.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
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Ha when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
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To be honest, we've tried but haven't competed in the modern era of football. Certainly a bowl game here or there but not competing at a high level.
Yes, we played in a MWC championship but several of Glenn's teams would have competed if not won.
Yes, we played in a MWC championship but several of Glenn's teams would have competed if not won.
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Well ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
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Yeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
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NDSU over the last 8 years would finish in the bottom half of the MWC. Just like when Boise St. came over from the WAC they thought they would dominate the MWC and it took them awhile before they even won a championship. NDSU is nowhere near Boise St's level now or at that time.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
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ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:04 pm To be honest, we've tried but haven't competed in the modern era of football. Certainly a bowl game here or there but not competing at a high level.
Yes, we played in a MWC championship but several of Glenn's teams would have competed if not won.
Sorry, but that's just poop. The only Glenn team that would have been even remotely competitive was the 2006 team. That was the only Glenn team that won more than 3 conference games in his 6 years.
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I'm confused ... is your contention that NDSU is an under-achieving program? The question of whether or not Bohl is a good coach isn't in doubt...he's got a pedigree and still hasn't gotten it done at WYO (Still a chance here for that to change).ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:13 pmYeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
NDSU past 8 years:
14-1
12-2
13-2
15-1
15-0
14-1
14-1
9-5
If your trying to convince me that what is going on at NDSU is a fluke you are sadly misinformed....and I'm beginning to think that what is happening at Wyoming is not a fluke either
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Sorry man, but MWC is poop now compared to then. Glenn through 5 years is better than Bohl. Bohl has arguably the worst team in WYO and FBS history.bladerunnr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:21 pmragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:04 pm To be honest, we've tried but haven't competed in the modern era of football. Certainly a bowl game here or there but not competing at a high level.
Yes, we played in a MWC championship but several of Glenn's teams would have competed if not won.
Sorry, but that's just poop. The only Glenn team that would have been even remotely competitive was the 2006 team. That was the only Glenn team that won more than 3 conference games in his 6 years.
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NDSU in MWC would be equal to or less than WYO in MWC.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:22 pmI'm confused ... is your contention that NDSU is an under-achieving program? The question of whether or not Bohl is a good coach isn't in doubt...he's got a pedigree and still hasn't gotten it done at WYO (Still a chance here for that to change).ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:13 pmYeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
NDSU past 8 years:
14-1
12-2
13-2
15-1
15-0
14-1
14-1
9-5
If your trying to convince me that what is going on at NDSU is a fluke you are sadly misinformed....and I'm beginning to think that what is happening at Wyoming is not a fluke either
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+1 Exactly. It isn't that I think Wyoming is anything better than NDSU but NDSU would be at best what Wyoming is in the MWC or worse with Bohl's system or their new coach which is basically the same thing.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:26 pmNDSU in MWC would be equal to or less than WYO in MWC.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:22 pmI'm confused ... is your contention that NDSU is an under-achieving program? The question of whether or not Bohl is a good coach isn't in doubt...he's got a pedigree and still hasn't gotten it done at WYO (Still a chance here for that to change).ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:13 pmYeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
NDSU past 8 years:
14-1
12-2
13-2
15-1
15-0
14-1
14-1
9-5
If your trying to convince me that what is going on at NDSU is a fluke you are sadly misinformed....and I'm beginning to think that what is happening at Wyoming is not a fluke either
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Well...that argument will forever be academic...I think they'd have been pretty tough and envy their success.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:26 pmNDSU in MWC would be equal to or less than WYO in MWC.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:22 pmI'm confused ... is your contention that NDSU is an under-achieving program? The question of whether or not Bohl is a good coach isn't in doubt...he's got a pedigree and still hasn't gotten it done at WYO (Still a chance here for that to change).ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:13 pmYeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
NDSU past 8 years:
14-1
12-2
13-2
15-1
15-0
14-1
14-1
9-5
If your trying to convince me that what is going on at NDSU is a fluke you are sadly misinformed....and I'm beginning to think that what is happening at Wyoming is not a fluke either
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Look at their losses in the last 8 years, man.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:30 pmWell...that argument will forever be academic...I think they'd have been pretty tough and envy their success.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:26 pmNDSU in MWC would be equal to or less than WYO in MWC.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:22 pmI'm confused ... is your contention that NDSU is an under-achieving program? The question of whether or not Bohl is a good coach isn't in doubt...he's got a pedigree and still hasn't gotten it done at WYO (Still a chance here for that to change).ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:13 pmYeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
NDSU past 8 years:
14-1
12-2
13-2
15-1
15-0
14-1
14-1
9-5
If your trying to convince me that what is going on at NDSU is a fluke you are sadly misinformed....and I'm beginning to think that what is happening at Wyoming is not a fluke either
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BSU Since joining MWC:seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:15 pmNDSU over the last 8 years would finish in the bottom half of the MWC. Just like when Boise St. came over from the WAC they thought they would dominate the MWC and it took them awhile before they even won a championship. NDSU is nowhere near Boise St's level now or at that time.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
12-1 , 2nd place
11-2 , T-1st
8-5, 2nd (mountain)
12-2 , 1st
9-4 , 2nd (mountain)
10-3, T-1st (mountain)
11-3, 1st
Since BSU has joined MWC they the road to a conference championship has gone through Boise.
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That may be true but None of Glenn's teams were very good, especially on offense. Two years ago, we beat San Diego State and Boise state - that Bohl team was better than any of Glenn's teams. Now, I'm not going to defend Bohl's record. His first 2 years were "Vic-esque". It's obvious we're not very good now. But Bohl is going to be here for at least this year and 2 more no matter what we do.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:24 pmSorry man, but MWC is poop now compared to then. Glenn through 5 years is better than Bohl. Bohl has arguably the worst team in WYO and FBS history.bladerunnr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:21 pmragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:04 pm To be honest, we've tried but haven't competed in the modern era of football. Certainly a bowl game here or there but not competing at a high level.
Yes, we played in a MWC championship but several of Glenn's teams would have competed if not won.
Sorry, but that's just poop. The only Glenn team that would have been even remotely competitive was the 2006 team. That was the only Glenn team that won more than 3 conference games in his 6 years.
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I don't know what you want me to take away from the 13 losses in 8 years...pretty damned impressive. if Those exact teams were to have competed in the MWC during those years OF COURSE they would not have dominated. They would would have been tough as hell and disciplined teams that would not have beaten themselves. More than you can say for some of the pokes teams during that time. (God i hate looking at the terrible results wyo has posted in recent history)ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:33 pmLook at their losses in the last 8 years, man.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:30 pmWell...that argument will forever be academic...I think they'd have been pretty tough and envy their success.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:26 pmNDSU in MWC would be equal to or less than WYO in MWC.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:22 pmI'm confused ... is your contention that NDSU is an under-achieving program? The question of whether or not Bohl is a good coach isn't in doubt...he's got a pedigree and still hasn't gotten it done at WYO (Still a chance here for that to change).ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:13 pmYeah he is. Look at NDSU losses over those years.307bball wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pmWell ... He's not wrong.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pmHa when is the last time Wyoming beat a P5 school? Terrible or not? NDSU doesn’t even play an FBS schedule, yet they have beat 5 this decade alone.seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:49 pmHe beat horrible P5 teams at NDSU. He only beat one half decent team there. The rest were really bad teams. NDSU would have a losing record if they played an FBS schedule. He also lost to Wyoming while at NDSU.2011BisonAlumni wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:41 pmYou are right this isn’t NDSU....NDSU beats P5 schools on a regular basis.
He beat P5 schools at NDSU using that exact same offense.
It’s just that you are Wyoming....
You put any NDSU team over the last 8 years I’m the MW and they are a contender if not a front runner.
NDSU past 8 years:
14-1
12-2
13-2
15-1
15-0
14-1
14-1
9-5
If your trying to convince me that what is going on at NDSU is a fluke you are sadly misinformed....and I'm beginning to think that what is happening at Wyoming is not a fluke either
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Lol. Getting too long to quote people. No doubt, 1 of Bohl's teams would have beat 1 of Glenn's. Other than that, Glenn holds. Look at NDSU losses and compare the teams they lost to against fbs teams.
Take the homer glasses off. I like Bohl but reality is that Glenn was better through 5 years. Record? Ya ya ya... SOS? Not even in the same stratosphere.
Take the homer glasses off. I like Bohl but reality is that Glenn was better through 5 years. Record? Ya ya ya... SOS? Not even in the same stratosphere.