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5 Things I Think: Wyoming vs Wofford [WyoNation Blog]
- ZapPoke
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Yep, you pretty much hit the nail on the thumb. All the Pokes need is an O line that can block, an RB, Receivers who can catch a ball, a D line that can put pressure on the QB, and corners that can cover.
other than that they are Ok
other than that they are Ok
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Whoah! You called out Vigen! Fanboys on your ass in 3..2....
Expect an onslaught of "ball control", "oh, I guess you want an air raid offense", "last year everyone complained and we were just short of a ny6 invite", or some other nonsense.
Largely agree with your good assessment despite the fanboys.
Expect an onslaught of "ball control", "oh, I guess you want an air raid offense", "last year everyone complained and we were just short of a ny6 invite", or some other nonsense.
Largely agree with your good assessment despite the fanboys.
While I'm not impressed with the oline, keep in mind that anemic, vanilla play calling makes it harder on the line, too. It's tough to block 7 and 8 in the box on run plays, and rather difficult for a young inexperienced line to protect a good pass rush.
- BackHarlowRoad
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I see waaaaay more complaints about Vigen than I do "fanboys" defending him.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:38 pm Whoah! You called out Vigen! Fanboys on your ass in 3..2....
Expect an onslaught of "ball control", "oh, I guess you want an air raid offense", "last year everyone complained and we were just short of a ny6 invite", or some other nonsense.
Largely agree with your good assessment despite the fanboys.
As in, there are maybe 1 or 2.
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Agreed. I've seen no one that thinks Vigen is the next Lombardi or is even a top coordinator in college football.BackHarlowRoad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:03 amI see waaaaay more complaints about Vigen than I do "fanboys" defending him.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:38 pm Whoah! You called out Vigen! Fanboys on your ass in 3..2....
Expect an onslaught of "ball control", "oh, I guess you want an air raid offense", "last year everyone complained and we were just short of a ny6 invite", or some other nonsense.
Largely agree with your good assessment despite the fanboys.
As in, there are maybe 1 or 2.
I've seen a few reasonable posters that recognize that any coordinator would struggle from a gameplan standpoint with the personnel we currently have on offense. Whether Vigen should be blamed for the recruiting that has led to an offense full of underclassmen and a lack of receiver talent, that is a separate question entirely.
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I refuse to believe we have a lack of receiver talent.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:20 am I've seen a few reasonable posters that recognize that any coordinator would struggle from a gameplan standpoint with the personnel we currently have on offense. Whether Vigen should be blamed for the recruiting that has led to an offense full of underclassmen and a lack of receiver talent, that is a separate question entirely.
Austin Conway: 3 Star recruit (who we got lucky with)
Rocket Junior: 3 Star recruit
Jared Scott: 3 Star recruit
John Okwoli: 3 Star recruit
Yes, star ratings aren't everything, but it generally means they've looked very solid at a high school level, at the very least.
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Top? I'd say the debate is centered around adequate and there are more than a few that think he's adequate, some even think good.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:20 am Agreed. I've seen no one that thinks Vigen is the next Lombardi or is even a top coordinator in college football.
- LanderPoke
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+1 It almost takes talent to negate any talent you may have on the offenseive side of the ball. Astounding, really.Asmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:18 pmI refuse to believe we have a lack of receiver talent.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:20 am I've seen a few reasonable posters that recognize that any coordinator would struggle from a gameplan standpoint with the personnel we currently have on offense. Whether Vigen should be blamed for the recruiting that has led to an offense full of underclassmen and a lack of receiver talent, that is a separate question entirely.
Austin Conway: 3 Star recruit (who we got lucky with)
Rocket Junior: 3 Star recruit
Jared Scott: 3 Star recruit
John Okwoli: 3 Star recruit
Yes, star ratings aren't everything, but it generally means they've looked very solid at a high school level, at the very least.
- 'PokeForLife
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I don't think Conway is really good at what people are trying to make his focal point. He has fine hands and can catch the ball downfield, but I think we should keep him downfield. He never gets anything but 10-15 yards of lateral running and jukes when we get him the ball out in space within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage.Asmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:18 pmI refuse to believe we have a lack of receiver talent.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:20 am I've seen a few reasonable posters that recognize that any coordinator would struggle from a gameplan standpoint with the personnel we currently have on offense. Whether Vigen should be blamed for the recruiting that has led to an offense full of underclassmen and a lack of receiver talent, that is a separate question entirely.
Austin Conway: 3 Star recruit (who we got lucky with)
Rocket Junior: 3 Star recruit
Jared Scott: 3 Star recruit
John Okwoli: 3 Star recruit
Yes, star ratings aren't everything, but it generally means they've looked very solid at a high school level, at the very least.
Everyone's opinion on if he should still be ahead of the others on the depth chart? Just curious.
- laxwyo
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He also goes down really easy.'PokeForLife wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:38 pmI've said it before, and I'll say it again: I don't think Conway is really good at what people are trying to make his focal point. He has fine hands and can catch the ball downfield, but I think we should keep him downfield. He never gets anything but 10-15 yards of lateral running and jukes when we get him the ball out in space within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage.Asmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:18 pmI refuse to believe we have a lack of receiver talent.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:20 am I've seen a few reasonable posters that recognize that any coordinator would struggle from a gameplan standpoint with the personnel we currently have on offense. Whether Vigen should be blamed for the recruiting that has led to an offense full of underclassmen and a lack of receiver talent, that is a separate question entirely.
Austin Conway: 3 Star recruit (who we got lucky with)
Rocket Junior: 3 Star recruit
Jared Scott: 3 Star recruit
John Okwoli: 3 Star recruit
Yes, star ratings aren't everything, but it generally means they've looked very solid at a high school level, at the very least.
Everyone's opinion on if he should still be ahead of the others on the depth chart? Just curious.
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- 'PokeForLife
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Well this game actually answered my question for me. Conway is definitely our best receiver, but also showed that he really should just be kept 10 yards down field. Good hands.laxwyo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:18 pmHe also goes down really easy.'PokeForLife wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:38 pmI've said it before, and I'll say it again: I don't think Conway is really good at what people are trying to make his focal point. He has fine hands and can catch the ball downfield, but I think we should keep him downfield. He never gets anything but 10-15 yards of lateral running and jukes when we get him the ball out in space within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage.Asmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:18 pmI refuse to believe we have a lack of receiver talent.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:20 am I've seen a few reasonable posters that recognize that any coordinator would struggle from a gameplan standpoint with the personnel we currently have on offense. Whether Vigen should be blamed for the recruiting that has led to an offense full of underclassmen and a lack of receiver talent, that is a separate question entirely.
Austin Conway: 3 Star recruit (who we got lucky with)
Rocket Junior: 3 Star recruit
Jared Scott: 3 Star recruit
John Okwoli: 3 Star recruit
Yes, star ratings aren't everything, but it generally means they've looked very solid at a high school level, at the very least.
Everyone's opinion on if he should still be ahead of the others on the depth chart? Just curious.