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Who will it be ?

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armchaircoach

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Let the speculation begin—who will it be, looks like it has been a done deal for awhile as we already had a company in place to help find the new coach. Don’t know why they needed it I think that all of us could find someone and we would charge TB a little less than the $35,000 that the Athletic department will pay their search firm.

-Positives for a New Coach-
• We have a very solid group of players coming back
• Great facilities
• Good Tradition
• We are not that far away from being a good program—we are not dead like SDSU & Washington and Maybe Syracuse, these programs will take a while.

-Negatives for a New Coach-
• Conservative state that will likely not pay top money—but it will be good
• Still will be a tough place to recruit (Joe was right about this—its not a slam on Laramie or Wyoming, just the fact that so many players are more comfortable in large population centers where they grew up)
• Weather
• Next year opening with Texas (just kidding, most will love this)
• Tom Burman—new coaches in basketball, football, wrestling, tennis, volleyball, soccer in his short tenure here. How much time will the new guy get? I don’t have anything against TB but these are the facts.


So my guess as to the next head coach

Ted Gilmore – Nebraska Assistant (been here before) Already reported he will interview Tuesday with TB

Jeff Bower – Former coach at Southern Mississippi (looked at the job before)

Ed Warinner—Kansas offensive Coordinator (once coached at Air Force)
 
My guess: Ted Gilmore. He will be great head coach. as the pay....rumors have it that they are willing to pay 750K as a base salary....add that to incentive pay and it may total over 1mill.

What happens if the university waits to long to hire someone? What should the realistic time frame be?
 
I think we need to look at some coordinators.. Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Florida.. we need someone that's familiar with the Rocky Mountains and will have success recruiting here against the other MWC and WAC schools. We also need an offensive mind at the helm. Someone who can put some pts on the board, because there's no way to keep up in the MWC without an offensive minded coach.

I wouldn't like Barnett because of his baggage. Gilmore.. I'm a little skeptical.. he's been a coach for a while, but has he ever been an OC? I don't know much of him. I want a name in here though.
 
I don't like Barnett's baggage either but I think it would be worth his recruiting ability in this area. That's the key here in Laramie, be able to get players here! I also think Barnett would be able to bring in a top notch staff to surround him with and develop our players. That's where Glenn went wrong, he surrounded himself with sub-par assistant coach's. He didn't have D1 ties to get the type of coach's we need here.

That's why I also like Tommy Bowden, he has always built an incredible coaching staff around him. Many of his assistants from that undefeated Tulane team went on be head coach's. He had a good staff at Clemson, but something just wasn't clicking. I'd still be willing to take the chance he could build a winner here.

Guys like Gilmore and Christensen may be good a candidate but do they have that Big name status to be able to pull in some good assistants to Laramie?
 
Cornpoke said:
I don't like Barnett's baggage either but I think it would be worth his recruiting ability in this area. That's the key here in Laramie, be able to get players here! I also think Barnett would be able to bring in a top notch staff to surround him with and develop our players. That's where Glenn went wrong, he surrounded himself with sub-par assistant coach's. He didn't have D1 ties to get the type of coach's we need here.

That's why I also like Tommy Bowden, he has always built an incredible coaching staff around him. Many of his assistants from that undefeated Tulane team went on be head coach's. He had a good staff at Clemson, but something just wasn't clicking. I'd still be willing to take the chance he could build a winner here.

Guys like Gilmore and Christensen may be good a candidate but do they have that Big name status to be able to pull in some good assistants to Laramie?
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I like Bowden as well. But, I doubt we could afford him or get him here. If you look at Gilmore, he is acclaimed to be a top notch recruiter. Dont know about Christensen. My first pick would be Bowden. That would be HUGE!!! And, he has ties with other coaches to get great OCC teams scheduled, which is a bonus (just look at Schoyers pathetic OCC schedule!). I honestly think we have a coach hired by friday.
 
one-smooth-poke said:
Titlest,

How long do we wait? Do search for a "name" and miss an opportunity to hire a good coach?
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Well, it's a tricky subject.. I'd say we've got 2-3 weeks to interview and hire a coach. I think hiring a guy within a few days is a bit brash, and we've still got coaches preparing for regular season games, with bowl games starting in a month.. so I think we need to hire before bowl season (mid-December) starts.. that'll give us time to interview a few guys, make a decision and get them to Laramie.

Why so high on Gilmore? I don't know much about him, but what makes him a great hire? Fill me in, I need educatin'.
 
MrTitleist said:
one-smooth-poke said:
Titlest,

How long do we wait? Do search for a "name" and miss an opportunity to hire a good coach?
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Well, it's a tricky subject.. I'd say we've got 2-3 weeks to interview and hire a coach. I think hiring a guy within a few days is a bit brash, and we've still got coaches preparing for regular season games, with bowl games starting in a month.. so I think we need to hire before bowl season (mid-December) starts.. that'll give us time to interview a few guys, make a decision and get them to Laramie.

Why so high on Gilmore? I don't know much about him, but what makes him a great hire? Fill me in, I need educatin'.
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Well, he had a great 2 years at Wyoming. He has coached at several places and has been involved in very successful programs, so he knows how to win. He is reveared at a great recruiter and has helped receivers at other programs become record breakers. That is something we havent had hear in a while. Since he has been at other schools he has made contacts and that helps with recruiting. He has had an impact as a position coach at every school. As far as I know, he is the only position coach that is also an assistant head coach (at nebraska). He is familiar with the wyoming area since he played and coached here. He also has ties to Tiller. Even though I am not huge on Tiller, I am sure Tiller would gladly help him out in a coaching search. He is an up and comer and the university can afford him. I dont think he will immediatly use wyoming as a stepping stone and would stay here for a while.
 
3rd time trying to post this, getting pissed, so here is the short version.

As a fan I don't want pay to be a factor. last thing i want is a discount coach. if a lesser name is the best coach then great but if a big name is going to help us get to a bowl game faster then lets pay what it takes to get him in here, we need the best.

AFA bowl last yr,
CSU bowl this yr,
SOMEONE BETTER TAKE US TO A BOWL NEXT YEAR.

2006 NM Bowl officials and Aric Goodman cost Glenn his job this yr, we go bowling that yr like we should have and Glenn is still at UW.
 
What I like is he is nebraskas recruiting coordinator
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=113276&Q_SEASON=2005
 
ESPN.com is reporting that John L Smith and Dave Christensen from Missouri are early candidates.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3721657
 
MrTitleist said:
one-smooth-poke said:
Titlest,

How long do we wait? Do search for a "name" and miss an opportunity to hire a good coach?
Click to expand...

Well, it's a tricky subject.. I'd say we've got 2-3 weeks to interview and hire a coach. I think hiring a guy within a few days is a bit brash, and we've still got coaches preparing for regular season games, with bowl games starting in a month.. so I think we need to hire before bowl season (mid-December) starts.. that'll give us time to interview a few guys, make a decision and get them to Laramie.

Why so high on Gilmore? I don't know much about him, but what makes him a great hire? Fill me in, I need educatin'.
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Gotta be smart though, the hire needs to be soon enough that he can recruit some talent for next season, last I checked Wyoming is losing a RB who rushed for 1,300+ yards this season and some highlight defensive players, you always want the new coach to get "his" players in.
 
I have tried to find the profile of Gilmore on the University of Nebraska website like I did the one for Christianson at the University of Missouri, but so far I have been unsuccessful. You never really know how an assistant coach will turn out as a head coach, but Gilmore sounds like a good fit since he is the recruiting coordinator at Nebraska and is an offensive minded coach with quite a bit of experience and has been in this area most of his career. I think he would be very loyal to UW since he played here and coached here before.
 
WYCowboy said:
I have tried to find the profile of Gilmore on the University of Nebraska website like I did the one for Christianson at the University of Missouri, but so far I have been unsuccessful. You never really know how an assistant coach will turn out as a head coach, but Gilmore sounds like a good fit since he is the recruiting coordinator at Nebraska and is an offensive minded coach with quite a bit of experience and has been in this area most of his career. I think he would be very loyal to UW since he played here and coached here before.
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http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=113276&Q_SEASON=2005
 
Not Ted Gilmore he is not ready!!! He has never been an offensive coordinator and has only been a recruiting coordinator for 07 & 08. Not enough experience. Nebraska's record the last two years 6-6 and this year 7-4 with one game left. Not exactly tearing it up. Barnett would be okay for the short term but does he really want to stay in Laramie? He will use it to get a higher profile job. I like what I see with Missouri coach Dave Christensen but he has not ties to UW or so another spring board job. Who knows what Burman is thinking and hopefully he doesn't go the friend route like he did with Schroyer. John L. Smith might be nice but he is a basket case did you see when he hit himself in the face after a loss at Michigan State? Do we really want that?

I suggest someone who has ties to the state or who has been looking for a head coaching job for a while who will hopefully want to stay. Why not go after some big names and if they turn it down we can fall back on the names mentioned above. I suggest Mike Leech, Norm Chow, Dan Mullen (OC Florida), Steve Sarkisian (OC USC), Bryan Harsin (OC Boise State a bit of a reach here), Gregg Brandon (HC at Bowling Green), or the best option from the top Missouri coach Dave Christensen.
 
I too need some education on why everyone is on the Ted Gilmore bandwagon. I know he was a good receiver while at Wyoming and has been a fine receivers coach and a recruiting coordinator, but not the experience that I would think would be required of a head coach at this level. I personally think that hiring Ted Gilmore would be a roll of the dice. I'd be intersted in the other names on TB's list.
 
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