There you have it....

[J-Rod]

Wyoming will play @ national powerhouse Oregon AND @ Rose Bowl champ Michigan State in 2014. No doubt, the 2014 football schedule will be one of the toughest Wyoming has ever had.

 

[Hayduke]

Florida Atlantic and Montana/ wins.

Oregon and Michigan State, no. Get out without injuries, beat the spread and do not get embarrassed.

Conference, home. Air Force, win. Boise State, I'm thinking upset with new staffs on both sides of the field. San Jose State, win. Utah State, possible upset, but I'll say no.

Road games. Colorado State, win. (Yeah, my CSU pals think I'm nuts...but I don't see their D getting any better, offensive line issues.) Fresno State, no. Hawaii, win. New Mexico, win.

8-4 or 7-5.. New Mexico Bowl.

 

[J-Rod]

Florida Atlantic and Montana/ wins.

Oregon and Michigan State, no. Get out without injuries, beat the spread and do not get embarrassed.

Conference, home. Air Force, win. Boise State, I'm thinking upset with new staffs on both sides of the field. San Jose State, win. Utah State, possible upset, but I'll say no.

Road games. Colorado State, win. (Yeah, my CSU pals think I'm nuts...but I don't see their D getting any better, offensive line issues.) Fresno State, no. Hawaii, win. New Mexico, win.

8-4 or 7-5.. New Mexico Bowl.

Don't hog the kool aid all to yourself now. :lol:

Realistically, next season will be an uphill battle for bowl eligibility. The team couldn't do it with easier schedules the last two seasons, you can bet it will be even harder with a tough schedule. Bohl will try to turn Wyoming's glaring weaknesses into its strengths. That will be more difficult to do than people would like to let on.....

JMO...but this will take time. 2014 schedule doesn't look kind to say the least.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Wyoming will play @ national powerhouse Oregon AND @ Rose Bowl champ Michigan State in 2014. No doubt, the 2014 football schedule will be one of the toughest Wyoming has ever had.

Lol...What should the spread be for those 2 combined games?
I think Wyo loses by 70-80 combined.

 

[J-Rod]

Lol...What should the spread be for those 2 combined games?
I think Wyo loses by 70-80 combined.

lol Michigan State will win big, but they aren't the RUTS type. 35-7 type game.

Oregon straight up ruins people in September annually. That one could end up breaking some UW records. I don't want to make a prediction.

 

[Dutchnation]

We will lose both of them. Aand I believe we will be hard pressed to get Bohl elligible (see what I did there). But I am telling all of you right now. We. Will. Be. Better. We will be disciplined and we will be physical. We have talent.

 

[J-Rod]

We will lose both of them. Aand I believe we will be hard pressed to get Bohl elligible (see what I did there). But I am telling all of you right now. We. Will. Be. Better. We will be disciplined and we will be physical. We have talent.

lol Then apparently you and I actually do agree. I think Wyoming will show signs of being a more disciplined and physical team, it just won't show up in the win column just yet. I expect 2014 to look similar to McElwain's first season at CSU. Groundwork will be laid down for better things ahead, but to expect the finished product in year one is a little optimistic.

 

[BeaverPoke]

I think we go bowling, barely. But I think it happens.

We will win a game we shouldn't.

And I've said this before J-Rod but the difference between Bohls first year and McElwains first, is that Bohl has talent to work with. Granted a lot of it just went to the NFL draft, but the cupboard isn't bare. McElwain had nothing.
Bohls first year should be like McElwains 2nd.
8-6 type year.

 

[J-Rod]

I think we go bowling, barely. But I think it happens.

We will win a game we shouldn't.

And I've said this before J-Rod but the difference between Bohls first year and McElwains first, is that Bohl has talent to work with. Granted a lot of it just went to the NFL draft, but the cupboard isn't bare. McElwain had nothing.
Bohls first year should be like McElwains 2nd.
8-6 type year.

Sorry BP.....I watched the BSU, USU, FSU games....you cannot convince me Wyoming doesn't have a talent issue. All three flat out whipped Wyoming in the trenches. DOMINATED. UW has some good WRs and RB as well as others, I'll give you that....but the Cowboy O-Line and D-Line were as bad any in the MWC. That will take time to rebuild, and that's why I think Wyoming will have a McElwain year one type season. He struggled with the same thing....issues in the trenches. That is tough to fix overnight.

Like I said, Bohl is trying to turn Wyoming's glaring weakness into its strength. Very tough task. Good individual talent, but depth is miles off at the most important positions: the lines.

Bohl will begin with better skill position players than McElwain did. But McElwain started off with better O-Line and D-Line players.

 

[Hayduke]

Florida Atlantic and Montana/ wins.

Oregon and Michigan State, no. Get out without injuries, beat the spread and do not get embarrassed.

Conference, home. Air Force, win. Boise State, I'm thinking upset with new staffs on both sides of the field. San Jose State, win. Utah State, possible upset, but I'll say no.

Road games. Colorado State, win. (Yeah, my CSU pals think I'm nuts...but I don't see their D getting any better, offensive line issues.) Fresno State, no. Hawaii, win. New Mexico, win.

8-4 or 7-5.. New Mexico Bowl.

Don't hog the kool aid all to yourself now. :lol:

Realistically, next season will be an uphill battle for bowl eligibility. The team couldn't do it with easier schedules the last two seasons, you can bet it will be even harder with a tough schedule. Bohl will try to turn Wyoming's glaring weaknesses into its strengths. That will be more difficult to do than people would like to let on.....

JMO...but this will take time. 2014 schedule doesn't look kind to say the least.

Yeah, you're right.

But, I am the eternal optimist!

 

[JimmyDimes]

I think we go bowling, barely. But I think it happens.

We will win a game we shouldn't.

And I've said this before J-Rod but the difference between Bohls first year and McElwains first, is that Bohl has talent to work with. Granted a lot of it just went to the NFL draft, but the cupboard isn't bare. McElwain had nothing.
Bohls first year should be like McElwains 2nd.
8-6 type year.

Sorry BP.....I watched the BSU, USU, FSU games....you cannot convince me Wyoming doesn't have a talent issue. All three flat out whipped Wyoming in the trenches. DOMINATED. UW has some good WRs and RB as well as others, I'll give you that....but the Cowboy O-Line and D-Line were as bad any in the MWC. That will take time to rebuild, and that's why I think Wyoming will have a McElwain year one type season. He struggled with the same thing....issues in the trenches. That is tough to fix overnight.

Like I said, Bohl is trying to turn Wyoming's glaring weakness into its strength. Very tough task. Good individual talent, but depth is miles off at the most important positions: the lines.

Bohl will begin with better skill position players than McElwain did. But McElwain started off with better O-Line and D-Line players.

Did you watch the Nebraska game? What changed between the early season match-up where the Poke hung tough and racked up more yards against the Husker than any other team ever? The difference was the season was lost and DC lost the team by the time they faced Fresno, Boise, and USU. The season was lost after a 3 hour rain delay. Don't know what happened, but motivation is a huge factor when it comes to late season games.

I'm not going to be convinced USU has more talent than us. What they did have was better coaching. Coaching is what makes or breaks a season...just a much as talent. Wyoming is going to have 3 players drafted, but that didn't win us more games.

Not going to try to convince anyone, but this coaching change and the number of starters we have returning (most in the MWC) could make this transition pain free and may even make the upcoming season something many Poke fans have looked forward to since the Paul Roach days.

 

[J-Rod]

Not going to try to convince anyone, but this coaching change and the number of starters we have returning (most in the MWC) could make this transition pain free and may even make the upcoming season something many Poke fans have looked forward to since the Paul Roach days.

I actually did a count the other day, and Boise has more returning starters than Wyoming. So close, but not the absolute most. UNLV loses the most by a mile.

You'd have to admit though, Wyoming may not be losing a ton of players, but they are losing some important players. Smith, Herron, Mertens, and arguably Strong aren't exactly chumps who will be easily replaced. Like I said in another thread, only God knows what would have happened to Wyoming in some games without Brett Smith. He single-handily saved games a few times.

JMO, but I think some fans underestimate the impact of losing Smith. Thompson has potential, but he hasn't played ball since 2012. He'll have a learning curve himself in 2014.

 

[NowherePoke]

Not going to try to convince anyone, but this coaching change and the number of starters we have returning (most in the MWC) could make this transition pain free and may even make the upcoming season something many Poke fans have looked forward to since the Paul Roach days.

I actually did a count the other day, and Boise has more returning starters than Wyoming. So close, but not the absolute most. UNLV loses the most by a mile.

You'd have to admit though, Wyoming may not be losing a ton of players, but they are losing some important players. Smith, Herron, Mertens, and arguably Strong aren't exactly chumps who will be easily replaced. Like I said in another thread, only God knows what would have happened to Wyoming in some games without Brett Smith. He single-handily saved games a few times.

JMO, but I think some fans underestimate the impact of losing Smith. Thompson has potential, but he hasn't played ball since 2012. He'll have a learning curve himself in 2014.

It's just like Brandon Ewing. The team was dissapointing (CBI), but pretty decent during his senior season (so much better than the pathetic display by the FB team in Smith's final season), but several posters thought that Wyoming would be able to maintain or improve and that it might even help by having a "true" point guard (I hate that term. As if having someone that can actually get to the basket is a bad thing, we haven't had that since). What happened? The two worst UW hoops years in the modern era.

To me, I see parallels in some suggesting that Thompson may even be a "better fit" for Bohl's system. Umm, no. You know who is a better fit? The QB projected to be drafted in the top 4 rounds.

Obviously we aren't keeping DC like we kept Schroyer, but like Ewing, Smith covered up a lot of other issues. Primarily our horrible offensive line. Even completely independent NFL talent evaluators and commentators that review tape of Smith comment on how awful our O-Line was. Can't fix that overnight by stealing a couple of FCS recruits to sign in February.

No concern about losing Mertens or Strong. Those units were equally awful with them on the field as they were when they weren't there. Herron will be missed primarily because of the complete absence of other players capable of stretching the field with speed.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

I'm with Nowhere for the most part. We have been terrible on both lines for a long time. Those two units have been the main reason for our lack of success, IMO. You can go a looooong way in the college game with good lines and average play at other positions.

There is some hope that the guys have skill but not coached effectively. At this point, I'm not holding out hope. How many linemen did Glenn have trying to address this issue? Consistent problem in WYO football.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

Wyoming will play @ national powerhouse Oregon AND @ Rose Bowl champ Michigan State in 2014. No doubt, the 2014 football schedule will be one of the toughest Wyoming has ever had.

I was thinking about the schedule also after watching Michigan State....Oh my gosh, I can only imagine what Coach Bohl was thinking knowing that 2 of his first 3 opponents are Oregon and Michigan State.

For a number of years now, I have made predictions, and they all turned into a joke because of how the season has gone, so I am not making an actual prediction at this time. There still is a lot to see, and that is who stays on the team and how does Spring Ball go and hopefully there aren't any really bad injuries in the offseason, etc., etc.. But I will say that there is plenty of history to show that brand new coaches that come into teams with a good talent level (yes, I would put Wyoming in this category) have had some really good success their first year. I was watching the Fiesta Bowl last night and thinking Wyoming could hopefully be there in a few years....but I digress.

About next season, I know that we will need to establish a new team toughness and I think that there is the talent on the team to do it now. I don't think that it will be out of possibilities for Wyoming to go to Albuquerque next year for the New Mexico Bowl, but I do hope that we move beyond the New Mexico Bowl shortly afterwards. It appeared that Christensen's goal was the New Mexico Bowl and I hope that Coach Bohl has conference championships in his sights and hopefully some really nice bowls. I am one that feels that there is a really good core of talent on the team now and that a coach like Coach Bohl will be able to do something with it. I am also one that while I would have loved to see Brett Smith stay, I am not at all concerned with Jason Thompson directing the team and I feel especially encouraged because he will have 3 years in Bohl system and by the time he leaves Laramie, I feel that Jason Thompson will have done some really great things. I am encouraged and excited about the future of Wyoming football, and very curious now to see who will be Wyoming's next DC.

 

[JimmyDimes]

Wyoming will play @ national powerhouse Oregon AND @ Rose Bowl champ Michigan State in 2014. No doubt, the 2014 football schedule will be one of the toughest Wyoming has ever had.

For a number of years now, I have made predictions, and they all turned into a joke because of how the season has gone, so I am not making an actual prediction at this time. There still is a lot to see, and that is who stays on the team and how does Spring Ball go and hopefully there aren't any really bad injuries in the offseason, etc., etc.. But I will say that there is plenty of history to show that brand new coaches that come into teams with a good talent level (yes, I would put Wyoming in this category) have had some really good success their first year. I was watching the Fiesta Bowl last night and thinking Wyoming could hopefully be there in a few years....but I digress.

In his first year, DC won a bowl with Joe Glenn's players and a true freshman QB. It took Joe Glenn two year to get to a bowl...but he was working with Vic's recruits and in a much stronger conference. Bohl has the resume, and the talent is there (somewhat), to make noise in his first year as coach.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Wyoming will play @ national powerhouse Oregon AND @ Rose Bowl champ Michigan State in 2014. No doubt, the 2014 football schedule will be one of the toughest Wyoming has ever had.

For a number of years now, I have made predictions, and they all turned into a joke because of how the season has gone, so I am not making an actual prediction at this time. There still is a lot to see, and that is who stays on the team and how does Spring Ball go and hopefully there aren't any really bad injuries in the offseason, etc., etc.. But I will say that there is plenty of history to show that brand new coaches that come into teams with a good talent level (yes, I would put Wyoming in this category) have had some really good success their first year. I was watching the Fiesta Bowl last night and thinking Wyoming could hopefully be there in a few years....but I digress.

In his first year, DC won a bowl with Joe Glenn's players and a true freshman QB. It took Joe Glenn two year to get to a bowl...but he was working with Vic's recruits and in a much stronger conference. Bohl has the resume, and the talent is there (somewhat), to make noise in his first year as coach.

But arguably the most important positions on both sides of the ball are our biggest weaknesses, the lines. Unless some major improvement is done there in the off season, the guys in the backfield are going to be abused by the other team's linemen again.

 

[JimmyDimes]

Wyoming will play @ national powerhouse Oregon AND @ Rose Bowl champ Michigan State in 2014. No doubt, the 2014 football schedule will be one of the toughest Wyoming has ever had.

For a number of years now, I have made predictions, and they all turned into a joke because of how the season has gone, so I am not making an actual prediction at this time. There still is a lot to see, and that is who stays on the team and how does Spring Ball go and hopefully there aren't any really bad injuries in the offseason, etc., etc.. But I will say that there is plenty of history to show that brand new coaches that come into teams with a good talent level (yes, I would put Wyoming in this category) have had some really good success their first year. I was watching the Fiesta Bowl last night and thinking Wyoming could hopefully be there in a few years....but I digress.

In his first year, DC won a bowl with Joe Glenn's players and a true freshman QB. It took Joe Glenn two year to get to a bowl...but he was working with Vic's recruits and in a much stronger conference. Bohl has the resume, and the talent is there (somewhat), to make noise in his first year as coach.

But arguably the most important positions on both sides of the ball are our biggest weaknesses, the lines. Unless some major improvement is done there in the off season, the guys in the backfield are going to be abused by the other team's linemen again.

The lines were great early in the season....especially against Nebraska. There was a lot of talk about how the lines looked legit. What happened? I'm going with lack of coaching and a head coach who lost his team. Sometimes it is about buying in. The OL is only losing one starter.....I think the talent is there (maybe not to win a conference title just yet, but good enough to complete) as well as the DL. Returning some big bodies and getting a big DT off his redshirt year. Plus, 1st team all MWC DE Eddie Yarborough will only get better.

I'm not talking conference titles...but a team that will compete. And, if this team comes to compete, we will make a bowl in Bohl's first year.

 

[lakesbison]

with Bohl's defense you guys can hit 7-5 8-4

 

[mwc fan]

I heard that Mertens was granted a 6th year. Hope it was an accurate report, that would mean Mertens, Yarbrough, Olive and Puletasi would be our front four. Not bad at all.