The state fast tracked the AA project.

[Cowboy Junky]

It sounds like that project might start sooner rather than later.

Also, a 100 million dollar engineering facility? Is that the Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics lab?

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/021a33fad3504511a5d1bbbfcf3c9713/WY--UW-Budget/

 

[stymeman]

gonna be interesting to see what changes are going to be made

 

[fromolwyoming]

It sounds like that project might start sooner rather than later.

Also, a 100 million dollar engineering facility? Is that the Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics lab?

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/021a33fad3504511a5d1bbbfcf3c9713/WY--UW-Budget/

Any idea of where they'll put it? Campus is already getting pretty full.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

It sounds like that project might start sooner rather than later.

Also, a 100 million dollar engineering facility? Is that the Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics lab?

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/021a33fad3504511a5d1bbbfcf3c9713/WY--UW-Budget/

Any idea of where they'll put it? Campus is already getting pretty full.

The information is somewhere in the following page of links(the long range development plan). I want to say it's going to be over by the engineering building, but I'm not positive of that, especially with the lack of open ground over there. I do know that the area around the Business Incubator is earmarked for research facility construction, so that could be it.

Anyways, if you have some time, I know the information is in this list. It took me a couple three hours to read through one night so it might be hard to find.

http://www.uwyo.edu/facilitiesplanning/lrdp/supporting-documents.html

 

[stymeman]

It sounds like that project might start sooner rather than later.

Also, a 100 million dollar engineering facility? Is that the Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics lab?

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/021a33fad3504511a5d1bbbfcf3c9713/WY--UW-Budget/

Any idea of where they'll put it? Campus is already getting pretty full.

UW is kinda a landlocked campus, gonna be interesting, but I do love the changes and such that have happened over there, keeping up with the century!!!

 

[McPeachy]

Any idea of where they'll put it? Campus is already getting pretty full.

There are a ton of options.

UW prefers to grow north, there has been dialogue that 15th street won't be a major artery in Laramie in the future, and that UW will buy up all the property on the north side of Lewis (south side of Bradley), taking up all of Lewis street as well. So if you have no 15th street, and no Lewis, you just added 6 full city blocks and a ton of extra space for parking, bus routes, etc., around Lewis steet and 15th street.

UW also already owns all the land between Willett & Harney, and all the land north of Harney from 22nd' to about 15th (more like 17th if it went "through"). If you look at a satellite view of Laramie, you will see UW could theoretically pick up the entire campus (as it now exsists) and relocate it between Armory Road & Harney Street, between 19th and 27th (approx).

 

[Cowboy Junky]

I found an old article that says they are planning on putting in the neighborhood of 10th and 11th, North of campus.

Also, I found another article that talks about plans to build a smaller version of the supercomputer on campus.

In addition, they are planning on renovating the engineering building. Those are all seperate projects.

http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2012-03-28/university_of_wyoming_to_build_campus_supercomputer.html

 

[Cowboy Junky]

It sounds like that project might start sooner rather than later.

Also, a 100 million dollar engineering facility? Is that the Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics lab?

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/021a33fad3504511a5d1bbbfcf3c9713/WY--UW-Budget/

Any idea of where they'll put it? Campus is already getting pretty full.

UW is kinda a landlocked campus, gonna be interesting, but I do love the changes and such that have happened over there, keeping up with the century!!!

The long range development plan details UW's plans to purchase areas around the current west campus. The streets directly to the north of the engineering building are being bought up. I guess that's great for anybody with property there, but no so good if you don't want to sell.

 

[WyoExpat]

I guess that's great for anybody with property there, but no so good if you don't want to sell.

Is the University even going to pay what a private party that would likely build more apartment space would? If not, it might not be a great deal for even those who would sell otherwise.

On a different note, am I the only Poke athletics fan who is somewhat bothered by the propriety of the legislature directly funding athletic facilities at the university in light of the budget cuts elsewhere? Whether the AA and other facilities need the work or not, it seems to me that drawing a line between the Capitol Building in Cheyenne directly to the Athletic Department at U.W. might be out of line.

 

[McPeachy]

On a different note, am I the only Poke athletics fan who is somewhat bothered by the propriety of the legislature directly funding athletic facilities at the university in light of the budget cuts elsewhere? Whether the AA and other facilities need the work or not, it seems to me that drawing a line between the Capitol Building in Cheyenne directly to the Athletic Department at U.W. might be out of line.

Interesting. Off the top of my head...

Athletics really is the front porch of the university. Successful athletics, grows enrollment. Growing enrollment = successful everything else. I used the example a while back of UNLV in this situation. Had UNLV not pumped every nickel into hoops in the late 70's and 80's, they would still be a 6,000 student commuter school located in the desert that nobody would give a shit about.

 

[WyoExpat]

Had UNLV not pumped every nickel into hoops in the late 70's and 80's, they would still be a 6,000 student commuter school located in the desert that nobody would give a shit about.

You might be right, but I suspect that the fact that Vegas was a serious boomtown from about the mid-1980s on had something to do with enrollment growth at UNLV. Besides, isn't it still essentially a commuter school along the same lines as San Diego State?

 

[hithere]

Had UNLV not pumped every nickel into hoops in the late 70's and 80's, they would still be a 6,000 student commuter school located in the desert that nobody would give a shit about.

You might be right, but I suspect that the fact that Vegas was a serious boomtown from about the mid-1980s on had something to do with enrollment growth at UNLV. Besides, isn't it still essentially a commuter school along the same lines as San Diego State?

He's absolutely right; UNLV is just one example of many. It's known as the Flutie Effect.

 

[WyoExpat]

Had UNLV not pumped every nickel into hoops in the late 70's and 80's, they would still be a 6,000 student commuter school located in the desert that nobody would give a shit about.

You might be right, but I suspect that the fact that Vegas was a serious boomtown from about the mid-1980s on had something to do with enrollment growth at UNLV. Besides, isn't it still essentially a commuter school along the same lines as San Diego State?

He's absolutely right; UNLV is just one example of many. It's known as the Flutie Effect.

I do not doubt that he is partially correct. I just doubt that the school's growth would have been as pronounced if Vegas had been shrinking like the Eastern Plains of Colorado and Wyoming instead of being in the fastest-growing county in the whole country during the same timeframe.

One of the things that experts were discussing during the big conference realignment circus of a couple years ago was the demographic problems that the Big Ten states are facing compared to those that encompass the SEC. It is an imperfect comparison, but Las Vegas was not just any ordenary college town during the past 20 years.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

He's absolutely right; UNLV is just one example of many. It's known as the Flutie Effect.

Exactly...after Doug Flutie's Hail Mary against Miami in 1984, applications to Boston College went up almost 20% the following year and another 15% the year after. It's a hot topic in most higher education and athletic administration classes.

 

[WyoExpat]

He's absolutely right; UNLV is just one example of many. It's known as the Flutie Effect.

Exactly...after Doug Flutie's Hail Mary against Miami in 1984, applications to Boston College went up almost 20% the following year and another 15% the year after. It's a hot topic in most higher education and athletic administration classes.

Since this is the offseason and news is slow, I will drag this out a little longer. I have always heard about this statistic. I believe that a similar thing happened to Northwestern the spring following their appearance in the Rose Bowl under Gary Barnett.

In those classes, is there any discussion about whether there is an increase in the number of qualified applicants? Or is there just a whole bunch more applications from students who would not meet the minimum standards for admission to these schools that are known for being fairly selective in their admissions? It is not like these are schools like Wyoming was when I was a student in that UW took all comers from in-state high schools. BTW, I am eternally thankful that they had to let me in, so this is not a criticism of our own previous admission standards.

 

[laxwyo]

I would think that Boise's rep has been helped a ton by a winning football team. Who knew they were the 3rd best school in idaho. Kids are going to BSU instead of many much finer institutions.

 

[McPeachy]

Since this is the offseason and news is slow, I will drag this out a little longer. I have always heard about this statistic. I believe that a similar thing happened to Northwestern the spring following their appearance in the Rose Bowl under Gary Barnett.

In those classes, is there any discussion about whether there is an increase in the number of qualified applicants? Or is there just a whole bunch more applications from students who would not meet the minimum standards for admission to these schools that are known for being fairly selective in their admissions? It is not like these are schools like Wyoming was when I was a student in that UW took all comers from in-state high schools. BTW, I am eternally thankful that they had to let me in, so this is not a criticism of our own previous admission standards.

I think this is a great topic for discussion.

I am not involved in the class at all, but I have an extensive marketing & business background. I should be teaching it. LOL. I have another example, that was cited back in the SLC Tribune a year or so ago:

When Utah was announced to join the PAC 10, applications for enrollment that following semester (Fall of 2011) went up 17%. Current enrollment is just over 31,000 (total). Oh, and if you check enrollment (not applications - ENROLLMENT) at Utah in 2002, (Pre BCS bowls / Urban Meyer / 10 years ago), versus current, you would see an actual enrollment increase of around 20%, which equates to roughly 6,000 additional students.

6,000 additional students in 10 years time. Just in-state, with fees, at UW, that has to equate to what, an additional 28+ million in revenue per year? (6000 x 12 credit hours x 100+ per credit hour x 2 semesters) + (6000 x 1200 fees x 2 semesters). That can't be right...just a BCS caliber winning football program (that makes money also) could bring that much to a university?

 

[WyoExpat]

Since this is the offseason and news is slow, I will drag this out a little longer. I have always heard about this statistic. I believe that a similar thing happened to Northwestern the spring following their appearance in the Rose Bowl under Gary Barnett.

In those classes, is there any discussion about whether there is an increase in the number of qualified applicants? Or is there just a whole bunch more applications from students who would not meet the minimum standards for admission to these schools that are known for being fairly selective in their admissions? It is not like these are schools like Wyoming was when I was a student in that UW took all comers from in-state high schools. BTW, I am eternally thankful that they had to let me in, so this is not a criticism of our own previous admission standards.

I think this is a great topic for discussion.

I am not involved in the class at all, but I have an extensive marketing & business background. I should be teaching it. LOL. I have another example, that was cited back in the SLC Tribune a year or so ago:

When Utah was announced to join the PAC 10, applications for enrollment that following semester (Fall of 2011) went up 17%. Current enrollment is just over 31,000 (total). Oh, and if you check enrollment (not applications - ENROLLMENT) at Utah in 2002, (Pre BCS bowls / Urban Meyer / 10 years ago), versus current, you would see an actual enrollment increase of around 20%, which equates to roughly 6,000 additional students.

6,000 additional students in 10 years time. Just in-state, with fees, at UW, that has to equate to what, an additional 28+ million in revenue per year? (6000 x 12 credit hours x 100+ per credit hour x 2 semesters) + (6000 x 1200 fees x 2 semesters). That can't be right...just a BCS caliber winning football program (that makes money also) could bring that much to a university?

I am not surprised that joining the Pac 12 moved the needle for Utah. I think they expected it to. I expect that the Big Ten will also help Nebraska.

Like UNLV, I wonder how much of Utah's enrollment growth over the past few years is attributable to population growth or other economic and social factors that have been pushing up enrollments at public colleges and universities irrespective of football team performance or conference affiliation? I doubt that Urban Meyer, BCS bowl games, and the Pac 10/12 invitation can take credit for the entire bump in applications and/or enrollment at Utah over the past few years.

I do think that something like a Final Four appearance would make a bigger percentabge difference for UW's enrollment than it did for Utah once you strip away all of the other factors that likely affect enrollment growth.

Personally, I think the thing that would make the biggest difference for UW's enrollment growth rate would be significant non-student population and job growth in Laramie. The fact that Laramie hasn't grown as fast as most other major college towns has to be limiting UW's appeal as a place to go to school. Think about things such as part-time jobs and internships that make a difference for graduates trying to break into a career. I do not know how much modernized sports facilities will impact that issue.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

I read something about the change in population growth if Laramie recently. The article had Laramie and Gillette in the top 10 for fastest growing small towns in America.

I agree though. The most benefitial thing for UW would be a growth in the population of Laramie that isn't tied to the University.

 

[laxwyo]

The SLC valley is growing a ton which can contribute to the bump. It also doesn't hurt that they've been to an NCAA finals fairly recently and won a couple of BCS bowls.

UW would definitely benefit from Laramie growing. I can't even think of any industry in Laramie.