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So close! Again..

BeaverPoke

BeaverPoke

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I do think that the team will learn from these losses, whether it is later on in this season, or next year.

Our issue isn't that Nance is missing the buzzer beater, our issue is that in the 10 minutes leading up, we aren't making it a tie game. It's not smart to assume a team can hit EVERY game winner especially when Wyo has been in those situations as many times as they have. Wyo needs to erase that 2-6 point deficit earlier in the game, then take the lead, so when the final shot comes, the OTHER team has to hit a buzzer beater.

Maybe this team can start to gel and figure it out towards the end of the season with 3 of the 4 final games being at home, and they can make a Tourney run.

A couple wins in the MWC and the NIT would not be a bad thing, especially if Wyo could make a run in the NIT and host a few games.

You just get the feeling this team is giving these games away. They are very close to being an elite team.

If Wyo figures it out this season, whether it is the final stretch of MWC games, the MWC Tourney, or potentially the NIT, the team is going to be REAL good next year, assuming that if they DO figure it out, it isn't Granberry or Sobey that is the key factor.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I do think that the team will learn from these losses, whether it is later on in this season, or next year.

Our issue isn't that Nance is missing the buzzer beater, our issue is that in the 10 minutes leading up, we aren't making it a tie game. It's not smart to assume a team can hit EVERY game winner especially when Wyo has been in those situations as many times as they have. Wyo needs to erase that 2-6 point deficit earlier in the game, then take the lead, so when the final shot comes, the OTHER team has to hit a buzzer beater.

Maybe this team can start to gel and figure it out towards the end of the season with 3 of the 4 final games being at home, and they can make a Tourney run.

A couple wins in the MWC and the NIT would not be a bad thing, especially if Wyo could make a run in the NIT and host a few games.

You just get the feeling this team is giving these games away. They are very close to being an elite team.

If Wyo figures it out this season, whether it is the final stretch of MWC games, the MWC Tourney, or potentially the NIT, the team is going to be REAL good next year, assuming that if they DO figure it out, it isn't Granberry or Sobey that is the key factor.
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No NIT this year. CBI or a MWCT run to the NCAA. Projected RPI with a 12-6 MWC record is still just 77 which would be borderline for the NIT (Pokes were 83 and 73 the last two years, left out both times) and that would require going 7-1 the rest of the way which isn't realistic. Pokes RPI right now is 106. Lowest of Shyatt's tenure.

Realistic goal: 10-8, 1-1 in MWCT, 20-13. CBI bid. Win a road game or two (no home games due to AA renovations) and find a backup post player for next season this spring.
 
BeaverPoke said:
Our issue isn't that Nance is missing the buzzer beater, our issue is that in the 10 minutes leading up, we aren't making it a tie game.
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To go a tad bit deeper, our issue is that we give up too many possessions. We almost always have a better shooting percentage than our opponent. We take very good shots for the most part, we control the tempo, and we play very good defense. Usually those things win games.

BUT against UNM we gave up way too many offensive rebounds, leading to tons of extra Lobo shots and free throws. Tonight, it was turnovers. UNLV had close to 10 more FGA than us and can be directly attributed to turnovers.
 
I was under the impression the renovations would start when the season is done, for the girls and the guys, or at least when they know there are no more home games. For example if both teams make the Big Dance, then they start ASAP. But if the girls make the NIT and the guys make the CBI, then they will wait as UW would likely host those games.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I was under the impression the renovations would start when the season is done, for the girls and the guys, or at least when they know there are no more home games. For example if both teams make the Big Dance, then they start ASAP. But if the girls make the NIT and the guys make the CBI, then they will wait as UW would likely host those games.
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Nah. There were some articles about it a couple of weeks ago. No postseason home games for either squad. That's to ensure it is ready for next year.
 
NowherePoke said:
BeaverPoke said:
I was under the impression the renovations would start when the season is done, for the girls and the guys, or at least when they know there are no more home games. For example if both teams make the Big Dance, then they start ASAP. But if the girls make the NIT and the guys make the CBI, then they will wait as UW would likely host those games.
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Nah. There were some articles about it a couple of weeks ago. No postseason home games for either squad. That's to ensure it is ready for next year.
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Ya the athletics department has already said they will not be hosting postseason games with the AA remodel.
 
x3

Anyway can we kick the goddamn ball out to Riley at the last couple seconds? Two games in a row he would have been the hero
 
castlerocker said:
Doin the same thing and expecting difference results is not going to get it done.

I think Shyatt is thinking too much and he can't see the reality of the situation.
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The reality of the situation is we don't have the depth of big men down low that can come in and be competitive down the stretch - and that really showed last night and against NM.
 
Wyoming isn't far from being a really good team. If any of the kids that are red shirting this year and 1-2 of the incoming freshman can give solid minutes... The cowboys will win some games.

We have got to be one of the thinnest and least talented teams in the conference yet we should have beat everyone we've played. It truly goes to show you how great Nance is to be carrying this team like he has.
 
We are pretty close, but there are some very specific things that I can point out that could really help.

1.)Our bench is really weak. For all the hope I have in Shyatt and his program and vision, that is one area that I still get really worried about, having depth on the team.

2.)Turnovers-I don't want to diss Adams too much because I think he is great and all, but sometimes I feel like for every great drive to the hoop he makes, he also has one possession where he'll drive right into 3 defenders and turn it over. Grabau and Sobey have also been turning it over late in tight games it feels like. With as slow-paced offense as we run, we can't afford to waste possessions that don't even result in a shot.

3.)3 point shooting- Grabau does pretty good, but if I'm an opposing team, I'm ok with literally any other member of the team shooting a 3 pointer, in fact, I'm even daring them to make it.

4.)Rebounds-I know that the lack of O Rebounds is by design, but I disagree with that philosophy. I also think we just need to get tougher on the boards on defense too, although I concede that this wasn't necessarily a factor in last night's game.

Thankfully our season has an easier finish than this 3 game stretch. We'll get a few more wins.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I do think that the team will learn from these losses
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I think the team has already learned. They learned that Shyatt is good at everything but the end-game.
It's Shyatt that need to learn from these losses.
 
If nance wasn't hurt, people here wouldn't be bitching...once he got hurt, he got very timid and didn't dominate like normal.
 
kdwrightuwyo said:
If nance wasn't hurt, people here wouldn't be bitching...once he got hurt, he got very timid and didn't dominate like normal.
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+1, we probably would have won with a healthy Nance IMO
 
I'm so tired of hearing the "least talented" and "no depth" BS.

Half the people that say we need another big are just regurgitating what everyone else has said, they don't even notice Derek Cookes play. And Granberrys.

We have plenty of good players, and we are very talented.

Don't tell me we don't have talent when Adams and Nance are likely to be All-MWC performers.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I'm so tired of hearing the "least talented" and "no depth" BS.

Half the people that say we need another big are just regurgitating what everyone else has said, they don't even notice Derek Cookes play. And Granberrys.

We have plenty of good players, and we are very talented.

Don't tell me we don't have talent when Adams and Nance are likely to be All-MWC performers.
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Yeah, we have some talent. Adams and Nance especially. We might be slightly less deep than other programs in the MWC, but not much. SDSU has 10 guys who play 10+ minutes, UNM has 8, we have 7.

If you compare our two bigs to UNM or SDSU, there isn't a ton of difference. UNLV, however, we don't compare. Cooke produces quite a bit considering he only plays 20 minutes a game. Why doesn't he get more minutes? Any ideas?
 
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