Shy's Wyoming numbers: it's staggering what he's been able

[Cowboy Junky]

to accomplish taking over two of the worst teams in Wyoming history(Joby Wrights thugs, and Heath Schroyers headless horsemen).

60-35 at Wyoming. He has five wins over top 25 teams. He owns the 3rd highest winning percentage in Wyoming history. He made the top 25 for the first time in 20 + years last season. Since he took over the team G.P.A. went from 1.8 to over 2.8.

Is Larry Shyatt the mysterious big Nigerian?

 

[stymeman]

I was apprehensive at 1st when we rehired him, but I think now he's the best fit at UW in many many years, looking forward to many many good and better things to to come in the future. Go Papa Shyatt

 

[BeaverPoke]

Cowboy Junky, change your stats to Top 25 not top 20, then you will be correct

But yes, it is amazing.
20 win seasons here in his first two seasons in year 2.
20 win seasons are something to be proud of in hoops. A benchmark of sorts.
Funny how DC hasn't beaten a Top 25 team yet (although he came close against Nebraska) but Shyatt in year one took down a Top 25 team.
This season, the Pokes are ALL Shyatt recruits.
People forget about Hankerson. Him, Cooke, and Nance JR's. The junior trio of juniors are going to provide great leadership, especially Nance.
We don't have any punk thugs on the team, we have good young men.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

Thanks. Edited for accuracy.

Hopefully we're starting to develop the depth to crank up the pressure a little bit. Some full court defense and the ability to break out and dunk on people would add an element of excitement to get some more asses in the seats.

 

[WyoBrandX]

Cowboy Junky, change your stats to Top 25 not top 20, then you will be correct

Funny how DC hasn't beaten a Top 25 team yet (although he came close against Nebraska) but Shyatt in year one took down a Top 25 team.
n.

Funny how your comparing basketball to football. Apples and Oranges man.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Cowboy Junky, change your stats to Top 25 not top 20, then you will be correct

Funny how DC hasn't beaten a Top 25 team yet (although he came close against Nebraska) but Shyatt in year one took down a Top 25 team.
n.

Funny how your comparing basketball to football. Apples and Oranges man.

Yeah apples and oranges I know, but still. Shyatt has turned the program around quicker than DC with football I think. But I'm pretty sure we all know that turning around basketball is quicker than football.
Hell, just look at SMU.

 

[castlerocker]

Increasing the team GPA and winning 5 games against top 25 teams are great accomplishments.

His winning percentage, however, is NOT STAGGERING. It's due to probably the softest schedule ever played at UW or possibly at any NCAA school.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

It's still pretty impressive when it's done with the mess left him by Joby Wright and Heath Schroyer. The scheduling could be better and is getting better. To be able to do it with 10 win teams from the year before and each time turn those teams into 20 win teams, with schedules built by the coach the year before, isn't a bad accomplishment.

 

[NowherePoke]

Increasing the team GPA and winning 5 games against top 25 teams are great accomplishments.

His winning percentage, however, is NOT STAGGERING. It's due to probably the softest schedule ever played at UW or possibly at any NCAA school.

His 97 team was great. Probably our best team of the last 25 years, but they got screwed out of a tourney invite. Better RPI than the 02 team during the regular season.

His record the last two years was certainly a partial function of an easy schedule. The Martinez thing really hurt, combined with other injuries. I think the Pokes were a legit bubble team when healthy/whole, which is pretty amazing in less than 2 years from absolute rock bottom.

Still, 4-12 is 4-12 and the Pokes need to prove it on the court before anyone takes us seriously.

 

[stymeman]

let's shoot for a 500 record in conf and that's a start to other great things, as I see us doing well in non conf again

 

[TSpoke]

Increasing the team GPA and winning 5 games against top 25 teams are great accomplishments.

His winning percentage, however, is NOT STAGGERING. It's due to probably the softest schedule ever played at UW or possibly at any NCAA school.

Everyone claims that our Schedule was so soft last year but we still won the games unlike schroyer with a much easier schedule. In fact it wasn't nearly as horrible last year as in the past.

According to ESPN RPI last year we had a 187 Nonconference SOS and in 11-12 our nonconference SOS was 290 and in 10-11, heaths last year it was 334.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI/groupId/44

So while our SOS isn't great its been getting better and 187 out of around 360? isn't too bad, half of teams are worse. I think we tend to overexagreate how bad our sos was last year. I see big things for this team this year...Bubble team at least.

 

[kansasCowboy]

It's still pretty impressive when it's done with the mess left him by Joby Wright and Heath Schroyer. The scheduling could be better and is getting better. To be able to do it with 10 win teams from the year before and each time turn those teams into 20 win teams, with schedules built by the coach the year before, isn't a bad accomplishment.

While I'm not disagreeing with you, I find it funny that we can say this about Shy, yet the wyo nation has to argue about the mess left for DC in football when he took over.

 

[NowherePoke]

It's still pretty impressive when it's done with the mess left him by Joby Wright and Heath Schroyer. The scheduling could be better and is getting better. To be able to do it with 10 win teams from the year before and each time turn those teams into 20 win teams, with schedules built by the coach the year before, isn't a bad accomplishment.

While I'm not disagreeing with you, I find it funny that we can say this about Shy, yet the wyo nation has to argue about the mess left for DC in football when he took over.

Because they aren't comparable. Some unbiased numbers:

Men's Basketball RPI:

Schroyer:

07-08: 227
08-09: 100
09-10: 228
10-11: 264

Shyatt:

11-12: 83
12-13: 73

In one year he improved the program dramatically.


Football Sagarin Ratings:

Glenn:

03: 83
04: 49
05: 82
06: 72
07: 85
08: 122


DC:

09: 82
10: 108
11: 84
12: 121
13: 85 (YTD)


I don't see dramatic progress. In DC's 4th year, we were just as bad as the year that got Glenn fired and overall the average sagarin is significantly lower for DC. DC hasn't yet notched a season as good as Glenn's top two years (04 and 06). The winning percentage has increased, but that's because the conference has gotten dramatically weaker. When SOS is factored in, it shows a better picture.

I am not advocating that we should have kept Glenn. His program had gotten stale and you can clearly see it was on the downswing at the end of his tenure, however he is not even remotely comparable to Schroyer or Koenning.